scrubbedexpat099

Why I Can No Longer Support Hillary Clinton | Huffington Post

Nutmegger

Isn't the hypocrisy that Trump turns a blind eye to his wife's transgressions, but not to those of impoverished people who are just trying to survive?

dakota44

Blah blah blah

dc koop

So put quite simply the other choice is a buffoon with little or no knowledge of world affairs, a formidable ego, a short attention span, used to getting his way and his finger on the nuclear trigger : Great alternative

dc koop

Trump's the bigger hypocrite of the two. No argument there but the US doesn't exist to solve the problems of a hugely corrupt. mismanaged country like Mexico

sir_eccles

I've mentioned the grandfather in law a couple of times up thread. Anyway, in one of my back and forth email exchanges trying to convince him that Trump is a shitstain he revealed that he decided to only vote the local ticket.

Meanwhile the father in law has been sitting in his new snow bird house here in AZ. Don't think he is with it enough to arrange a postal vote and is probably grateful that he doesn't have to decide.

One wonders how many Republicans are thinking similarly.

Steerpike

Since you didn't say who you were quoting, I had to waste some time visiting the HuffPo site. It's a nobody. But I did see that he said this also: "I’m not telling you not to vote for her. I’m aware of what is at stake. The Supreme Court and a petulant man-child that might quicken the apocalypse, I know. I’m telling you that I’m no longer endorsing her. Vote with your conscience. Vote strategically. Or don’t. It’s your prerogative."

Honestly, was that worth bringing to our attention ... ?

Steerpike

So, fellow posters, what do y'all think is going to happen in the election - regardless of your personal preferences? We have only a few days to go (!!! at last !!!). It seems rather pointless to be posting what we personally think the virtues and drawbacks are of either candidate at this point, but there's still mileage in the analysis / prediction process. I sure hope Leslie doesn't lose her internet access over the next few days as she knows the process better than anyone.

I'm not seeing any devastating blows to Clinton, nor am I seeing any new revelations about Trump (though we have a couple of days ...). The 538 site has shown a significant drop in Clinton's lead, but she's still ahead 64/36%. They are showing Nevada, Arizona, Florida, North Carolina, Iowa and Ohio all voting Republican at this point, but Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, and Colorado are all still Democrat.

As of now, Hilary is showing 291 Electoral Votes to Trump's 246, and the popular vote breakdown is 48/45.

I'm reading that Hillary's ground game is going to be the key now; she's enlisting the heavy hitters to get out the vote.

On a less encouraging note, 538 is showing the Dem's chances of getting control of the senate at only 50.2% (down from 68% on Nov 2). Nevada and New Hampshire are hanging by a thread on the Dem side; without those, the Senate stays R.

ETA - just saw this article - looks like HuffPo has Hillary a near certainty (98%) and is criticising Nate Silver's 538 approach. Interesting.

celticgrid

I will tell you exactly what will happen. The population will get the president they deserve.

RoadWarriorFromLP

That's a pretty lousy point, given the topic.

The Republican candidate who is running on a platform of immigrant bashing and tighter border controls is married to a woman who violated US immigration law. Your response is to get upset with the Democrats. Did the Democrats force Donald Trump to be a hypocrite or to marry someone who broke US immigration laws?

You have a lot of ideas swirling around in your head, but they are contradictory. Either you have an issue with immigration or you don't. It seems that you don't dislike immigration per se, but that you dislike immigrants who don't look like you.

RoadWarriorFromLP

Trump's path to 270 is next to impossible. He would have to win every single swing state in order to win the election, and that ain't gonna happen.

On the other hand, the popular vote will be close and it would seem that he may win more electoral votes than either Romney or McCain, which will encourage the GOP whackjob base to continue its efforts to dethrone the establishment. So you may end up with another cartoon character as the GOP nominee in 2020.

Leslie

Wow. You completely mischaracterized the entire situation.

The Democrats and (until the last few election cycles) Republicans have understood the need for immigration reform because the "thousands of illegals" you refer to had no possible way of qualifying for legal status much less citizenship. These are people who needed work and employers wanted them in their workforce. These employers wanted them so bad that even they were willing to break the law.

Melania Trump, much like most of the people on this forum, had legal ways to qualify. Well paid people with influential employers have always had legal pathways --- obviously this is the case with Mrs. Trump because she was able to adjust without being deported or jailed.

The point is not that anybody here is mad at Mrs. Trump but rather disgusted with Mr. Trump's lies and smear campaign against Mexican immigrants. All this while his wife flauts immigration laws. He also hired illegal Polish labor himself and then lied about it.

Also the term "illegals" is a pejorative. You probably know that, I just wanted to let you know that everybody else knows it too.

It sounds like you were an "illegal" for a while yourself. I'm glad you had the means, access, and ability to fix the potential future problems that could have been brought on by your choices. I'm glad that you didn't have to be deported or go to jail for what was obviously a well-intentioned mistake on your part. I mean, surely you had no idea that you weren't supposed to be working right? You would never have intentionally broken the law, right? Or perhaps you did have legal authority to work (while "waiting for your green card") as do most European immigrants ... so actually that story about you and the INS agent has absolutely nothing to do with what we are discussing.

Leslie

This. Don't fall for it. Either he doesn't read the articles himself or he's counting on us not reading them.

scrubbedexpat099

Or had his post edited.

Leslie

It wasn't even a real post. It was a link. And it wasn't edited. I just checked. Thanks for wasting more of my time.