On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:49:06 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:

>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>
>>Don't give them alcohol free beer it rots their teeth and gives them an
>>addiction to sugar. Give them the real thing.
>
> :-)
>
>They love ginger beer, though I can only get it in one shop here - /the/
>Indian grocers.

We used to make our own from "a ginger beer" plant when I was kid.

Maybe something to ask about on urg?
--

Martin

"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:08:39 +0530, "grusl" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>By the way, is there still such a thing as European street food, apart
>>from
>>chestnuts?
>
> Hot dogs? herring stalls, bratworst stalls ...


Yep. They count. Anything else?

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore

"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:34:32 +0200, Magda <magda@eu> wrote:
>
> burgers
> ice cream

Tres exotique

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:38:08 GMT, "William Black" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Magda" <magda@eu> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:32:03 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin
>> <[email protected]>
>> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>>
>> ... On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:20:01 GMT, "William Black"
>> <[email protected]>
>> ... wrote:
>> ...
>> ... >
>> ... >"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>> wrote
>> ... >in message news:[email protected]...
>> ... >
>> ... >> I would have employed another lackey to supervise his toilet
>> hygiene.
>> ... >
>> ... >Why bother?
>> ... >
>> ... >India is dust ridden.
>> ... >
>> ... >About 25% of the dust in the cities is estimated to be dried shit.
>> ...
>> ... We don't wish to know what the other 75% is.
>>
>> I know enough to never go there. Thank you, guys.
>>
>
>You should
>
>It's endlessly fascinating, endlessly terrifying, endlessly entertaining
>and the weather is digital, it's either wonderful or hostile and the people
>are marvelous.

Did I mention the French woman, that one of my colleague's knew, who didn't
believe in conventional medicine, refused to be vaccinated and as a result died
of a tropical disease, whilst on holiday in India?
--

Martin

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:30:14 +0530, "grusl" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"William Black" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "grusl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "William Black" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>> It's common everywhere in India but Bombay.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Now common in Bombay this year as well, unfortunately. Two hours a day
>>> for starters and it will only get worse.
>>
>> Not so far in the city proper.
>>
>
>It's already happening in Brihan Mumbai - that was my point - and it will
>get to the city proper. Blackouts in Dagenham are still blackouts in London.
>Your mother-in-law will be affected unless she lives in an area with
>ministers or other "VIPs" living in it. They're immune from "loadshedding"
>... i.e. blackouts.

A blackout in Hamburg, caused by disconnecting a power line to allow a new ship
to pass down a river, effected mainland Europe as far as Sicily last year.
--

Martin

"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:29:48 +0530, "grusl" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>Now common in Bombay this year as well, unfortunately. Two hours a day for
>>starters and it will only get worse.
>
> Do you have your own standby generator?


We have something called an inverter that gives us 4-5 hours with two
laptops and a couple of lights. We lose about 2-4 hours a day, staggered
from morning to evening. I work at home so it affects me more. If I'm on a
deadline I sometimes work through the night, when there's few blackouts.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:31:06 +0530, "grusl" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news[email protected].. .
>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:08:39 +0530, "grusl" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>By the way, is there still such a thing as European street food, apart
>>>from
>>>chestnuts?
>>
>> Hot dogs? herring stalls, bratworst stalls ...
>
>
>Yep. They count. Anything else?

Various seafood things, shrimps eels ... in bread rolls in NL.
--

Martin

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:38:08 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "William Black"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... > I know enough to never go there. Thank you, guys.
...
... You should.
...
... It's endlessly fascinating, endlessly terrifying, endlessly entertaining
... and the weather is digital, it's either wonderful or hostile and the people
... are marvelous.

Marvelous people don't maim their children so they can beg more "efficiently".

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:35:55 +0530, "grusl" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:29:48 +0530, "grusl" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>Now common in Bombay this year as well, unfortunately. Two hours a day for
>>>starters and it will only get worse.
>>
>> Do you have your own standby generator?
>
>
>We have something called an inverter that gives us 4-5 hours with two
>laptops and a couple of lights. We lose about 2-4 hours a day, staggered
>from morning to evening. I work at home so it affects me more. If I'm on a
>deadline I sometimes work through the night, when there's few blackouts.

and post here too :-)
--

Martin

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:32:22 +0530, in rec.travel.europe, "grusl"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

...
... "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
... news:[email protected]...
... > On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:34:32 +0200, Magda <magda@eu> wrote:
... >
... > burgers
... > ice cream
...
... Tres exotique

*European* street food - why does it have to be "exotique"?

