Some attention please!
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I haven't read all the posts (yes, I know I should!) but if you've moved back to the UK, then isn't the GC invalid?
When you do figure out how to get back over here, I will say that my husband had a very hard time finding a job, initially. He put out his cv to seemingly hundreds of positions, without a reply. He did get shortlisted for one job, that kept us waiting for a few good months, only to find out he wasn't hired and we waited all that time. At any rate, we moved to Seattle (well the burbs) and gave it a shot there. While my husband was waiting (and submitting more cv's) he took a very menial job at Fry's. His thought was it looked much better to be employed (while waiting for the right job) then not and of course it was to offset our dwindling nest egg. In the end he only worked for Fry's for 3 months (thankfully!!) and became a contractor for Cingular and now works permanently for them and has been for almost 2 years.
In the end its very very very hard and can be demoralizing waiting for that elusive job, but perhaps trying temp agencies (seemed to work for my husband) might help. Good luck!
When you do figure out how to get back over here, I will say that my husband had a very hard time finding a job, initially. He put out his cv to seemingly hundreds of positions, without a reply. He did get shortlisted for one job, that kept us waiting for a few good months, only to find out he wasn't hired and we waited all that time. At any rate, we moved to Seattle (well the burbs) and gave it a shot there. While my husband was waiting (and submitting more cv's) he took a very menial job at Fry's. His thought was it looked much better to be employed (while waiting for the right job) then not and of course it was to offset our dwindling nest egg. In the end he only worked for Fry's for 3 months (thankfully!!) and became a contractor for Cingular and now works permanently for them and has been for almost 2 years.
In the end its very very very hard and can be demoralizing waiting for that elusive job, but perhaps trying temp agencies (seemed to work for my husband) might help. Good luck!
#107
It does depend on the field. In mine, <imaginary job hunter> would be out of luck. I won't offer an interview without first calling refs. The interview will cost me or my boss >$2000 in expenses, and several hours of about eight people's salaries that they would still have to charge to their usual work.
#108
Previous employers and references are not the same thing.
Previous employers are just that, the name of the company you worked for. Generally, individuals names are not listed.
References are specific persons who you are giving them permission to contact, and discuss you with.
I think there is even some law (at least there was) regarding what a previous employer could say - I'll go look for it.
Previous employers are just that, the name of the company you worked for. Generally, individuals names are not listed.
References are specific persons who you are giving them permission to contact, and discuss you with.
I think there is even some law (at least there was) regarding what a previous employer could say - I'll go look for it.
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"In this increasingly litigious world, previous employers are loathe to discuss their real experiences with a former employee. Many employees have successfully sued previous employers for releasing damaging information. So, how do you walk the line between not doing anything at all, and making a diligent effort to verify employment records?
Your first step is to issue the employment candidate a form that gives you permission to verify employment records, and gives previous employers the right to release that information. Ideally, the employee should be required to sign this form in the presence of a Notary Public"
I think often they will only verify that the person was employed there. So not necessarily worth the effort making the call, you can always fire the person if they don't work out.
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Yup. My husband doesn't give out references. All he does is confirm that they worked there from such and such a time.
I don't know of anyone that gives out references in case they're sued anymore.
I don't know of anyone that gives out references in case they're sued anymore.
#112
Got to be careful with that one - in my field that's often seen as a lack of real interest in the position. The reason is that when someone reads your résumé and finds it interesting, they will typically do one of three things...
a) Call a reference to decide if it is worth calling you back.
b) File it under 'purgatory' if they don't have someone to call.
c) Give it to the admin types to follow up on, who will forget it in the trash as they have no interest in you getting a job.
Having said that, this becomes an issue for the Mr. OP if his references are in the UK. IMHO, I would still give the references, but stress contact by email if possible.
a) Call a reference to decide if it is worth calling you back.
b) File it under 'purgatory' if they don't have someone to call.
c) Give it to the admin types to follow up on, who will forget it in the trash as they have no interest in you getting a job.
Having said that, this becomes an issue for the Mr. OP if his references are in the UK. IMHO, I would still give the references, but stress contact by email if possible.
In my field, it's all about your portfolio, either physical or on a website, if there interested they'll ask for references to make sure you ain't inched the work off someone else
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...he did all that...Absolutely everything!
My husband even payed $4000 to an Employment Advisor to help him with the interview hints and techniques and his resume , how to search for jobs etc.etc..Nothing , nothing worked!
That is why we are so demoralized...
My husband even payed $4000 to an Employment Advisor to help him with the interview hints and techniques and his resume , how to search for jobs etc.etc..Nothing , nothing worked!
That is why we are so demoralized...
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He should be careful to use American spelling, lol we don't realise there is anything else and they'd presume he didn't know how to spell otherwise.
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Has he asked anyone what the problem was? I am surprised it was that hard. If there's something about him they are having a problem with.... I really can't imagine.
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Guys, guys..!
I'll have the baby here, that's for sure, by hook or by crook
as obviously here NHS is free (and sucks!) and I am not employed currently in the States, nor I plan to be for at least first three months after the baby is born...
And yes, I had a great insurance in States....Oh those were the days...
I'll have the baby here, that's for sure, by hook or by crook
as obviously here NHS is free (and sucks!) and I am not employed currently in the States, nor I plan to be for at least first three months after the baby is born...And yes, I had a great insurance in States....Oh those were the days...
#120
true...but then your out massive costs, wasted time paying for a melon, wasted productivity not having someone good, cost of relocation/sign up, cost of advertising a position (gamasutra starts at $500 for a simple text advert), etc, etc...





