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Old May 2nd 2010 | 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by el_richo
Greedy and a hypocrite?



So why are all non university educated people chavs? Are all members of your family and friends university educated?



You're Peggy Bundy and i claim my £5



Enough said. This speaks volumes

Look, i'm sure you're a lovely woman in real life, when you're not trying to be something you're not. I hope you stay around.


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Something I'm not? I just am! People should be allowed to be who they are. I personally love whoever is different.
Erm sorry, I really screwed up there with the format. I'm still trying to get used to all the buttons.
 
Old May 2nd 2010 | 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
I have been. Who hasn't?
Where are you going with this?

I haven't seen the movie, I haven't read the book!
 
Old May 2nd 2010 | 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by kate 17
Where are you going with this?

I haven't seen the movie, I haven't read the book!
It's just that you mentioned that you post / used to post on the grauniad talkborad, I thought you'd get the reference.

Apparently not.

Do you have something to add on the I-P question?
 
Old May 2nd 2010 | 12:37 pm
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It's just that you mentioned that you post / used to post on the grauniad talkborad, I thought you'd get the reference.

Apparently not.

Do you have something to add on the I-P question?

Now I get it...no not quo vadis

I-P ?

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You really will have to write more because I'm not a mind reader. I haven't been to the Guardian board for a few months, if it's something to do with that?
 
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Hang on - has everyone missed the obvious builders arse jokes?
 
Old May 2nd 2010 | 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by kate 17
Now I get it...no not quo vadis
Err, no, I don't think you do.

Perhaps dbd33 wil be in a mood to explain in the morning.
 
Old May 2nd 2010 | 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by kate 17
Alex, first of all if people didn't come to Canada for the money then I have a bit of contempt for them.....I can't help it I just do.
Well thank f**k for that!!! You cannot possibly begin to comprehend how much I'd hate to be the sort of person who you'd regard highly, based on the grossly repellent impression that you've succeeded in making in your time on the forum thus far...
 
Old May 2nd 2010 | 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
I can't speak for Alex, but I have a great deal of contempt for people who value everything by money.

Don't worry. We'll manage just fine without you.
What JonboyE said ^^^

I really cannot top that sentiment, so simply:
 
Old May 2nd 2010 | 5:22 pm
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Originally Posted by kate 17
Right well, I did tell you that I was greedy for money because of the travel habits we have....I can't say where I like the best, all countries have a unique charm. I hated Cairo last year though, absolutely bloody HATED it.

I didn't mean to stay so long away when we came here and I do feel a traitor. Educated people, not meaning me in particular, should stay to counter balance the chavs. The Uk might be better for it. My greatest attribute is that I might be a piece of work, but I'm good to the soul and hate to see anybody or anything hurt.

We won't talk about my husbands plumbing...It's in excellent order and I'm smiling, enough said about that.

I was in Calne 2 years ago I thought it was alright?

The poverty stricken life is hard to answer. The poor are less violent here, but the monetary benefits would definitely be better in Moss side. The kids would be better off here I think. The drug problem isn't as severe although it does exist.
um, but didnt you say on another thread that if people bore you etc or if "friends" are of no use you antagonise or ignore them -something along those line- I forget all of it -I got bored after your first few posts.
 
Old May 2nd 2010 | 10:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Oink
...I can see if you have advanced education/training in your native country and now are doing a job in your adopted country that's not consistent with said training, that may well make you unhappy.
Originally Posted by el_richo
As Oink says, many people having to live with a "demotion" would have difficulty in accepting that, no matter what the educational level was.

I don't believe intelligence brings dissatisfaction at all. Surely this has to do with a persons contentment threshold, and especially their ability to set realistic expectations. I've said this before - Dreams and reality are often very different things. When the latter comes crashing in, i don't believe intelligence makes a difference to a persons reaction.

I'd consider myself slightly intelligent and am very happy with my life both in the UK and Canada. I do, however, believe the ability to earn lots of money and have enough vacation time to use it helps a great deal, which takes us back to Oinks point. Take that away and we have a completely different story.

One other aspect is that people believe they strive for change and change will make their and their family's life wonderful, when in reality they're unable to accept it - Work environment, banking, food availability, language, opportunities, weather, distance from support network, driving, cost of living, travel availability and costs, cheese, healthcare, etc.

Originally Posted by kate 17
I started a thread about why university educated people are less likely to like Canada and not one person has given me a decent argument!

That graduates might end up delivering pizza is a bit weak or that they don't get the jobs or salaries that they are expecting is also weak.

Originally Posted by kate 17
Stats Can says that a highly significant number of university educated people don't stay in Canada. STATS CAN SAID IT!!!!!!!!!

