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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:20:46 GMT, "William Black"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>There used to be a chip shop in Scarborough that was in the Good Food
>Guide...
>
>Mainly because the chap who owned it also owned his own fishing cobble.
>
>Gone now though...
>
>The little cafe at the side only seated about six or eight people so you'd
>get puzzled looking couples in matching Arran sweaters with the guide
>sticking out of 'his' back pocket standing and about outside eating their
>dinner in the street for probably the first time in their adult lives.
>
>The place survived for two years after Michael Winner recommended it
>though...
Yes, I have fond memories of a dozen Irish and English places like
that. Most gone now too. I remember once walking out along a long,
long fog-cloaked pier and being astounded to find a pub at the end of
it, yellow light from the windows. The perfect moment, I thought. Of
course then I made the mistake of walking in to find the appalling
American sitcom "Diff'rent Strokes" blaring from the telly....
<[email protected]> wrote:
>There used to be a chip shop in Scarborough that was in the Good Food
>Guide...
>
>Mainly because the chap who owned it also owned his own fishing cobble.
>
>Gone now though...
>
>The little cafe at the side only seated about six or eight people so you'd
>get puzzled looking couples in matching Arran sweaters with the guide
>sticking out of 'his' back pocket standing and about outside eating their
>dinner in the street for probably the first time in their adult lives.
>
>The place survived for two years after Michael Winner recommended it
>though...
Yes, I have fond memories of a dozen Irish and English places like
that. Most gone now too. I remember once walking out along a long,
long fog-cloaked pier and being astounded to find a pub at the end of
it, yellow light from the windows. The perfect moment, I thought. Of
course then I made the mistake of walking in to find the appalling
American sitcom "Diff'rent Strokes" blaring from the telly....
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:37:00 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
> but I'm pretty sure
>that's got a lot more to do with planning regulations than any lack of
>interest in developers (very nice it is too)
Yes, I can think of one cold store that hasn't been redeveloped until
about six months ago, the rest is either developed or not going to be
developed further, hopefully ever.
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> but I'm pretty sure
>that's got a lot more to do with planning regulations than any lack of
>interest in developers (very nice it is too)
Yes, I can think of one cold store that hasn't been redeveloped until
about six months ago, the rest is either developed or not going to be
developed further, hopefully ever.
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:32:01 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >> Note the use of restros! Score 10 points.
>> >
>> >Manchester doesn't have any restros!
>>
>> whats the problem with the abbreviation?
>
>It's not much of an abbreviation really.
I type restro a lot (food group) restaurant seems a bit of an effort,
would you be happier with restau', looks odd to me. And it gives
Martin something pointless to post about.
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_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >> Note the use of restros! Score 10 points.
>> >
>> >Manchester doesn't have any restros!

>>
>> whats the problem with the abbreviation?
>
>It's not much of an abbreviation really.
I type restro a lot (food group) restaurant seems a bit of an effort,
would you be happier with restau', looks odd to me. And it gives
Martin something pointless to post about.
--
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:32:01 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> >> Note the use of restros! Score 10 points.
> >> >
> >> >Manchester doesn't have any restros!
> >>
> >> whats the problem with the abbreviation?
> >
> >It's not much of an abbreviation really.
>
> I type restro a lot (food group) restaurant seems a bit of an effort,
> would you be happier with restau', looks odd to me. And it gives
> Martin something pointless to post about.
You can type whatever you feel like. Restaurant isn't hard to type IME.
Maybe you should just post in SMS-style abbreviations and acronyms if
that's less effort?
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> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:32:01 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> >> Note the use of restros! Score 10 points.
> >> >
> >> >Manchester doesn't have any restros!

> >>
> >> whats the problem with the abbreviation?
> >
> >It's not much of an abbreviation really.
>
> I type restro a lot (food group) restaurant seems a bit of an effort,
> would you be happier with restau', looks odd to me. And it gives
> Martin something pointless to post about.
You can type whatever you feel like. Restaurant isn't hard to type IME.
