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Have just been watching NDTV, they seem to be investigating all possibilities. The Indian Mujahideen, it is said are aided and receive training from Pakistani terrorist groups. Just as UK terrorist groups receive aid from elsewhere.

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Gosh, where have I been?.....I wasn't aware the UK had terrorist groups? Only some UK Muslim Extremists. Is this what you mean Bipat? And I always thought they went to Pakistan for their 'training'.

I know Ireland have them, but didn't know about the UK.

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Yes I did mean this Heidi and yes they do. But many were born in UK and are therefore 'British'. Also Northern Ireland is part of the UK (and the IRA received funding from elsewhere including USA groups). Terrorism is a world wide problem and Pakistani Government needs to make some efforts to control its own groups.

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You are correct that some terrorists were born and brought up in the UK and some have just come here to live and take all the benefits of living in a democratic society while plotting how to destroy it. However I very much doubt if they consider themselves to be British even though they may have British passports and use them to get to the countries where they get their terrorist training.

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Agree with all you have said, I was just answering the posts above that seem to suggest that if the Mumbai bombers are 'home grown' it is somehow a different situation.
I am on a train at the moment and it is noticeable that all the station refuse baskets are still 'see through', they were installed after an IRA bomb was put in one of these.

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Extermination would be a good means of "control"

And the issue wasnt whether they were "home-grown", but whether they were moslems, or hindu extremists try to give the impression that it was a moslem outrage to stir up communalist hatred......

This is exactly what happened in Margao recently, when the bombers got their b@lls blown off, they were carrying bits and bobs associated with moslems to scatter around the crime scene, had they actually got to it!


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I was mainly referring to the post of PJ regarding the Mujahideen, but also Hindu extremists who are also 'home grown'. Isn't the real point here terrorism is a kind of 'world war' whoever they are and wherever they live.
Whether Moslems, Hindus, ETA, the 'Real IRA' or whoever.

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Well I hope the Indian Government blame those concerned. It is not the time of the year when UK tourists are there - so please leave Visa's alone for the "white" people, by all means ? indian looking people coming from UK.

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I cannot believe your post Noni.
Is there going to be a question on the application form 'are you white?' 'are you 'half white'? what about the British with PIO cards?
Some thoughts for the people killed and injured might be timely as well as thinking about visas.

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It was the previous Mumbai bombings that resulted in the visa changes for non Indians from the UK and the two months out. This affects a lot of us although not people of Indian origin that live in the UK or their families because they are on PIO or similar visas not tourist visas like us.

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I am aware of this and of course sorry for your problems; I also have a tourist visa. (and as do many people of Indian origin who cannot prove their origins with the precise documents).
Noni's post was to suggest all non white people, 'Indian looking' people from the UK should be questioned rather than change visas.
The people who were killed and injured also were affected by the bombings as I said above.

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Yes, I agree they were also affected by the bombings, and my heart goes out to their families, but I am sure we will find out at the end of the day that the culpits were "indian looking" people from wherever they came. They have no respect for their own, sorry, why should we suffer.

The same as why should others suffer for the explosion in UK, because of immigrants allegedly making illicit vodka

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14 Jul: North Devon Journal (UK). Fiona MacKeown, mother of Scarlett Keeling, the teenager murdered in Goa, believes she may be a victim of the News of the World phone hacking… She has been talking to Scotland Yard … she remembered her phone playing up when she returned from India…

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Sorry for your suffering Noni, so its OK for all "Indian Looking people to suffer". Only I wouldn't describe it as 'suffering'. If it really meant that the Pakistani origin Moslems from UK were prevented from killing any more people, then I am sure most would willingly put up with the questioning you suggest. After all it would be their own relatives and friends that were safer.

PS In fact in most cases Indians have different facial characteristics to Pakistani people and Moslems in many cases different facial characteristics to Hindus. (Of course there have been terrorists who have changed religion including white people who have converted to Islam). I don't think there are many Hindu extremists in UK please correct me if you know otherwise.

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Bipat - you have got to agree with all the terrorism in UK, the court photo's show 99.9% of the people are "brown" (if you don't like them being called Indian looking) the same as the Mumbai bombings. To the Laymen all the PAKISTANI, Muslims (why are they called Moslems) Hindu look INDIAN to us. Those who have been converted and turn terrorist should be deported to an
Islamic countries.

Before anybody says I am racial I have a person with a "brown" face as a guest at the moment and we are having a fabulous time.