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johnwoo Apr 12th 2020 11:32 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12837705)
Yup

https://arcdigital.media/joe-bidens-...a-a8d16bbe0ddd

Joe Biden’s #MeToo Karma

The sexual assault accusation against Biden is not particularly credible. But Democrats’ embrace of “Believe women” puts them in a bind.


I guess we could start a war of the Magazine Articles.

Orange King COVID


The Orange King

scrubbedexpat099 Apr 12th 2020 11:36 am

Re: 2020 Election
 
Well the Repubs were basically stuck with Trump, the Dems were not, they had an open if not free choice, so why go with Biden?

johnwoo Apr 12th 2020 11:43 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12837714)
I assume most people, especially with this sort of choice, vote against things, Trumps policies are not that different to wht the Dems were doing 20 years ago, he has been a Dem for most of his life after all. Not everybody went woke.

So let's try something different.

johnwoo Apr 12th 2020 11:44 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12837720)
Well the Repubs were basically stuck with Trump, the Dems were not, they had an open if not free choice, so why go with Biden?

They aren't stuck with Trump, they adore him

If Biden steps down?

scrubbedexpat099 Apr 12th 2020 11:46 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by johnwoo (Post 12837723)
So let's try something different.

That was an option. Why was it not taken.

civilservant Apr 12th 2020 11:51 am

Re: 2020 Election
 
I'm a pure centrist in almost all things - Trump is closer to me than Bernie.

johnwoo Apr 12th 2020 1:09 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 12837728)
I'm a pure centrist in almost all things - Trump is closer to me than Bernie.

I couldn't be further away from Trump than if he was in another Galaxy.. (GN-z11) the most distant known galaxy. (Googled}

carcajou Apr 12th 2020 3:50 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by zzrmark (Post 12837586)
The fact that Trump hasn't jumped on this like a tramp with a sandwich speaks volumes.

He will. Now is not the time. Feinstein sat on Blasey Ford's allegations for two months, until it was politically convenient.


Originally Posted by johnwoo (Post 12837655)
Good news for Bernie supporters.
I hope Biden drops out and Bernie becomes the Dem candidate. Then we have a clear choice between Trumps policies and Bernie's.

Stand-up comedy. Turn it up.

If Biden drops out, that doesn't mean his delegates go to Sanders or that the person who stayed in the second-longest gets the nomination. Biden will either give his delegates an instruction to coalesce around someone else (unlikely to be accepted by the party), or his delegates will be released unconditionally and probably a special nominating process will be held like the old days.

They won't coalesce around Sanders. Bernie Sanders, Mr 29%, is done. Like an orange rind that's had all its juice squeezed out of it.

He'll keep running for everything and everything, of course, like Harold Stassen. But to diminishing returns from here on out.


Originally Posted by Steerpike (Post 12837688)
I think the big, big difference here is, Biden is accused of being a hugger and a kisser;

No - Reade's allegation is that Biden finger-raped her in 1993.

zzrmark Apr 12th 2020 4:11 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12837690)
I am not going to go into Tara's accusations, just that it is beyond hugging and kissing, Trump is not a nice guy and comes across badly, but not sure he meant with the pussy grabbing is what he physically did, just a nasty turn of phrase.

Presumably what you are really trying to get across is that the American voter has a choice of which type of sexual predator they wish to vote for. On the one side multiple allegations of unwanted sex and on the other multiple allegations of inappropriate touching (although I'd say that ms Reade was probably a little brief in her original allegation given her most recent update), the result being that many of us will mutter about the DC swamp and not bother to vote in November, while those good Christian types throw their weight behind the rapist again.

We had an excellent offering of candidates this time round and still end up with two old white men with outdated attitudes who think with their dicks, nice one America.

Steerpike Apr 12th 2020 4:23 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by johnwoo (Post 12837723)
So let's try something different.


Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12837726)
That was an option. Why was it not taken.

You guys seem to be making this much more difficult than it really is. It seems obvious to me. More democrats voted for Biden in the primaries than voted for Sanders, and by a fairly decent margin. That's why Biden was the choice.

Now ... why is that? I think there's two fairly obvious reasons.
1) The democrats are not ready for the brand of 'socialism' (or call it what you like, doesn't matter) that Sanders was pushing - medicare for all, free education, etc etc. I mean - he made it real clear what he was pushing for, and they didn't vote for him, so it's hard to argue that one.
2) They might be willing to accept the path Sanders was proposing, but they felt that strategically, it was better to vote for Biden because they felt that Sanders would get creamed by Trump and the Republicans in the general.

Regarding #2, yes, current polls show Sanders beating Trump but ... Trump has not yet turned up his big war machine to try to discredit his opponent. It won't take much talk of higher taxes, government takeover, government waste, government ... blah blah blah to scare a whole bunch of independents away from Sanders. Biden, being more moderate, is less of a target here.

I voted for Biden in the primary mainly due to #2.

Ingles Apr 12th 2020 11:50 pm

Re: 2020 Election
 
It been reported that Trump "retweeted" a tweet Ref : - "Fire Fauci"
Pay back for standing up too him one can only assume !
What a effing sleazy bag off efluente Trump is !

scrubbedexpat099 Apr 13th 2020 1:18 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Coronavirus: At least two NHS hospitals trialling anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine hailed by Trump

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-a9461671.html

This amused me, especially as it was in the Indy where TDS is supreme.

Nutmegger Apr 13th 2020 1:26 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12838006)

Coronavirus: At least two NHS hospitals trialling anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine hailed by Trump

.

On that topic, a related drug hasn't done too well in Brazil:

Trial ended in Brazil after patients developed irregular heart rates

scrubbedexpat099 Apr 13th 2020 1:33 am

Re: 2020 Election
 
I assume the NHS are not doing it unless they think there is some merit, I doubt they would do it on the basis of a few Trump tweets, well hopefully they would not.

I assume there must be a threshold before anything is trialed as to its likely success.

I also presume that the vast majority of trials will fail, just need one that does not. I did wonder if it fell into the category of the common cold, they have never found a cure for that.

Giantaxe Apr 13th 2020 4:51 am

Re: 2020 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12838006)

Coronavirus: At least two NHS hospitals trialling anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine hailed by Trump

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-a9461671.html

This amused me, especially as it was in the Indy where TDS is supreme.

If you can't see the difference between a hospital-controlled trial - presumably part of the large-scale WHO trial that started in February - and Trump's pronouncements on the subject, then you trolling again. But you knew that.

"How false hope spread about hydroxychloroquine to treat covid-19 — and the consequences that followed"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-consequences/


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