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Old Apr 24th 2007 | 9:33 pm
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:38:20 +0530, "grusl"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> Isn't that true?
>
>I understand it only to be an option, should one wish to waste money, but
>that there are cheaper ways to get around. Perhaps I'm mistaken. It seems
>equivalent a London paper writing about New York restaurants by saying
>"should you survive the walk to Union Square without being mugged and shot

yes, one stop on subway is expensive (but not that much) if you don't
buy the sensible ticket.
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Old Apr 24th 2007 | 9:35 pm
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:20:37 +0530, "grusl"
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> "the check for a modest restaurant meal often
>looks eerily similar to what you might expect in New York: except the figure
>is in pounds not dollars, roughly doubling the cost."

London *is* expensive, but also the dollar is worth a lot less than it
was. I'm not entirely sure why eating out is expensive in comparison,
maybe staff get better pay?
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Old Apr 24th 2007 | 9:38 pm
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Following up to The Reid <[email protected]> :

>> "the check for a modest restaurant meal often
>>looks eerily similar to what you might expect in New York: except the figure
>>is in pounds not dollars, roughly doubling the cost."
>
>London *is* expensive, but also the dollar is worth a lot less than it
>was. I'm not entirely sure why eating out is expensive in comparison,
>maybe staff get better pay?

The NY checks (sic) don't contain the huge tip you're supposed to hand over
as well?
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Old Apr 24th 2007 | 9:39 pm
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"The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:20:37 +0530, "grusl"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "the check for a modest restaurant meal often
>>looks eerily similar to what you might expect in New York: except the
>>figure
>>is in pounds not dollars, roughly doubling the cost."
>
> London *is* expensive, but also the dollar is worth a lot less than it
> was. I'm not entirely sure why eating out is expensive in comparison,
> maybe staff get better pay?

Almost certainly.

The minimum wage in the UK is double that in the US.

Now try finding someone in London who'll work for the minimum wage...


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Old Apr 24th 2007 | 9:40 pm
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Following up to The Reid <[email protected]> :

>On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:09:51 +0100, "Ian F."
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>There'll always be the naysayers who think we still only offer fish and
>>chips and pies.
>
>Someone once asked me what british cuisine was. I think for english
>speaking countries they see a lot of stuff thats British as thier own
>home cooking, therefore not "a cuisine". Somebody added that shepherds
>pie was from New Zealand!!!
>
>>No amount of awards or magazine articles will convince them - they're best
>>ignored IMO.
>
>probably. But its nice you can eat well here nowadays. although I do
>like pies, i'm currently developing a steak, stout and oyster pie,
>thats certainly trad english. (someone will probably now say stout is
>Irish! ) :-)


Well it can't be British, as the wheat used to make the flour for the
pastry originally came from somewhere near Baghdad. :-)
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Old Apr 24th 2007 | 9:44 pm
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"Tim C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Following up to The Reid <[email protected]> :
>
>>London *is* expensive, but also the dollar is worth a lot less than it
>>was. I'm not entirely sure why eating out is expensive in comparison,
>>maybe staff get better pay?
>
> The NY checks (sic) don't contain the huge tip you're supposed to hand
> over
> as well?

I fear the four-pound subway ride for one stop is going to be the putative
benchmark of London in the 2000s, just as the canonical US$5 strawberry was
of Tokyo in the 1980s. Yes, it was theoretically possible to pay that ...
but no one actually did.

Cheers
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Old Apr 24th 2007 | 9:46 pm
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:39:48 GMT, "William Black"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> London *is* expensive, but also the dollar is worth a lot less than it
>> was. I'm not entirely sure why eating out is expensive in comparison,
>> maybe staff get better pay?
>
>Almost certainly.
>
>The minimum wage in the UK is double that in the US.
>
>Now try finding someone in London who'll work for the minimum wage...

if its waiters, it will be a pretty girl from Poland or Lithuania. I
wonder if all the Spanish waiters, who have now disappeared, are still
as enthusiastic about the EU?
But no person in own accommodation could afford to work for minimum.
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Old Apr 24th 2007 | 9:47 pm
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:40:23 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
wrote:

>>probably. But its nice you can eat well here nowadays. although I do
>>like pies, i'm currently developing a steak, stout and oyster pie,
>>thats certainly trad english. (someone will probably now say stout is
>>Irish! ) :-)
>
>
>Well it can't be British, as the wheat used to make the flour for the
>pastry originally came from somewhere near Baghdad. :-)

silly me :-)
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Old Apr 24th 2007 | 9:47 pm
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:38:20 +0530, "grusl" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:20:37 +0530, "grusl" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>> low price in London is hard, pubs are probably a good general bet.
>>>
>>>It's a NYT piece written by Jane Perlez, one of the rather less gifted
>>>reporters there. Her cliches include the four-pound subway ride
>>
>> Isn't that true?
>
>I understand it only to be an option, should one wish to waste money, but
>that there are cheaper ways to get around. Perhaps I'm mistaken. It seems
>equivalent a London paper writing about New York restaurants by saying
>"should you survive the walk to Union Square without being mugged and shot
>..."