Maybe you should just post in SMS-style abbreviations and acronyms if
that's less effort?

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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:35:35 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
wrote:
>The idea being that the average Briton is satisifed
>with more standard fare.
it would be odd if the majority ate in the few elite restros, wouldnt
it? But I agree the food enthusiasm of the last 20 or so years is top
down and hasnt reached the, er, common people fully. someone sensible
here said US is not much different.
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wrote:
>The idea being that the average Briton is satisifed
>with more standard fare.
it would be odd if the majority ate in the few elite restros, wouldnt
it? But I agree the food enthusiasm of the last 20 or so years is top
down and hasnt reached the, er, common people fully. someone sensible
here said US is not much different.
--
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:38:59 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> I haven't noticed it anywhere for ages.
I've only had it once but have adapted it to an "above average dish",
how long before a Michelin star chef does the same?
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_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> I haven't noticed it anywhere for ages.
I've only had it once but have adapted it to an "above average dish",
how long before a Michelin star chef does the same?
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:49:07 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:35:35 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>The idea being that the average Briton is satisifed
>>with more standard fare.
>
>it would be odd if the majority ate in the few elite restros, wouldnt
>it?
Yes, but I think people were saying UK standard fare hasn't altered
much over the years.
wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:35:35 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>The idea being that the average Briton is satisifed
>>with more standard fare.
>
>it would be odd if the majority ate in the few elite restros, wouldnt
>it?
Yes, but I think people were saying UK standard fare hasn't altered
much over the years.
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:38:59 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Viking <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:20:54 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:08:37 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>>mushy peas are old fashioned, regional and very not popular, but
>> >>>theres nothing particularly wrong with them. You will be lucky to fond
>> >>>them in restros.
>> >>
>> >>Not the kind of cuisine that will earn you Michelin stars.
>> >
>> >neither is a sandwich, not sure what your point is.
>>
>> Read the thread. We were saying that the new cuisine hasn't trickled
>> down to the avarage UK citizen yet. By way of agreeing, I said "Mushy
>> peas, anyone?" The idea being that the average Briton is satisifed
>> with more standard fare.
>
>What is the average briton, and what do they eat? It ain't mushy peas
>around here, for sure. I haven't noticed it anywhere for ages. That
>said, the average anyone is satisfied with 'more standard fare' IME.
I think the point DFM was making is that standard UK fare hasn't
changed much over the years.
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Viking <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:20:54 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:08:37 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>>mushy peas are old fashioned, regional and very not popular, but
>> >>>theres nothing particularly wrong with them. You will be lucky to fond
>> >>>them in restros.
>> >>
>> >>Not the kind of cuisine that will earn you Michelin stars.
>> >
>> >neither is a sandwich, not sure what your point is.
>>
>> Read the thread. We were saying that the new cuisine hasn't trickled
>> down to the avarage UK citizen yet. By way of agreeing, I said "Mushy
>> peas, anyone?" The idea being that the average Briton is satisifed
>> with more standard fare.
>
>What is the average briton, and what do they eat? It ain't mushy peas
>around here, for sure. I haven't noticed it anywhere for ages. That
>said, the average anyone is satisfied with 'more standard fare' IME.
I think the point DFM was making is that standard UK fare hasn't
changed much over the years.
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"Viking" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:20:46 GMT, "William Black"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>There used to be a chip shop in Scarborough that was in the Good Food
>>Guide...
>>
>>Mainly because the chap who owned it also owned his own fishing cobble.
>>
>>Gone now though...
>>
>>The little cafe at the side only seated about six or eight people so you'd
>>get puzzled looking couples in matching Arran sweaters with the guide
>>sticking out of 'his' back pocket standing and about outside eating their
>>dinner in the street for probably the first time in their adult lives.
>>
>>The place survived for two years after Michael Winner recommended it
>>though...