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:03:23 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:38:08 GMT, "William Black" <[email protected]>
... wrote:
...
... >
... >"Magda" <magda@eu> wrote in message
... >news:[email protected].. .
... >> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:32:03 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin
... >> <[email protected]>
... >> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >>
... >> ... On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:20:01 GMT, "William Black"
... >> <[email protected]>
... >> ... wrote:
... >> ...
... >> ... >
... >> ... >"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
... >> wrote
... >> ... >in message news:[email protected]...
... >> ... >
... >> ... >> I would have employed another lackey to supervise his toilet
... >> hygiene.
... >> ... >
... >> ... >Why bother?
... >> ... >
... >> ... >India is dust ridden.
... >> ... >
... >> ... >About 25% of the dust in the cities is estimated to be dried shit.
... >> ...
... >> ... We don't wish to know what the other 75% is.
... >>
... >> I know enough to never go there. Thank you, guys.
... >>
... >
... >You should
... >
... >It's endlessly fascinating, endlessly terrifying, endlessly entertaining
... >and the weather is digital, it's either wonderful or hostile and the people
... >are marvelous.
...
... Did I mention the French woman, that one of my colleague's knew, who didn't
... believe in conventional medicine, refused to be vaccinated and as a result died
... of a tropical disease, whilst on holiday in India?

Darwin in action!! )

Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :

>On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:49:06 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>>
>>>Don't give them alcohol free beer it rots their teeth and gives them an
>>>addiction to sugar. Give them the real thing.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>They love ginger beer, though I can only get it in one shop here - /the/
>>Indian grocers.
>
>We used to make our own from "a ginger beer" plant when I was kid.
>
>Maybe something to ask about on urg?

We did too. Nobody here has a ginger beer plant, of course.
I tried making some a while ago but it'S more trouble than popping in at
the indian on the way home.

--
Tim C.

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:17:06 +0200, Magda <magda@eu> wrote:

>On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:32:22 +0530, in rec.travel.europe, "grusl"
><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ...
> ... "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> ... news:[email protected]...
> ... > On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:34:32 +0200, Magda <magda@eu> wrote:
> ... >
> ... > burgers
> ... > ice cream
> ...
> ... Tres exotique
>
>*European* street food - why does it have to be "exotique"?

because exotic means foreign?
--

Martin

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:18:03 +0200, Magda <magda@eu> wrote:

>On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:03:23 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:38:08 GMT, "William Black" <[email protected]>
> ... wrote:
> ...
> ... >
> ... >"Magda" <magda@eu> wrote in message
> ... >news:[email protected].. .
> ... >> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:32:03 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin
> ... >> <[email protected]>
> ... >> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
> ... >>
> ... >> ... On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:20:01 GMT, "William Black"
> ... >> <[email protected]>
> ... >> ... wrote:
> ... >> ...
> ... >> ... >
> ... >> ... >"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
> ... >> wrote
> ... >> ... >in message news:[email protected]...
> ... >> ... >
> ... >> ... >> I would have employed another lackey to supervise his toilet
> ... >> hygiene.
> ... >> ... >
> ... >> ... >Why bother?
> ... >> ... >
> ... >> ... >India is dust ridden.
> ... >> ... >
> ... >> ... >About 25% of the dust in the cities is estimated to be dried shit.
> ... >> ...
> ... >> ... We don't wish to know what the other 75% is.
> ... >>
> ... >> I know enough to never go there. Thank you, guys.
> ... >>
> ... >
> ... >You should
> ... >
> ... >It's endlessly fascinating, endlessly terrifying, endlessly entertaining
> ... >and the weather is digital, it's either wonderful or hostile and the people
> ... >are marvelous.
> ...
> ... Did I mention the French woman, that one of my colleague's knew, who didn't
> ... believe in conventional medicine, refused to be vaccinated and as a result died
> ... of a tropical disease, whilst on holiday in India?
>
>Darwin in action!! )

I like your positive attitude to quack medicine :-)
--

Martin

"William Black" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:6OiYh.1064$H%[email protected]...
>

> The supply of fuel and its price is a government monopoly in India.
> You could get a generator, getting fuel is technically illegal but a
> small bribe will probably get you a permit, you'll probably need to
> repeat the bribe every time someone notices you filling your can up.
>

I'm not sure this is still true, William, but I don't know. If it is,
violations are amazingly widespread and completely ignored. I mean, the
Indian Oil truck pulls up outside the house and fills up the generator's
tank as well as those of the neighbours. Most buildings of any size,
including ours, have a generator.

We wanted to be free of the generator because the residents' assocaition
rules indicate it can only be switched on at night (when families are home).
As we work at home during the day we have the inverter as well, which is
also better at regulating the flow of power to prevent surges than the
ancient generator.

> Nearly everyone has an AC, getting it serviced is entertaining if you
> don't have a contract with the makers...

We don't have an AC - they're not common in Bangalore - but they're
desirable almost everywhere else in India.

> People use inverters to keep the fridge and the fans on when the power
> goes.
>

Fridges and other appliances suck too much power. Our inverter keeps on
lights and our laptops. Everything else goes off to maximize the inverter's
lifespan.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore