"grusl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "William Black" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I find Bombay reasonably hard work. I don't honestly fancy living
>> somewhere where the electric goes off twice a day as well...
>
> It can be hard work ... but still, it's better, er cooler, um more
> interesting, er the food's better than in Delhi
>
Probably less humid than Bombay.

But I'm back in the UK now anyway. I can't take the heat of summer there
these days and I got sick in the monsoon last year as well.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:20:17 GMT, "William Black" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"grusl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "William Black" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I find Bombay reasonably hard work. I don't honestly fancy living
>>> somewhere where the electric goes off twice a day as well...
>>
>> It can be hard work ... but still, it's better, er cooler, um more
>> interesting, er the food's better than in Delhi
>>
>Probably less humid than Bombay.
>
>But I'm back in the UK now anyway. I can't take the heat of summer there
>these days and I got sick in the monsoon last year as well.

In UK? The Dutch August monsoon last year was pretty grim, the winter one was
even worse.
--

Martin

"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:20:17 GMT, "William Black"
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"grusl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "William Black" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> I find Bombay reasonably hard work. I don't honestly fancy living
>>>> somewhere where the electric goes off twice a day as well...
>>>
>>> It can be hard work ... but still, it's better, er cooler, um more
>>> interesting, er the food's better than in Delhi
>>>
>>Probably less humid than Bombay.
>>
>>But I'm back in the UK now anyway. I can't take the heat of summer there
>>these days and I got sick in the monsoon last year as well.
>
> In UK? The Dutch August monsoon last year was pretty grim, the winter one
> was
> even worse.

Nope, in India :-)

You really should spend June in Bombay some day.

I stood on my mother-in-law's balcony and watched the rain fall, three
inches in half an hour...

I watched the roads fill up and the traffic slowly disappear until all that
was left on the road was the huge BEST buses ploughing through six inches of
water on the road.

Our pani wallah (bread man) couldn't get to work on his bike because the
Mahim causeway was under four feet of water, but it didn't matter because
the local bakery was as well...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:50:19 GMT, "William Black" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:20:17 GMT, "William Black"
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"grusl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected].. .
>>>>
>>>> "William Black" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> I find Bombay reasonably hard work. I don't honestly fancy living
>>>>> somewhere where the electric goes off twice a day as well...
>>>>
>>>> It can be hard work ... but still, it's better, er cooler, um more
>>>> interesting, er the food's better than in Delhi
>>>>
>>>Probably less humid than Bombay.
>>>
>>>But I'm back in the UK now anyway. I can't take the heat of summer there
>>>these days and I got sick in the monsoon last year as well.
>>
>> In UK? The Dutch August monsoon last year was pretty grim, the winter one
>> was
>> even worse.
>
>Nope, in India :-)
>
>You really should spend June in Bombay some day.
>
>I stood on my mother-in-law's balcony and watched the rain fall, three
>inches in half an hour...
>
>I watched the roads fill up and the traffic slowly disappear until all that
>was left on the road was the huge BEST buses ploughing through six inches of
>water on the road.
>
>Our pani wallah (bread man) couldn't get to work on his bike because the
>Mahim causeway was under four feet of water, but it didn't matter because
>the local bakery was as well...

I've worked in the tropics too.
--

Martin

On Apr 26, 11:22 am, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 26 Apr 2007 07:28:41 -0700, Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > but despite
> >there being a substantial African community, African food hasn't
> >really taken off in the wider population.
>
> yes, hardly any african restos, are there many in other western cities?


Ethiopian food has a cult following in the US, and you can find it in
most large US cities. African cuisines other than Ethiopian are a lot
harder to find. Brussels and New York at least have a bunch of other
African places. Brussels is the only place I've ever seen Congolese
and Rwandan restaurants. I know of Senegalese, Nigerian, Ghanaian,
Ivoirian, and South African places in New York.

On 26 Apr 2007 12:12:42 -0700, Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Apr 26, 11:22 am, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 26 Apr 2007 07:28:41 -0700, Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > but despite
>> >there being a substantial African community, African food hasn't
>> >really taken off in the wider population.
>>
>> yes, hardly any african restos, are there many in other western cities?
>
>
>Ethiopian food has a cult following in the US, and you can find it in
>most large US cities. African cuisines other than Ethiopian are a lot
>harder to find. Brussels and New York at least have a bunch of other
>African places. Brussels is the only place I've ever seen Congolese
>and Rwandan restaurants. I know of Senegalese, Nigerian, Ghanaian,
>Ivoirian, and South African places in New York.

There is an Ethiopian restaurant in Noordeinde in Leiden, but no restros.
--

Martin

Has anyone been to Roussillon lately? How is their food holding up?

Thanks -- Larry

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:16:33 -0400, pltrgyst <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Has anyone been to Roussillon lately? How is their food holding up?