>
> Yes, I have fond memories of a dozen Irish and English places like
> that. Most gone now too. I remember once walking out along a long,
> long fog-cloaked pier and being astounded to find a pub at the end of
> it, yellow light from the windows. The perfect moment, I thought. Of
> course then I made the mistake of walking in to find the appalling
> American sitcom "Diff'rent Strokes" blaring from the telly....
The nice thing about living at the seaside is that new places are opening
constantly and the level of quality has gone up so much in recent years that
sometimes I'm spoilt for choice.
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
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> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:20:46 GMT, "William Black"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>There used to be a chip shop in Scarborough that was in the Good Food
>>Guide...
>>
>>Mainly because the chap who owned it also owned his own fishing cobble.
>>
>>Gone now though...
>>
>>The little cafe at the side only seated about six or eight people so you'd
>>get puzzled looking couples in matching Arran sweaters with the guide
>>sticking out of 'his' back pocket standing and about outside eating their
>>dinner in the street for probably the first time in their adult lives.
>>
>>The place survived for two years after Michael Winner recommended it
>>though...
>
> Yes, I have fond memories of a dozen Irish and English places like
> that. Most gone now too. I remember once walking out along a long,
> long fog-cloaked pier and being astounded to find a pub at the end of
> it, yellow light from the windows. The perfect moment, I thought. Of
> course then I made the mistake of walking in to find the appalling
> American sitcom "Diff'rent Strokes" blaring from the telly....
The nice thing about living at the seaside is that new places are opening
constantly and the level of quality has gone up so much in recent years that
sometimes I'm spoilt for choice.
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
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Viking <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:38:59 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Viking <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:20:54 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:08:37 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>mushy peas are old fashioned, regional and very not popular, but
> >> >>>theres nothing particularly wrong with them. You will be lucky to fond
> >> >>>them in restros.
> >> >>
> >> >>Not the kind of cuisine that will earn you Michelin stars.
> >> >
> >> >neither is a sandwich, not sure what your point is.
> >>
> >> Read the thread. We were saying that the new cuisine hasn't trickled
> >> down to the avarage UK citizen yet. By way of agreeing, I said "Mushy
> >> peas, anyone?" The idea being that the average Briton is satisifed
> >> with more standard fare.
> >
> >What is the average briton, and what do they eat? It ain't mushy peas
> >around here, for sure. I haven't noticed it anywhere for ages. That
> >said, the average anyone is satisfied with 'more standard fare' IME.
>
> I think the point DFM was making is that standard UK fare hasn't
> changed much over the years.
I didn't see the post, but I disagree. You just need to go to any
supermarket or street market to see how different the range of what's on
offer has changed. My parents eat a completely different diet now to
what they did in the 70s. I grew up on a council estate- I'm not sure
how much more standard you want.
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> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:38:59 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Viking <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:20:54 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:08:37 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>mushy peas are old fashioned, regional and very not popular, but
> >> >>>theres nothing particularly wrong with them. You will be lucky to fond
> >> >>>them in restros.
> >> >>
> >> >>Not the kind of cuisine that will earn you Michelin stars.
> >> >
> >> >neither is a sandwich, not sure what your point is.
> >>
> >> Read the thread. We were saying that the new cuisine hasn't trickled
> >> down to the avarage UK citizen yet. By way of agreeing, I said "Mushy
> >> peas, anyone?" The idea being that the average Briton is satisifed
> >> with more standard fare.
> >
> >What is the average briton, and what do they eat? It ain't mushy peas
> >around here, for sure. I haven't noticed it anywhere for ages. That
> >said, the average anyone is satisfied with 'more standard fare' IME.
>
> I think the point DFM was making is that standard UK fare hasn't
> changed much over the years.
I didn't see the post, but I disagree. You just need to go to any
supermarket or street market to see how different the range of what's on
offer has changed. My parents eat a completely different diet now to
what they did in the 70s. I grew up on a council estate- I'm not sure
how much more standard you want.
--
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:00:39 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> I think the point DFM was making is that standard UK fare hasn't
>> changed much over the years.
