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Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Originally Posted by arkon
(Post 5002957)
Cresta, even if carbon dating were inacurate it can't be THAT inaccurate I mean that's a 125 million year margin. Anyhow I thought there was a second more reliable method now of dating and using the two combined methods still gives dates in the millions of years.
I too think religion is all about control, look at what's happening in the world today, as religion shrinks as a control method due to science and man's awakening from the dark ages, we are quickly replacing it with new forms of control, dare I say 'the war on terrorism', CCtv cameras, new draconian laws all thinly desguised as helping us but in reality just another form of control. Joking aside, I'm fascinated by the creative talents of ancient civilizations. How does that come into this thread? Well the idea of life from another solar system for instance. Why do we pray to "God above"? Why did ancient civilizations all pray to gods in the sky? Take as an example the Great Pyramids; one has a 100mm square shaft descending into the inner chamber that on one day every 11 years or so shows a certain star in part of a constellation. Now how the hell did a few hundred different masons manage to create such an accurate shaft in the first place? Did they have technology that was lost along with them? How about the ancient carved heads on the Easter Islands where they really the work of a few blokes with primitive tools? The Quartz skull old Arthur C C used to rave about? So many things that we with all our modern technology cannot just explain away do support a theory that just maybe we were assisted by persons unknown to make that leap in evolution. Or were we once far more advanced and suffered a backward step? Far to much to contemplate at this time of night:unsure: |
Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Originally Posted by cresta57
(Post 5003100)
Your reading far to much George Orwell mate;) Me too:eek:
Joking aside, I'm fascinated by the creative talents of ancient civilizations. How does that come into this thread? Well the idea of life from another solar system for instance. Why do we pray to "God above"? Why did ancient civilizations all pray to gods in the sky? Take as an example the Great Pyramids; one has a 100mm square shaft descending into the inner chamber that on one day every 11 years or so shows a certain star in part of a constellation. Now how the hell did a few hundred different masons manage to create such an accurate shaft in the first place? Did they have technology that was lost along with them? How about the ancient carved heads on the Easter Islands where they really the work of a few blokes with primitive tools? The Quartz skull old Arthur C C used to rave about? So many things that we with all our modern technology cannot just explain away do support a theory that just maybe we were assisted by persons unknown to make that leap in evolution. Or were we once far more advanced and suffered a backward step? Far to much to contemplate at this time of night:unsure: I'm sure the shaft wouldn't have been too difficult to the mathematicians of that time. It's surprising what you can do with a few simple tools. I've seen many TV programmes that recreate/investigate the methods that would have been used on ancient monuments). I don't know anything about the quartz skull - have you got any links? There are several instances of backwards steps in recorded history (i.e. the dark ages) so it's probable that there have been some backward steps in pre-history. :) |
Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Some more Dawkins. Says it all for me ...
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Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Originally Posted by Hutch
(Post 5005690)
As for the previous couple of posts about visitations from the stars, then this reminds me of Chariots of the gods by Eric von Danniken. Now, I know that much of what he talks about is absolute tosh, but it does certainly make you think about things in a different light. S |
Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Originally Posted by Hutch
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Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Originally Posted by arkon
(Post 4946323)
Here endeth the reading, Life in Oz is so interesting I'm reading the bible for entertainment! Best go buy the bible then eh??:D |
Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Here's an interesting one that I came across on Physorg today. Very pertinent to our discussion. Notice it says 1 million year old tooth, and not 4300 year old tooth...
http://www.physorg.com/news102339776.html S |
Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Don't know if this has been posted but its well worth watching, certainly doesn't help the believers!
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay...81422995115331 |
Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Originally Posted by caleb2003
(Post 5006153)
Don't know if this has been posted but its well worth watching, certainly doesn't help the believers!
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay...81422995115331 |
Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Originally Posted by caleb2003
(Post 5006153)
Don't know if this has been posted but its well worth watching, certainly doesn't help the believers!
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay...81422995115331 if the baddies succeed in their end goals I'm not so sure it's all that bad. Anyone else watched the whole 2 hours worth? |
Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Originally Posted by arkon
(Post 5006434)
BACK.... Cool movie, essential veiwing I think, ok so they probably took a lot out context to make their point, but personally
if the baddies succeed in their end goals I'm not so sure it's all that bad. Anyone else watched the whole 2 hours worth? |
Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Originally Posted by arkon
(Post 5006434)
BACK.... Cool movie, essential veiwing I think, ok so they probably took a lot out context to make their point, but personally
if the baddies succeed in their end goals I'm not so sure it's all that bad. Anyone else watched the whole 2 hours worth? |
Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Originally Posted by MartinLuther
(Post 5003298)
Unless your talking about long periods of time (in the 10's of thousands of years) the heavens repeat themselves on a regular basis. Stars coming above the horizon at certain times of the year, constellations appearing at certain points, etc... Therefore the heavens were seen as perfect and thus the domain of gods especially compared to the less than perfect cycles of the earth. Add in thunderstorms and other natural phenomena and disasters and it's not hard to see where the concepts of gods comes from. Add in politics and the trappings of power over your fellow man and hey presto you've got religion.
I'm sure the shaft wouldn't have been too difficult to the mathematicians of that time. It's surprising what you can do with a few simple tools. I've seen many TV programmes that recreate/investigate the methods that would have been used on ancient monuments). I don't know anything about the quartz skull - have you got any links? There are several instances of backwards steps in recorded history (i.e. the dark ages) so it's probable that there have been some backward steps in pre-history. :) Here's a link to the site I found while looking for an update to the 1970's book by Arthur C Clarke I had been reading recently. The Skull featured as the cover photo of his book. World Mystery |
Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Originally Posted by rossifumi
(Post 4946633)
I like this bit...'To the woman he said, "I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you'.
Genesis, Ch 3 V 16. Cos jesus he knows me And he knows Im right Ive been talking to jesus all my life Oh yes he knows me And he knows I'm right And hes been telling me Everything is alright Genesis 1992 Top mate....top!!! LMAO!!:D |
Re: The first mistake in the bible!
Originally Posted by cresta57
(Post 5006603)
The skull I was initially referring to is named the Mitchell-Hedges skull, now allegedly a late 18th century fake, it's not been available for examination by electron microscope as some of the other skulls have been.
Here's a link to the site I found while looking for an update to the 1970's book by Arthur C Clarke I had been reading recently. The Skull featured as the cover photo of his book. World Mystery :) |
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