Coronavirus
Jan 26th 2021, 11:43 pm
#3826
limey party pooper
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 9,982
Jan 27th 2021, 12:13 am
#3827
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Re: Coronavirus
Yes he said something about that I think last week.
Issue with the US facility is Pfizer has guaranteed a certain number of doses to the US by July, so they likely simply cannot meet the US agreement and ship vaccine to other countries. No idea what Canada is paying per dose, US is around $20 per dose.
Issue with the US facility is Pfizer has guaranteed a certain number of doses to the US by July, so they likely simply cannot meet the US agreement and ship vaccine to other countries. No idea what Canada is paying per dose, US is around $20 per dose.
Jan 30th 2021, 3:20 pm
#3830
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Location: SW Ontario
Posts: 19,879
Jan 30th 2021, 3:49 pm
#3831
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Re: Coronavirus
In addition to the government link posted, CTV also has a site they usually update daily, they also compare where other countries are in comparison with different metrics.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...hots-1.5247509
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...hots-1.5247509
Jan 30th 2021, 5:32 pm
#3832
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Joined: Apr 2009
Location: SW Ontario
Posts: 19,879
Re: Coronavirus
In addition to JS and my earlier links - this is quite interesting 5 more vaccines awaiting approval. https://www.canada.ca/en/public-serv...s-covid19.html
Calculator - when will you qualify for the vaccine? https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-ca
It doesn't take into consideration having an existing 'at risk' condition..
Roll out plan for each Province: https://www.omnicalculator.com/healt...e-or-territory
If you get bored, there's another 43 calculators you can play with
https://www.omnicalculator.com/collections/coronavirus
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Calculator - when will you qualify for the vaccine? https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-ca
It doesn't take into consideration having an existing 'at risk' condition..
📅 Using these vaccination rates and an uptake of 70.3%, you should expect to receive your two doses of vaccine and get maximum immunity by between late September 2021 and mid April 2022.
If you get bored, there's another 43 calculators you can play with
https://www.omnicalculator.com/collections/coronavirus.
Last edited by Siouxie; Jan 30th 2021 at 5:37 pm.
Jan 30th 2021, 6:55 pm
#3833
Oscar nominated
Joined: Jan 2008
Location: Moncton, NB, CANADA
Posts: 50,833
Re: Coronavirus
Calculator - when will you qualify for the vaccine? https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-ca
It doesn't take into consideration having an existing 'at risk' condition..
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It doesn't take into consideration having an existing 'at risk' condition..
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This is where I was in a representative line
If the line in Maine was represented by about 100 people, this is where you’d be standing
Here's the link if you want to try it
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-timeline.html
Jan 30th 2021, 7:43 pm
#3834
Oscar nominated
Joined: Jan 2008
Location: Moncton, NB, CANADA
Posts: 50,833
Re: Coronavirus
Be careful what you wish for.
I wished for something and got it...just not in the way I expected.
Our tier system runs Yellow, Orange, Red and Locked Down.
In Orange (and red) socialising has been limited to one household bubble.
In Yellow, a 'steady 20' was allowed. It was supposed to be a fixed 20 but one can imagine someone within a 20 would also be part of a different 20.
However, even if everyone followed it to the letter and stuck rigidly with their 20, this could still involve mixing of 5, 6, or 7 households; 10 if it was all childless couples.
When you consider that every household has members who work or in education and they'll all be different to other households making up their 20, that's an awful lot of potential cross infection. Criss cross infection?
I thought the difference was just too great between the two - just your own household or up to 20 people/half a dozen households or more.
Well, they've now closed that difference.
All the province was in yellow at Christmas and it seems people took full advantage of the 'steady 20' and no doubt a bit more.
Once there was enough time for new infections to develop into symptoms and thus testing, we kept breaking records daily for new cases.
We moved into Orange but the case numbers didn't come down when the holiday gatherings infections would have hopefully run their course, nor did they when the move to Orange should have begun to make a difference.
So half the province was moved into Red.
January has seen the Province death figures more than double from Christmas. The new case figure for January is more than the whole of 2020.
