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MartinLuther Jun 29th 2007 11:39 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by arkon (Post 4988622)
God is currently conversing with Abram, Seems like god doesn't seem to mind slavery. And there was me thinking it was wrong to have slaves.

Just wait till you get to the story about Jacob (grandson of Abraham) conning his brother Esau out of his birthright. I can remember the RE teacher glossing over the dodgy morality underlying this story.

birdynumnum Jun 29th 2007 11:51 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by arkon (Post 4989538)
The whole thing, I've even got a bookmark LOL. I read a few pages in between waiting for the computer to do things. So far there have been some right boring bits about who shagged who and gave birth to who.

I have to say, I am going to stick with it as it is increasing my understanding of the religious type no end. Personally based on what little i've read so far, you just must be a little sick in the head if you read it and actually believe in god as a result. Beats me how it could make anyone believe. I have a theory as to why people lived to 905 years old etc. let's say you lived a couple of thousand years ago before computer records and diarys. You guess the year say Abram was born, so you can write a story about him, you then have no idea when he really died but you guess based on something you read it was near another historical event say 900 years later, so what the heck he must have been 900!

I think what now amazes me most is people become religious based on the bible fundamentally, even tho they havn't read or understand it. Yet the book is a load of tosh.

Mmmmm.... true, but they have the believers gene - faith, trust, need & gulliblilty all rolled into one. Even if they did read it they'd believe it, thats the thing isnt it - no talking sense to em, batty as brushes.
Probably only the odd person has read the whole thing. One thing you can take away from your time here

So how did you come to possess a bible? Did you bring it with you?
Did you nick it from a hotel?
Kind of curious.
Must say this thread has me thinking I should have a read as I havent for many many moons. Talking of which, its a blue moon 2nite

PS Lesleys - good link!

themerlin Jun 30th 2007 12:02 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 
Maybe god was a woman, PMT ;)



Originally Posted by arkon (Post 4988612)

The next major injustice is Babylon! The people were getting on great, doing no harm, just building a city with a tower in it. For some reason thins pissed off god and he made them all speak different languages and spread them over the earth. Now why exactly did he punish them?


iPom Jun 30th 2007 12:06 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by themerlin (Post 4989701)
Maybe god was a woman, PMT ;)

Maybe he was just a bloke.

Explains everything.

birdynumnum Jun 30th 2007 12:15 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by iPom (Post 4989711)
Maybe he was just a bloke.

Explains everything.

:thumbup:

Mystery solved :)

themerlin Jun 30th 2007 12:30 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 
Nah being a woman would piss the catholic church off no end :)

Originally Posted by iPom (Post 4989711)
Maybe he was just a bloke.

Explains everything.


MartinLuther Jun 30th 2007 1:03 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by themerlin (Post 4989773)
Nah being a woman would piss the catholic church off no end :)

Just wait till they find out that she's black as well :lol:

moneypenny20 Jun 30th 2007 1:11 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by MartinLuther (Post 4989868)
Just wait till they find out that she's black as well :lol:

Is she allowed to be gay as well? May as well go for the holy trinity.

arkon Jun 30th 2007 1:28 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by birdynumnum (Post 4989671)
Mmmmm.... true, but they have the believers gene - faith, trust, need & gulliblilty all rolled into one. Even if they did read it they'd believe it, thats the thing isnt it - no talking sense to em, batty as brushes.
Probably only the odd person has read the whole thing. One thing you can take away from your time here

So how did you come to possess a bible? Did you bring it with you?
Did you nick it from a hotel?
Kind of curious.
Must say this thread has me thinking I should have a read as I havent for many many moons. Talking of which, its a blue moon 2nite

PS Lesleys - good link!

I got the bible because I forgot to opt for the non religious version of the citizenship ceremony. So I had to stand up and swear on the bible. Which turns out was a present from the mayor, even got my name inside the cover! So as well as a pot plant and a medal I also got the much more readable converted to the level of Australian readability and comprehension version of the bible. Just as well because I don't think I could read a proper one with big ye olde words.

arkon Jun 30th 2007 1:30 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 4989889)
Is she allowed to be gay as well? May as well go for the holy trinity.

No more likely a black, lesbian alien!

birdynumnum Jun 30th 2007 1:41 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by arkon (Post 4989946)
I got the bible because I forgot to opt for the non religious version of the citizenship ceremony. So I had to stand up and swear on the bible. Which turns out was a present from the mayor, even got my name inside the cover! So as well as a pot plant and a medal I also got the much more readable converted to the level of Australian readability and comprehension version of the bible. Just as well because I don't think I could read a proper one with big ye olde words.


I cant believe you got a bible thrown in, thats brilliant, bizzare but brilliant.
I dont remember the bible swearers getting a bible at mine, never got a pot plant or medal either though.
Its quite funny the way you're split though so you sit seperately depending on your allegiance to the the *bog book & god

*that was meant to be big book, an accidental slip of the hand whilst typing which seemed best to leave

why Jun 30th 2007 1:43 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by birdynumnum (Post 4989983)
I cant believe you got a bible thrown in, thats brilliant, bizzare but brilliant.
I dont remember the bible swearers getting a bible at mine, never got a pot plant or medal either though.
Its quite funny the way you're split though so you sit seperately depending on your allegiance to the the bog book & god

i got a teaspoon and a badge.....bit like blue peter!!!!

birdynumnum Jun 30th 2007 1:53 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by why (Post 4989991)
i got a teaspoon and a badge.....bit like blue peter!!!!

:)
excellent stuff. a teaspoon, was it engraved.
I got the offer of a manky sandwich

Imbued Jun 30th 2007 10:55 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by arkon (Post 4955476)
So true. A true god would not want you to suffer just because he did. As the fanatics tell us, God is the father and creator, what decent farther want's pain and suffering for his children just because he stubbed a toe once or twisted his back whilst planting the apple tree in Eden. It's just an excuse they give because if there really was a god, then there would be no pain and suffering, mankind wouldn't be bad to each other either as that's clearly a design flaw. If HE created us with such a fundamental flaw then he made a mistake and God's don't make mistakes do they.

The problem is not the bible, its what the churches are focusing on, that suffering to becomes good, they will never talk about jesus and mary's, teachings to each other, on how to purify yourselves, to ascend into the heavens, the crusifixtion , was not the message,but part of it, but the real message is not told fully, how to transform yourself into a pure energy being, many tibetian monks also believe this, the quest to become pure, so you can transform into an eternal being of pure energy, self sustaining. thats a message churches will never touch, yet its present in all realigons. Hinduism aswell, Egyptian, they all teach this.

MartinLuther Jun 30th 2007 11:11 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by Imbued (Post 4991723)
The problem is not the bible, its what the churches are focusing on, that suffering to becomes good, they will never talk about jesus and mary's, teachings to each other, on how to purify yourselves, to ascend into the heavens, the crusifixtion , was not the message,but part of it, but the real message is not told fully, how to transform yourself into a pure energy being, many tibetian monks also believe this, the quest to become pure, so you can transform into an eternal being of pure energy, self sustaining. thats a message churches will never touch, yet its present in all realigons. Hinduism aswell, Egyptian, they all teach this.

Unfortunately, in Buddhism, it's only available to men. Not quite the cuddly lovely religion everyone makes it out to be.


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