Syrian refugee crisis.
Jan 5th 2016 | 10:56 am
#841
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Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
I've posted more than once that the political branch of humanity is self serving, thoughtless and ignorant.
When I first heard that Merkel had announced an open door policy to syrian refugees I thought the woman was mad and completely lacking foresight. Putting aside the rights or wrongs of the policy, the inevitable consequences of such a decision were blindingly obvious to me. I wasn't in the least surprised when every man and his dog from just about everywhere decided that fortress europe, with those mythical pavements cast from pure solid gold was the place to be.
It was also obvious that every ne'er do well worth his weight in heroin would also want to try his luck in countries where, to be frank, you can get away with murder.
Merkel's stupidity has resulted in countries bordering europe putting up the shutters and now we hear that internal borders, free for decades, are now likely to be reimposed.
Far from winning her the nobel prize, this policy will inevitably result in her own demise, will earn germany the emnity of border countries from greece to hungary and beyond and will greatly contribute to the UK leaving the EU at the forthcoming referendum. It may even spell the end of the euro.
The issue now being faced in germany, where so many young men congregate, will not die down. It will only take time before the boredom and frustration of being in a country not renowned for its racial tolerance boils over. As has been mentioned before, the social values of many migrants are incompatible with a liberal society where women are treated equally and it won't be long before the Bild Zeitungs of europe start crying out for stricter controls and more police on the streets.
It's a recipe for disaster that only a politician could have so thoughtlessly have brought about.
When I first heard that Merkel had announced an open door policy to syrian refugees I thought the woman was mad and completely lacking foresight. Putting aside the rights or wrongs of the policy, the inevitable consequences of such a decision were blindingly obvious to me. I wasn't in the least surprised when every man and his dog from just about everywhere decided that fortress europe, with those mythical pavements cast from pure solid gold was the place to be.
It was also obvious that every ne'er do well worth his weight in heroin would also want to try his luck in countries where, to be frank, you can get away with murder.
Merkel's stupidity has resulted in countries bordering europe putting up the shutters and now we hear that internal borders, free for decades, are now likely to be reimposed.
Far from winning her the nobel prize, this policy will inevitably result in her own demise, will earn germany the emnity of border countries from greece to hungary and beyond and will greatly contribute to the UK leaving the EU at the forthcoming referendum. It may even spell the end of the euro.
The issue now being faced in germany, where so many young men congregate, will not die down. It will only take time before the boredom and frustration of being in a country not renowned for its racial tolerance boils over. As has been mentioned before, the social values of many migrants are incompatible with a liberal society where women are treated equally and it won't be long before the Bild Zeitungs of europe start crying out for stricter controls and more police on the streets.
It's a recipe for disaster that only a politician could have so thoughtlessly have brought about.
Jan 5th 2016 | 1:22 pm
#842
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From: Fraser Valley BC
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
The Syrian refugee crisis boiled over last year. Merkel was the one European leader who stopped looking the other direction and offered something of a solution. Accepting and integrating that number of refugees was never going to be easy, but that doesn't make it the wrong thing to do.
In my humble opinion, not enough politicians play chess otherwise they would understand how to ask and deal with "what if.." scenarios.
Jan 5th 2016 | 2:02 pm
#843
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Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Did you?
That's not a moral issue?
So you're putting aside the rights and wrongs while saying you think it was mad, lacking foresight and obviously wrong. 
Nope, no moral dimension there.
Putting aside rights and wrongs again? 
There's that lack of moral dimension again.
Putting aside the rights and wrongs of course. 
I've posted more than once that the political branch of humanity is self serving...
When I first heard that Merkel had announced an open door policy to syrian refugees, I thought the woman was mad and completely lacking foresight.Putting aside the rights or wrongs of the policy, the inevitable consequences of such a decision were blindingly obvious to me....I wasn't in the least surprised when every man and his dog from just about everywhere decided that fortress europe...was the place to be.
It was also obvious that every ne'er do well worth his weight in heroin would also want to try his luck in countries where, to be frank, you can get away with murder.
Merkel's stupidity
...the social values of many migrants are incompatible with a liberal society
It's a recipe for disaster that only a politician could have so thoughtlessly have brought about.
Jan 5th 2016 | 4:03 pm
#844
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From: Fraser Valley BC
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
I see that I'm going to have to put it a little more simply.
The original post intended to argue that Merkel behaved with reckless stupidity.
The points that you elaborate were obvious consequences of her actions and were included to support that argument and should have been anticipated.
Whether or not the ethics of the decision were correct or incorrect were not discussed.
The original post intended to argue that Merkel behaved with reckless stupidity.
The points that you elaborate were obvious consequences of her actions and were included to support that argument and should have been anticipated.
Whether or not the ethics of the decision were correct or incorrect were not discussed.
Jan 5th 2016 | 6:38 pm
#845
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Posts: 24,667
From: UK
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Did you?
That's not a moral issue?
So you're putting aside the rights and wrongs while saying you think it was mad, lacking foresight and obviously wrong.
Nope, no moral dimension there.
Putting aside rights and wrongs again?
There's that lack of moral dimension again.
Putting aside the rights and wrongs of course.
That's not a moral issue?
So you're putting aside the rights and wrongs while saying you think it was mad, lacking foresight and obviously wrong.
Nope, no moral dimension there.
Putting aside rights and wrongs again?
There's that lack of moral dimension again.
Putting aside the rights and wrongs of course.
Jan 5th 2016 | 7:28 pm
#846
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Posts: 4,219
From: Worcestershire
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
but isn't that exactly what will happen.... some will westernise and adopt many of our vices, and other will dig further into there culture as they try to adapt to there new world view
Jan 5th 2016 | 7:49 pm
#847
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From: UK
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Here's a follow up story on the Palestinian girl in the news last month.
Jan 5th 2016 | 8:38 pm
#848
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From: Worcestershire
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
We want the ones who will adapt. We have laws to deal with those that don't. Here's a follow up story on the Palestinian girl in the news last month. http://youtu.be/TQP4hEBKLxY
Worst still will be those that look at our flaws and expect us to adapt to there ideals..... only takes a short walk through any major city to see some street Imam preaching the benefit of sharia law
Last edited by MikeUK; Jan 5th 2016 at 8:41 pm.
Jan 5th 2016 | 10:34 pm
#849
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Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
The crunch is you can't tell which is which, and in many case's they can't tell you either....
Worst still will be those that look at our flaws and expect us to adapt to there ideals..... only takes a short walk through any major city to see some street Imam preaching the benefit of sharia law
Worst still will be those that look at our flaws and expect us to adapt to there ideals..... only takes a short walk through any major city to see some street Imam preaching the benefit of sharia law
Jan 5th 2016 | 10:55 pm
#850
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Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
There must be. The Paris attackers were reportedly high on heroin when they carried out the attacks.
Jan 6th 2016 | 12:29 am
#852
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From: UK
Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
The crunch is you can't tell which is which, and in many case's they can't tell you either....
Worst still will be those that look at our flaws and expect us to adapt to there ideals..... only takes a short walk through any major city to see some street Imam preaching the benefit of sharia law
Worst still will be those that look at our flaws and expect us to adapt to there ideals..... only takes a short walk through any major city to see some street Imam preaching the benefit of sharia law
Jan 6th 2016 | 12:36 am
#853
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Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
Or, in other words, to actually do that we would need to destroy the entire edifice of cultural Marxism^H^H^H^H^Hpolitical correctness.
Jan 6th 2016 | 12:55 am
#854
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