Our new case figures have now started to decline but we're still getting more every two days than we were getting in a whole week during December.
Some regions dropped back to Orange. It seems active cases reducing is the reason. It doesn't take much to conclude that a large number of new cases over a sustained period will eventually lead to a large number of (apparent) recoveries/eventual negative tests for those people. And if the rate at which infections have grown slows down, eventually tailing off and actually reducing, then there's going to be a period where active cases fall fairly dramatically and then consistently.
That's good in terms of recovery - putting aside the questions of whether they've really recovered and have no lasting effects.
But it's not a sign of things being back to normal if we're still getting daily infections at a far higher rate than we were before Christmas.
There's actually not a great deal different between Orange and Yellow. The single household - steady 20/several households is the biggest change.
And the province has now announced that in Orange tier, mixing can be extended to include a 'steady 10' which means that new Orange is not so different to Yellow.
They've effectively moved large regions back towards Yellow when the infection rates are worse than when they moved us to Orange.
Sounds like Folly to me.
I wished for something and got it...just not in the way I expected.
Our tier system runs Yellow, Orange, Red and Locked Down.
In Orange (and red) socialising has been limited to one household bubble.
In Yellow, a 'steady 20' was allowed. It was supposed to be a fixed 20 but one can imagine someone within a 20 would also be part of a different 20.
However, even if everyone followed it to the letter and stuck rigidly with their 20, this could still involve mixing of 5, 6, or 7 households; 10 if it was all childless couples.
When you consider that every household has members who work or in education and they'll all be different to other households making up their 20, that's an awful lot of potential cross infection. Criss cross infection?
I thought the difference was just too great between the two - just your own household or up to 20 people/half a dozen households or more.
Well, they've now closed that difference.
All the province was in yellow at Christmas and it seems people took full advantage of the 'steady 20' and no doubt a bit more.
Once there was enough time for new infections to develop into symptoms and thus testing, we kept breaking records daily for new cases.
We moved into Orange but the case numbers didn't come down when the holiday gatherings infections would have hopefully run their course, nor did they when the move to Orange should have begun to make a difference.
So half the province was moved into Red.
January has seen the Province death figures more than double from Christmas. The new case figure for January is more than the whole of 2020.
Our new case figures have now started to decline but we're still getting more every two days than we were getting in a whole week during December.
Some regions dropped back to Orange. It seems active cases reducing is the reason. It doesn't take much to conclude that a large number of new cases over a sustained period will eventually lead to a large number of (apparent) recoveries/eventual negative tests for those people. And if the rate at which infections have grown slows down, eventually tailing off and actually reducing, then there's going to be a period where active cases fall fairly dramatically and then consistently.
That's good in terms of recovery - putting aside the questions of whether they've really recovered and have no lasting effects.
But it's not a sign of things being back to normal if we're still getting daily infections at a far higher rate than we were before Christmas.
There's actually not a great deal different between Orange and Yellow. The single household - steady 20/several households is the biggest change.
And the province has now announced that in Orange tier, mixing can be extended to include a 'steady 10' which means that new Orange is not so different to Yellow.
They've effectively moved large regions back towards Yellow when the infection rates are worse than when they moved us to Orange.
Sounds like Folly to me.
Last edited by BristolUK; Jan 30th 2021 at 7:46 pm.
Jan 30th 2021, 8:21 pm
#3835
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2
Re: Coronavirus
I did an American one that covered conditions in the way one expects it will eventually be sorted out here and I answered Maine as my state.
This is where I was in a representative line
If the line in Maine was represented by about 100 people, this is where you’d be standing
Here's the link if you want to try it
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-timeline.html
This is where I was in a representative line
If the line in Maine was represented by about 100 people, this is where you’d be standing
Here's the link if you want to try it
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-timeline.html
When it comes to Colorado, we think you’re behind 1.6 million others who are at higher risk in your state.
And in **** County, you’re behind 5,100 others.
Looks like I will be able to get mine on the 8th February
Has been mentioned on the other threads but the WHO have been making a big fuss and if their policy was introduced the timing would significantly extend.
