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Old Aug 6th 2016 | 11:19 am
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Originally Posted by dc koop
Trump claims he saw hundreds of Muslims dancing in the streets after 9/11 happened but it wasn't true. Lately he saw a plane taking off for Iran loaded with a few million dollars which were to be used as exchange for hostages and that's not true either.

Can this man who obviously hallucinates and makes up stories that turn out to be fiction be trusted with his finger on the nuclear button ?
There were Muslims overseas dancing in the streets after 9/11, Trump just confused the location, as far as the video I haven't heard the exact comments so I cant judge.

Clinton described as "extremely careless, by director of FBI, hardly any more credible than Trump.

So what is better, someone who speaks without careful thinking, or someone who is a measured but consistent liar ?

Who is more likely to pick a fight ? Seems Trump prefers to improve relations with Russia, he could be considered the safer candidate than Clinton.
 
Old Aug 6th 2016 | 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Can a woman who lies through her teeth be trusted to lead the country?
Trump has been show to be lying about 91% of the time, Hillary a lot lot less.

Originally Posted by morpeth
There were Muslims overseas dancing in the streets after 9/11, Trump just confused the location, as far as the video I haven't heard the exact comments so I cant judge.

Clinton described as "extremely careless, by director of FBI, hardly any more credible than Trump.

So what is better, someone who speaks without careful thinking, or someone who is a measured but consistent liar ?

Who is more likely to pick a fight ? Seems Trump prefers to improve relations with Russia, he could be considered the safer candidate than Clinton.
Trump is heavily in debt to the Russians, of course he wants to be friends. Putin wants him to dismantle NATO and destabilize Europe, everything Trump has said so far seems to confirm he is Putin's lapdog.
 
Old Aug 6th 2016 | 1:24 pm
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
Trump has been show to be lying about 91% of the time, Hillary a lot lot less.

 
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Old Aug 6th 2016 | 5:29 pm
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Hilarious...

Hillary Clinton's file | PolitiFact

Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact
 
Old Aug 6th 2016 | 5:40 pm
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
Well, that is only around 70%....
 
Old Aug 6th 2016 | 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Honestly, I don't care if she lies half the time. It still wouldn't make me cast a vote for the tango man. He's far too unstable.

And I'm a middle class White male living in Florida with my guns.
 
Old Aug 6th 2016 | 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by morpeth
There were Muslims overseas dancing in the streets after 9/11, Trump just confused the location, as far as the video I haven't heard the exact comments so I cant judge.
Confused the location? Lmao.

He confused New Jersey with what, The West Bank? I know Jersey sucks but it's not that bad.
 
Old Aug 6th 2016 | 6:01 pm
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Originally Posted by morpeth
There were Muslims overseas dancing in the streets after 9/11, Trump just confused the location, as far as the video I haven't heard the exact comments so I cant judge.

Clinton described as "extremely careless, by director of FBI, hardly any more credible than Trump.

So what is better, someone who speaks without careful thinking, or someone who is a measured but consistent liar ?

Who is more likely to pick a fight ? Seems Trump prefers to improve relations with Russia, he could be considered the safer candidate than Clinton.
Trump sees Putin as a strongman, much as he himself likes to fantasize about were he in power. You only have to see that Trump speaks in the "I" and not the "we"

There's nothing wrong in improving relations with Russia unless Trump becomes Putin's useful idiot along the way
 
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Can a woman who lies through her teeth be trusted to lead the country?
Well don't all politicians lie? Every leader lies at one time or another. We're not looking for someone like Pope Francis to lead the nation just someone who may lie but not potentially ignorant and misinformed enough to run us into a ditch from which the nuclear option comes into play
 
Old Aug 7th 2016 | 1:48 am
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
Trump has been show to be lying about 91% of the time, Hillary a lot lot less.



Trump is heavily in debt to the Russians, of course he wants to be friends. Putin wants him to dismantle NATO and destabilize Europe, everything Trump has said so far seems to confirm he is Putin's lapdog.
I must have missed something, what is the objective evidence that Trump is heavily in debt to the Russians ?

Putin is faced with an organization that is close to his borders that was set up mainly to counter Russia, that has got closer and closer to his borders, combined with the prospect of Eurabia in the future- not saying his actions justified but understandable.
 
Old Aug 7th 2016 | 2:35 am
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Geraldine Ferraro's husband's tax returns were a huge issue and she was the VP pick, not running at the top of the ticket. He resisted but was eventually forced, under duress, to release his returns.

The Clinton's privately, as well as the Clinton Global Initiative, have released their tax returns. The timelines of the donations to CGI have been extensively examined and much scrutiny has been paid to what Hillary was doing at State during the time CGI was accepting funds from foreign powers. This is also how we know so much about how much the Clinton's get paid in speaking fees. This is financial information that, IMO, is our right to know and which has been used against the Clinton's relentlessly and publically.

So, based on the precedent set by the Republican party, not only should we see Donald Trump's tax returns, we should also see Mrs. Trump's tax returns. I actually would like very much to see Mrs.Trump's tax returns as well as his. It's a well known financial/tax scam to hide sketchy financial dealings by putting them in the name of the spouse. She claims to be a businesswoman in her own right so, just like John Zaccaro, we need to see her tax returns.

I realize there are people who don't care about Trump's tax returns. That's fine, they don't have to read them.

The reality of the situation is that we are considering hiring these people to run our country and we have a right to know every little thing about them. Trump chose to leave the private sector and yet he's getting away with deciding what we are permitted to "know" about his financial dealings.

Would you take Clinton's word for the financial dealings of the CGI or her's and Bill's private income?

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I would not take Clinton's word for anything.
 
Old Aug 7th 2016 | 2:39 am
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Originally Posted by Boiler
I would not take Clinton's word for anything.
Which is why we need her tax returns. Which we have.
 
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Which is why we need her tax returns. Which we have.
One of those cases where a financial forensic investigation report would be interesting.

No doubt very little has gone directly though her hands.
 


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