>
>I didn't see the post, but I disagree. You just need to go to any
>supermarket or street market to see how different the range of what's on
>offer has changed. My parents eat a completely different diet now to
>what they did in the 70s. I grew up on a council estate- I'm not sure
>how much more standard you want.
Interesting, thanks.
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> I think the point DFM was making is that standard UK fare hasn't
>> changed much over the years.
>
>I didn't see the post, but I disagree. You just need to go to any
>supermarket or street market to see how different the range of what's on
>offer has changed. My parents eat a completely different diet now to
>what they did in the 70s. I grew up on a council estate- I'm not sure
>how much more standard you want.
Interesting, thanks.
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In article <[email protected]>, The Reid
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:37:00 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>
> > but I'm pretty sure
> >that's got a lot more to do with planning regulations than any lack of
> >interest in developers (very nice it is too)
>
> Yes, I can think of one cold store that hasn't been redeveloped until
> about six months ago, the rest is either developed or not going to be
> developed further, hopefully ever.
Is it in a trust ?
jay
Wed Apr 25, 2007
mailto:[email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:37:00 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>
> > but I'm pretty sure
> >that's got a lot more to do with planning regulations than any lack of
> >interest in developers (very nice it is too)
>
> Yes, I can think of one cold store that hasn't been redeveloped until
> about six months ago, the rest is either developed or not going to be
> developed further, hopefully ever.
Is it in a trust ?
jay
Wed Apr 25, 2007
mailto:[email protected]
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:09:35 -0700, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yes, I can think of one cold store that hasn't been redeveloped until
>> about six months ago, the rest is either developed or not going to be
>> developed further, hopefully ever.
>
>Is it in a trust ?
the undeveloped bits are parks, public buildings etc. I can think of
one bit of Deptford thats still industrial, that will change one day.
Theres a big council estate (project) thats already being redeveloped
as high end flats with marina in the dock. The rest is mostly historic
warehouses already converted. no doubt theres the odd bits that will
develop, but theres not much scope left.
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>> Yes, I can think of one cold store that hasn't been redeveloped until
>> about six months ago, the rest is either developed or not going to be
>> developed further, hopefully ever.
>
>Is it in a trust ?
the undeveloped bits are parks, public buildings etc. I can think of
one bit of Deptford thats still industrial, that will change one day.
Theres a big council estate (project) thats already being redeveloped
as high end flats with marina in the dock. The rest is mostly historic
warehouses already converted. no doubt theres the odd bits that will
develop, but theres not much scope left.
--
Mike Reid
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:48:16 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> I type restro a lot (food group) restaurant seems a bit of an effort,
>> would you be happier with restau', looks odd to me. And it gives
>> Martin something pointless to post about.
>
>You can type whatever you feel like. Restaurant isn't hard to type IME.
>Maybe you should just post in SMS-style abbreviations and acronyms if
>that's less effort?
tx.
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_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> I type restro a lot (food group) restaurant seems a bit of an effort,
>> would you be happier with restau', looks odd to me. And it gives
>> Martin something pointless to post about.
>
>You can type whatever you feel like. Restaurant isn't hard to type IME.
>Maybe you should just post in SMS-style abbreviations and acronyms if
>that's less effort?

tx.
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:53:59 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I think the point DFM was making is that standard UK fare hasn't
>changed much over the years.
its changed hugely I think. It was all meat and two veg and heavy
puddings. 40 years ago people thought rice and pasta were for
desserts. Aubergines, peppers and such like were unheard of. Herbs and
spices were used in tiny amounts or not at all. There were hardly any
restros.
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wrote:
>I think the point DFM was making is that standard UK fare hasn't
>changed much over the years.
its changed hugely I think. It was all meat and two veg and heavy
puddings. 40 years ago people thought rice and pasta were for
desserts. Aubergines, peppers and such like were unheard of. Herbs and
spices were used in tiny amounts or not at all. There were hardly any
restros.
--
Mike Reid
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