Jan 30th 2021, 10:27 pm
#3837
Yo
Joined: Nov 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 24,474
Re: Coronavirus
I did an American one that covered conditions in the way one expects it will eventually be sorted out here and I answered Maine as my state.
This is where I was in a representative line
If the line in Maine was represented by about 100 people, this is where you’d be standing
Here's the link if you want to try it
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-timeline.html
This is where I was in a representative line
If the line in Maine was represented by about 100 people, this is where you’d be standing
Here's the link if you want to try it
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-timeline.html
UK one is around June '21 if I recall, but hopefully much sooner.
I guess Canada is having supply issues. I wonder if there are any politics behind the slow approval on the AZ vax...considering it doesn't seem to be available.
Jan 30th 2021, 10:31 pm
#3838
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Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 0
Re: Coronavirus
I tried that link again.
My wife- When it comes to California, we think you’re behind 2.6 million others who are at higher risk in your state.
Me- When it comes to California, we think you’re behind 31.0 million others who are at higher risk in your state.
Having diabetes seems to really bring one up the ladder in priority.
My dad who is 63- When it comes to California, we think you’re behind 31.0 million others who are at higher risk in your state.
My wife- When it comes to California, we think you’re behind 2.6 million others who are at higher risk in your state.
Me- When it comes to California, we think you’re behind 31.0 million others who are at higher risk in your state.
Having diabetes seems to really bring one up the ladder in priority.
My dad who is 63- When it comes to California, we think you’re behind 31.0 million others who are at higher risk in your state.
Be careful what you wish for.
I wished for something and got it...just not in the way I expected.
Our tier system runs Yellow, Orange, Red and Locked Down.
In Orange (and red) socialising has been limited to one household bubble.
In Yellow, a 'steady 20' was allowed. It was supposed to be a fixed 20 but one can imagine someone within a 20 would also be part of a different 20.
However, even if everyone followed it to the letter and stuck rigidly with their 20, this could still involve mixing of 5, 6, or 7 households; 10 if it was all childless couples.
When you consider that every household has members who work or in education and they'll all be different to other households making up their 20, that's an awful lot of potential cross infection. Criss cross infection?
I thought the difference was just too great between the two - just your own household or up to 20 people/half a dozen households or more.
Well, they've now closed that difference.
All the province was in yellow at Christmas and it seems people took full advantage of the 'steady 20' and no doubt a bit more.
Once there was enough time for new infections to develop into symptoms and thus testing, we kept breaking records daily for new cases.
We moved into Orange but the case numbers didn't come down when the holiday gatherings infections would have hopefully run their course, nor did they when the move to Orange should have begun to make a difference.
So half the province was moved into Red.
January has seen the Province death figures more than double from Christmas. The new case figure for January is more than the whole of 2020.
Our new case figures have now started to decline but we're still getting more every two days than we were getting in a whole week during December.
Some regions dropped back to Orange. It seems active cases reducing is the reason. It doesn't take much to conclude that a large number of new cases over a sustained period will eventually lead to a large number of (apparent) recoveries/eventual negative tests for those people. And if the rate at which infections have grown slows down, eventually tailing off and actually reducing, then there's going to be a period where active cases fall fairly dramatically and then consistently.
That's good in terms of recovery - putting aside the questions of whether they've really recovered and have no lasting effects.
But it's not a sign of things being back to normal if we're still getting daily infections at a far higher rate than we were before Christmas.
There's actually not a great deal different between Orange and Yellow. The single household - steady 20/several households is the biggest change.
And the province has now announced that in Orange tier, mixing can be extended to include a 'steady 10' which means that new Orange is not so different to Yellow.
They've effectively moved large regions back towards Yellow when the infection rates are worse than when they moved us to Orange.
Sounds like Folly to me.
I wished for something and got it...just not in the way I expected.
Our tier system runs Yellow, Orange, Red and Locked Down.
In Orange (and red) socialising has been limited to one household bubble.