Languedoc?
--

Martin

Make credence recognised that on 26 Apr 2007 07:11:50 -0700, Iceman
<[email protected]> has scripted:

>On Apr 25, 10:32 am, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, The Reid
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:08:05 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> > _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> > >The main cost which affects people living in London (as opposed to
>> > >visiting) IMO is housing. I'd have to be extremely wealthy to have the
>> > >kind of flat I do here (in Manchester) if I was living almost anywhere
>> > >in London. If I had the money, I'd live in London though. It's such a
>> > >great city IMO.
>>
>> > If I had the money Id probably be in Helford but a LOndon riverfront
>> > penthouse would be a nice second best
>>
>> I have long found it curious why it took so long for riverfront
>> development of high end housing to flourish in London....
>
>
>The South Bank area was run down at one point, that's why. But London
>has really done a great job revitalizing it. By contrast, New York
>has highways on its two riverbanks, when it should have high end
>housing and riverfront restaurants and bars and cafes.

...and put the highways underground. The cost can't have been that
much higher, but damn, riverfront property in New York must be hard to
come by.
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Make credence recognised that on Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:35:11 +0100,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) has scripted:

>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:51:04 GMT, "William Black"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >India is vast and contains several distinct cultures. These cultures have
>> >different cuisines and, as in Europe, there are huge regional differences
>> >in how people cook.
>>
>> those of us who take an interest in food (or even casually pick up an
>> Indian cookbook) know this nowadays.
>>
>> >The majority of chefs in 'Indian restaurants' in the UK come from a small
>> >area in the Punjab, but the food they cook is often not of Punjabi origin.
>>
>> and often the men cooked, where the women cooked back home.
>
>I had my own (male) cook part of the time I spent in Delhi. Pampered
>doesn't begin to describe it.

I would have employed another lackey to supervise his toilet hygiene.
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"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...

> I would have employed another lackey to supervise his toilet hygiene.

Why bother?

India is dust ridden.

About 25% of the dust in the cities is estimated to be dried shit.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Make credence recognised that on Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:20:01 GMT,
"William Black" <[email protected]> has scripted:

>
>"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
>in message news:[email protected]...
>
>> I would have employed another lackey to supervise his toilet hygiene.
>
>Why bother?
>
>India is dust ridden.
>
>About 25% of the dust in the cities is estimated to be dried shit.

Dried shit isn't such a problem, it's the fresh stuff that finds its
way into your food.
--
---
DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
---
--

On Apr 26, 8:22 am, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> yes, hardly any african restos, are there many in other western
> cities?
A few years ago, I stayed in Paris 10 near the Gare du Nord. One of
the restaurants close to my hotel was Cannibal, which sounded too much
like Sweeney Todd. I decided instead that it was safer to eat at one
called Dakar. I could not find either one in pagesjaunes.fr, so they
might have gone out of business.

"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> Make credence recognised that on Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:20:01 GMT,
> "William Black" <[email protected]> has scripted:
>
>>
>>"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
>>in message news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> I would have employed another lackey to supervise his toilet hygiene.
>>
>>Why bother?
>>
>>India is dust ridden.
>>
>>About 25% of the dust in the cities is estimated to be dried shit.
>
> Dried shit isn't such a problem, it's the fresh stuff that finds its
> way into your food.

Well I've eaten just about everywhere in India, from people's homes to
flash restaurants to road side stalls to beach shacks and never got sick,
except once when I had bacon and eggs for breakfast...

If you eat from the places where the middle class Indians eat you get sick
as often as they do. If you eat from the places where they don't get food
then you get sick.

For example, buying hot food in the Bombay leather market is on the edge of
suicidal, it's in the midst of several tanneries and they are inside
Daravi, the biggest slum in the world.

But what did I see the last time I was there?

A pair of kids in backpacker gear eating from a food stall in the street...

They'll have almost certainly spent the next week or so being horribly sick,
and worse, and probably cursing Indian food for the rest of their lives...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Apr 26, 6:38 pm, "William Black" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
> in messagenews:vf82339c69uqhv0ro49ms6f77cp3aqa32n@4ax .com...
>
>
>
> > Make credence recognised that on Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:20:01 GMT,
> > "William Black" <[email protected]> has scripted:
>
> >>"Deeply Filled Mortician" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote
> >>in messagenews:ef4233dn2oi1rgqtu812ueqsuj5jie8k4j@4ax .com...
>
> >>> I would have employed another lackey to supervise his toilet hygiene.
>
> >>Why bother?
>
> >>India is dust ridden.
>
> >>About 25% of the dust in the cities is estimated to be dried shit.
>
> > Dried shit isn't such a problem, it's the fresh stuff that finds its
> > way into your food.
>
> Well I've eaten just about everywhere in India, from people's homes to
> flash restaurants to road side stalls to beach shacks and never got sick,
> except once when I had bacon and eggs for breakfast...
>
> If you eat from the places where the middle class Indians eat you get sick
> as often as they do. If you eat from the places where they don't get food
> then you get sick.
>
> For example, buying hot food in the Bombay leather market is on the edge of
> suicidal, it's in the midst of several tanneries and they are inside
> Daravi, the biggest slum in the world.
>
> But what did I see the last time I was there?
>
> A pair of kids in backpacker gear eating from a food stall in the street...
>
> They'll have almost certainly spent the next week or so being horribly sick,
> and worse, and probably cursing Indian food for the rest of their lives...


You need to use backpacker logic:

Food stall surrounded by tanneries in the middle of a horrible slum "the real India".

Highly-rated, hygienic restaurant in a middle-class district of an
Indian city = "too Westernized".