I am just suggesting that culture is a big reason for that, but you and others would prefer to think it's because a lack of opportunities and because I don't agree with that, I'm getting all this bloody flak......It's craziness!
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Ok, while you're typing, i have a question for you.

If your husband were to find himself demoted and/or suffering a salary reduction below his old UK employment and unable to provide a financially beneficial lifestyle for your family, would you stay in Canada or would you head back to the UK?

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Originally Posted by kate 17
...That's exactly what has happened he was laid off so that's why we are going home. I'm being the bread winner for the moment grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Originally Posted by el_richo
And there you have it. You've answered the big question you were looking for. You remain in Canada whilst it's financially beneficial, even though the intellectual and historical offerings are inaccessible. As soon as you're unable to provide a financially beneficial lifestyle, you're leaving.

Interesting
Kate, read the quotes above, paying attention to the highlighted areas, and then give it a rest.

As for my comment on you trying to be something you're not. By that I mean you obviously strive to be an witty intellect but on reading your posts, you're just mediocrity at it's finest, as am I. And y'know, that's ok. Be content with all you have at that given moment, financially, physically, mentally, and intellectually. Who knows, you may even enjoy it. Yes strive for more but don't let your life pass you by while you're looking for it.

Finally, it's ok to lose. It really is.

Now i do hope you stick around because you're entertaining.

Now i need to go for a fry up to sort this hangover out.


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Old May 3rd 2010 | 1:40 am
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This is for you Almost Canadian.

"The pedant is he who finds it impossible to read criticism of himself without immediately reaching for his pen and replying to the effect that the accusation is a gross insult to his person. He is, in effect, a man unable to laugh at himself."—Sigmund Freud, The Ego and the Id.

I apologise, to the grammar police for my stinking spelling and punctuation. I never proof read. I have so little time, that's what your stuck with.
So are you going to answer the following simple questions:

a) Are you a graduate?
b) If the answer to a) is yes, in which subject and when did you graduate?

For example, I graduated in 2000. I hold a LL.B. (Hons). How about you?

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Old May 3rd 2010 | 1:59 am
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Damn. Once again a weekend of gardening and entertaining small people has kept me from an amusing thread.

Kate, do stick around - if only because it's been fun to watch you tie yourself in knots with self-contradictory arguments and lashings of psychobabble. I can't remember now if it was in this thread or one of your others that you failed to appreciate either that the title of Colin Wilson's piece of crapola was a reference to Albert Camus' novel, or that the Cure's "Killing an Arab" was a reference to the same work - and yet you try and come across as some sort of psychology geek. Not terribly impressive, but amusing nonetheless.

For myself: I have a bachelor's degree; read a number of English newspapers and the BBC online; have been a subscriber to Private Eye since my early 20s; listen to a number of Radio4 shows on the BBC iPlayer - in short, would generally consider myself moderately well educated and intelligent, by your criteria. Despite this, I am happy with my life in Canada and see no cause to pack my bags and run back to the UK.

I didn't move to Canada for financial reasons, although I would be less likely to have pursued the opportunity if it had left me significantly worse off. Like Alan, I do pretty much the same job here for the same company that I did in the UK. Impetus for the move came from the fact that both my wife and I have relatives in Canada; I had no particular ties to Britain as a place (I had no strong roots in any one location, having moved around throughout my childhood and youth), and ties to family are easily kept intact through the wonders of modern communication and occasional trips back and forth. Sure, we were able to buy a bigger property here than we had in London; but we could have achieved more or less the same by moving to Basingstoke.
 
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So are you going to answer the following simple questions:

a) Are you a graduate?
b) If the answer to a) is yes, in which subject and when did you graduate?

For example, I graduated in 2000. I hold a LL.B. (Hons). How about you?
Ooh, you youngster, you. I had you pegged for an early 90s graduation, at latest

On edit: or were you a mature student, doing the legal stuff post-Forces?
 
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Err, no, I don't think you do.

Perhaps dbd33 wil be in a mood to explain in the morning.
I'm afraid not. Quo marches on though, he's soon found under his nick du jour.
 
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Originally Posted by Oakvillian
For myself: I have a bachelor's degree; read a number of English newspapers and the BBC online; have been a subscriber to Private Eye since my early 20s; listen to a number of Radio4 shows on the BBC iPlayer - in short, would generally consider myself moderately well educated and intelligent, by your criteria. Despite this, I am happy with my life in Canada and see no cause to pack my bags and run back to the UK
I think we may very possibly be the same person. Or long lost twins.

I graduated from a Poly (remember them?) in 1990. I will graduate all over again next year all being well from a provincial Canadian university with a Masters.
 


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