In Yellow, a 'steady 20' was allowed. It was supposed to be a fixed 20 but one can imagine someone within a 20 would also be part of a different 20.
However, even if everyone followed it to the letter and stuck rigidly with their 20, this could still involve mixing of 5, 6, or 7 households; 10 if it was all childless couples.
When you consider that every household has members who work or in education and they'll all be different to other households making up their 20, that's an awful lot of potential cross infection. Criss cross infection?
I thought the difference was just too great between the two - just your own household or up to 20 people/half a dozen households or more.
Well, they've now closed that difference.
All the province was in yellow at Christmas and it seems people took full advantage of the 'steady 20' and no doubt a bit more.
Once there was enough time for new infections to develop into symptoms and thus testing, we kept breaking records daily for new cases.
We moved into Orange but the case numbers didn't come down when the holiday gatherings infections would have hopefully run their course, nor did they when the move to Orange should have begun to make a difference.
So half the province was moved into Red.
January has seen the Province death figures more than double from Christmas. The new case figure for January is more than the whole of 2020.
Our new case figures have now started to decline but we're still getting more every two days than we were getting in a whole week during December.
Some regions dropped back to Orange. It seems active cases reducing is the reason. It doesn't take much to conclude that a large number of new cases over a sustained period will eventually lead to a large number of (apparent) recoveries/eventual negative tests for those people. And if the rate at which infections have grown slows down, eventually tailing off and actually reducing, then there's going to be a period where active cases fall fairly dramatically and then consistently.
That's good in terms of recovery - putting aside the questions of whether they've really recovered and have no lasting effects.
But it's not a sign of things being back to normal if we're still getting daily infections at a far higher rate than we were before Christmas.
There's actually not a great deal different between Orange and Yellow. The single household - steady 20/several households is the biggest change.
And the province has now announced that in Orange tier, mixing can be extended to include a 'steady 10' which means that new Orange is not so different to Yellow.
They've effectively moved large regions back towards Yellow when the infection rates are worse than when they moved us to Orange.
Sounds like Folly to me.
Jan 30th 2021, 10:35 pm
#3839
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Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 0
Re: Coronavirus
Just tried the Omnicalculator for Canada...I'm Sept '21 - Apr '22
UK one is around June '21 if I recall, but hopefully much sooner.
I guess Canada is having supply issues. I wonder if there are any politics behind the slow approval on the AZ vax...considering it doesn't seem to be available.
UK one is around June '21 if I recall, but hopefully much sooner.
I guess Canada is having supply issues. I wonder if there are any politics behind the slow approval on the AZ vax...considering it doesn't seem to be available.
Jan 31st 2021, 12:13 am
#3840
Banned
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: SW Ontario
Posts: 19,879
Re: Coronavirus
I tried that link again.
My wife- When it comes to California, we think you’re behind 2.6 million others who are at higher risk in your state.
Me- When it comes to California, we think you’re behind 31.0 million others who are at higher risk in your state.
Having diabetes seems to really bring one up the ladder in priority.
My dad who is 63- When it comes to California, we think you’re behind 31.0 million others who are at higher risk in your state.
My wife- When it comes to California, we think you’re behind 2.6 million others who are at higher risk in your state.
Me- When it comes to California, we think you’re behind 31.0 million others who are at higher risk in your state.
Having diabetes seems to really bring one up the ladder in priority.
My dad who is 63- When it comes to California, we think you’re behind 31.0 million others who are at higher risk in your state.
Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind 23.0 million people across the United States.
When it comes to Maine, we think you’re behind 98,000 others who are at higher risk in your state.
And in Oxford County, you’re behind 2,700 others.
When it comes to Maine, we think you’re behind 98,000 others who are at higher risk in your state.
And in Oxford County, you’re behind 2,700 others.
Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind 23.0 million people across the United States.
When it comes to California, we think you’re behind 2.6 million others who are at higher risk in your state.
And in Napa County, you’re behind 12,100 others.
When it comes to California, we think you’re behind 2.6 million others who are at higher risk in your state.
And in Napa County, you’re behind 12,100 others.