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Re: 2020 Election
So far there has been one in the NYT
CNN zero WaPo zero MSNBC zero Blasey Ford, circa 100 in each. |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 12837647)
So far there has been one in the NYT
CNN zero WaPo zero MSNBC zero Blasey Ford, circa 100 in each. |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 12837528)
Makes the VP pick super important.
I hope Biden drops out and Bernie becomes the Dem candidate. Then we have a clear choice between Trumps policies and Bernie's. |
Re: 2020 Election
Then we have a clear choice between Trumps policies and Bernie's.​​​​​​ The majority of the electorate do not want a Democratic Socialist to be President, myself included. |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
(Post 12837649)
What's your view on the NY Times article?
The seven other women who had complained about Mr. Biden told the Times this month that they did not have any new information about their experiences to add, but several said they believed Ms. Reade’s account.Lucy Flores, a former Nevada state assemblywoman who accused Mr. Biden of making her uncomfortable by kissing and touching her during a 2014 campaign event, exchanged a few emails last year with Ms. Reade but said Ms. Reade did not share her full story. “Biden is not just a hugger,†Ms. Flores said. “Biden very clearly was invading women’s spaces without their consent in a way that made them feel uncomfortable. Does he potentially have the capacity to go beyond that? That’s the answer everyone is trying to get at.†Obviously I have no idea what happened, and that is not really the issue at hand. In simple terms this does not seem that different to the ones against Trump, the coverage is vastly different. This is what Joe said: For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not it’s been made worse or better over time. |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by civilservant
(Post 12837658)
I sincerely hope you're joking. Trump will win in a landslide.
The majority of the electorate do not want a Democratic Socialist to be President, myself included. |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by civilservant
(Post 12837658)
I sincerely hope you're joking. Trump will win in a landslide.
The majority of the electorate do not want a Democratic Socialist to be President, myself included. Does that mean you prefer Trump to Sanders? Sanders would not be able to push through many of his policies, but it would be a step in the right direction. Unless you like the way the country and the world is heading under Trump. |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 12837662)
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/u...gtype=Homepage
The seven other women who had complained about Mr. Biden told the Times this month that they did not have any new information about their experiences to add, but several said they believed Ms. Reade’s account.Lucy Flores, a former Nevada state assemblywoman who accused Mr. Biden of making her uncomfortable by kissing and touching her during a 2014 campaign event, exchanged a few emails last year with Ms. Reade but said Ms. Reade did not share her full story. “Biden is not just a hugger,†Ms. Flores said. “Biden very clearly was invading women’s spaces without their consent in a way that made them feel uncomfortable. Does he potentially have the capacity to go beyond that? That’s the answer everyone is trying to get at.†Obviously I have no idea what happened, and that is not really the issue at hand. In simple terms this does not seem that different to the ones against Trump, the coverage is vastly different. This is what Joe said: For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not it’s been made worse or better over time. Are Fox News not giving this the airtime you want to see? If not, then I would assume that speaks volumes. |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by Steerpike
(Post 12837688)
I think the big, big difference here is, Biden is accused of being a hugger and a kisser; Trump was caught on tape admitting to 'pussy grabbing'. Now, Biden's behavior is certainly no longer considered 'socially acceptable' nor politically correct, but I honestly see him as just an old fashioned guy who did not have sexual desires with these women - specifically, he did not plan or expect to sleep with them or have sex with them.
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Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by johnwoo
(Post 12837686)
The majority of the electorate doesn't know it's head from it's ass.
Does that mean you prefer Trump to Sanders? Sanders would not be able to push through many of his policies, but it would be a step in the right direction. Unless you like the way the country and the world is heading under Trump. Bernie would be a electoral disaster. |
Re: 2020 Election
Dems and people who dislike Trump will do their best to put those Biden accusations out of their minds. Just like Repubs and Trumpters put his outrageous statements and accusations out of their minds. For both sides, "the stakes are too high." A few troubling black marks are not enough for them to switch to the opposition, whose policies and values they find abhorrent.
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Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by civilservant
(Post 12837697)
I would never vote for Sanders. So yes, by extension, I prefer Trump.
Bernie would be a electoral disaster. Although given, as stated a little earlier, most polls give Sanders ahead against Trump, what do you base your believe that Trump would win on? Regional voting differences? |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by HDWill
(Post 12837702)
Dems and people who dislike Trump will do their best to put those Biden accusations out of their minds. Just like Repubs and Trumpters put his outrageous statements and accusations out of their minds. For both sides, "the stakes are too high." A few troubling black marks are not enough for them to switch to the opposition, whose policies and values they find abhorrent.
https://arcdigital.media/joe-bidens-...a-a8d16bbe0ddd Joe Biden’s #MeToo KarmaThe sexual assault accusation against Biden is not particularly credible. But Democrats’ embrace of “Believe women†puts them in a bind. |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by civilservant
(Post 12837697)
I would never vote for Sanders. So yes, by extension, I prefer Trump.
Bernie would be a electoral disaster. I'm curious as to why anyone would vote for Trump under any circumstances. |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by johnwoo
(Post 12837713)
What is it that you like about Trump, What good can anyone see in Trump?
I'm curious as to why anyone would vote for Trump under any circumstances. |
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