You can get around it by buying an Oyster Card, BUT even some Brits not living
in London don't know what an Oyster Card is.
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Old Apr 24th 2007 | 9:53 pm
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:14:55 +0530, "grusl" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Tim C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> Following up to The Reid <[email protected]> :
>>
>>>London *is* expensive, but also the dollar is worth a lot less than it
>>>was. I'm not entirely sure why eating out is expensive in comparison,
>>>maybe staff get better pay?
>>
>> The NY checks (sic) don't contain the huge tip you're supposed to hand
>> over
>> as well?
>
>I fear the four-pound subway ride for one stop is going to be the putative
>benchmark of London in the 2000s, just as the canonical US$5 strawberry was
>of Tokyo in the 1980s. Yes, it was theoretically possible to pay that ...
>but no one actually did.

My daughter would have done, if David hadn't mentioned Oyster Cards here and if
I hadn't warned her. I think the fare was GBP4.50
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Old Apr 24th 2007 | 11:39 pm
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:39:48 GMT, "William Black"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> London *is* expensive, but also the dollar is worth a lot less than it
> >> was. I'm not entirely sure why eating out is expensive in comparison,
> >> maybe staff get better pay?
> >
> >Almost certainly.
> >
> >The minimum wage in the UK is double that in the US.
> >
> >Now try finding someone in London who'll work for the minimum wage...
>
> if its waiters, it will be a pretty girl from Poland or Lithuania. I
> wonder if all the Spanish waiters, who have now disappeared, are still
> as enthusiastic about the EU?

Plenty of Spanish waiters around here, and not just Spanish restaurants.
I've often spoken to them in Spanish as a way to get their attention-
i.e. la cuenta!

I did it in Italian last week in a branch of Carluccios, but I was
flirting!

> But no person in own accommodation could afford to work for minimum.

A lot of the recent immigrants are young and single (or have left
partners in the home country) so they don't mind living in very cramped
accomodation for a few years to earn some money. The money they earn in
the UK can go a long way in, say, Poland, so they can use some of that
money to build homes, start businesses etc. That's already happening.

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Old Apr 24th 2007 | 11:56 pm
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:39:42 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>> if its waiters, it will be a pretty girl from Poland or Lithuania. I
>> wonder if all the Spanish waiters, who have now disappeared, are still
>> as enthusiastic about the EU?
>
>Plenty of Spanish waiters around here, and not just Spanish restaurants.
>I've often spoken to them in Spanish as a way to get their attention-
>i.e. la cuenta!

interesting, haven't seen one for a while here.

>I did it in Italian last week in a branch of Carluccios, but I was
>flirting!

tart!

>> But no person in own accommodation could afford to work for minimum.
>
>A lot of the recent immigrants are young and single (or have left
>partners in the home country) so they don't mind living in very cramped
>accomodation for a few years to earn some money. The money they earn in
>the UK can go a long way in, say, Poland, so they can use some of that
>money to build homes, start businesses etc. That's already happening.

Sure, i imagine they are sharing rooms.
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Old Apr 25th 2007 | 12:06 am
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:56:26 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
wrote:

>>Plenty of Spanish waiters around here, and not just Spanish restaurants.
>>I've often spoken to them in Spanish as a way to get their attention-

>>i.e. la cuenta!

when I do that they bring a sherry! :-)

>interesting, haven't seen one for a while here.

incidentally, have you ever used or seen used this thing they taught
on language course? I would say "por favor or "oiga, por favor" but
they said "sssss" was OK. I have never heard it in Spain.
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Old Apr 25th 2007 | 12:47 am
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:39:42 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> if its waiters, it will be a pretty girl from Poland or Lithuania. I
> >> wonder if all the Spanish waiters, who have now disappeared, are still
> >> as enthusiastic about the EU?
> >
> >Plenty of Spanish waiters around here, and not just Spanish restaurants.
> >I've often spoken to them in Spanish as a way to get their attention-
> >i.e. la cuenta!
>
> interesting, haven't seen one for a while here.

Manchester is cheaper than London though...

> >I did it in Italian last week in a branch of Carluccios, but I was
> >flirting!
>
> tart!

No, I had Carpaccio!

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Old Apr 25th 2007 | 12:47 am
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:56:26 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >>Plenty of Spanish waiters around here, and not just Spanish restaurants.
> >>I've often spoken to them in Spanish as a way to get their attention-
>
> >>i.e. la cuenta!
>
> when I do that they bring a sherry! :-)
>
> >interesting, haven't seen one for a while here.
>
> incidentally, have you ever used or seen used this thing they taught
> on language course? I would say "por favor or "oiga, por favor" but
> they said "sssss" was OK. I have never heard it in Spain.

Nor have I- I'll ask Oscar, but he's the first to admit there's a heck
of a lot about Spanish Spanish he doesn't have a clue about.

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