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scrubbedexpat099 Feb 15th 2016 2:22 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 
Bill's latest comments on race should stir the pot.

FlaviusAetius Feb 15th 2016 3:47 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 11868687)
He will.

I imagine he's looking at making a recess appointment. That would be temporary, but not sure how temporary. Would it be until the end of the current session of the Senate? I suppose they would be in session, after their present recess, until the end of the year. If he did that, it would do some damage, for sure.

Further on something RoadWarrior discussed earlier. A deadlocked Supreme Court does mean that the decision in the lower Circuit Court would stand. However, a 4 - 4 decision essentially has no precedential value. That means that another Circuit could come up with an opposite decision (taking up a case similar to the teacher's union case now on appeal from the 9th Circuit, for example) and simply follow the opinion they like best as guidance. There could then be two opposing rulings from the Circuits, which would position a third teacher's union case to go before the Supremes, when they're fully stocked, to settle the contradiction.

Maybe my learned friend, the RoadWarrior, could add to this.

dakota44 Feb 15th 2016 4:00 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius (Post 11868752)
I imagine he's looking at making a recess appointment. That would be temporary, but not sure how temporary. Would it be until the end of the current session of the Senate? I suppose they would be in session, after their present recess, until the end of the year. If he did that, it would do some damage, for sure.

Further on something RoadWarrior discussed earlier. A deadlocked Supreme Court does mean that the decision in the lower Circuit Court would stand. However, a 4 - 4 decision essentially has no precedential value. That means that another Circuit could come up with an opposite decision (taking up a case similar to the teacher's union case now on appeal from the 9th Circuit, for example) and simply follow the opinion they like best as guidance. There could then be two opposing rulings from the Circuits, which would position a third teacher's union case to go before the Supremes, when they're fully stocked, to settle the contradiction.

Maybe my learned friend, the RoadWarrior, could add to this.

A recess appointment is good until the senate convenes in the following session...and they can confirm or deny at that time.

jeepster Feb 15th 2016 4:06 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 11868645)
I am happy with 1 & 3. :thumbup:

Hitting Jeb and W with 9/11 is, in my mind, below the belt. I have never believed, nor bought into any of the conspiracy theories regarding the matter. 9/11 wasn't W's fault any more than it was Clinton's fault. It just happened. Anyhoodles, and the reason I thought to respond specifically, Trump has been on TV doubling down on blaming Bush(s) for 9/11. :lol:

The Bush's are an international crime family. There's been volumes written on them, Kitty Kelley, Kevin Phillips, Russ Baker, just to name a few. And it's about time W started answering for 9-11. He had a free pass on the incident.

Jerseygirl Feb 15th 2016 4:13 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by jeepster (Post 11868768)
The Bush's are an international crime family. There's been volumes written on them, Kitty Kelley, Kevin Phillips, Russ Baker, just to name a few. And it's about time W started answering for 9-11. He had a free pass on the incident.

Both the Bush's and the Clinton's are up to their necks in it. It's time for new blood...whoever or whatever party that should be.

sir_eccles Feb 15th 2016 4:22 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius (Post 11868752)
I imagine he's looking at making a recess appointment. That would be temporary, but not sure how temporary. Would it be until the end of the current session of the Senate? I suppose they would be in session, after their present recess, until the end of the year. If he did that, it would do some damage, for sure.

Sorry to burst your bubble but Obama has already made it clear there will be no recess appointment and he is waiting until they get back. Clearly keeping things above board it is then on Congress to muck it up.

Giantaxe Feb 15th 2016 4:35 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11868774)
Sorry to burst your bubble but Obama has already made it clear there will be no recess appointment and he is waiting until they get back. Clearly keeping things above board it is then on Congress to muck it up.

If I were Obama, I'd fulfill my constitutional obligation by nominating Sri Srinavasan, who was confirmed by a 97-0 vote for the DC circuit. That would leave the Republicans, who didn't have a single dissenting voice, to explain why he can't even get a hearing this time around.

FlaviusAetius Feb 15th 2016 4:51 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 11868782)
If I were Obama, I'd fulfill my constitutional obligation by nominating Sri Srinavasan, who was confirmed by a 97-0 vote for the DC circuit. That would leave the Republicans, who didn't have a single dissenting voice, to explain why he can't even get a hearing this time around.

Much as we usually disagree about everything, we might actually have been better off if you were Obama. Then again...

Giantaxe Feb 15th 2016 4:55 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius (Post 11868788)
Much as we usually disagree about everything, we might actually have been better off if you were Obama. Then again...

He hasn't nominated anyone yet.

FlaviusAetius Feb 15th 2016 5:19 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 11868791)
He hasn't nominated anyone yet.

That was only partially my point.

scrubbedexpat099 Feb 15th 2016 6:05 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 
What is the time frame that the Senate have to consider the nomination?

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 15th 2016 6:59 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 
Has this Rubio ad been mentioned at all?

Vancouver featured in Marco Rubio campaign ad - British Columbia - CBC News



Seems someone doing his ads thinks Vancouver, BC is in the US.....:lol:

scrubbedexpat099 Feb 15th 2016 7:02 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Unless your ancestors, every one of you, are 100 per cent, 100 per cent from sub-Saharan Africa, we are all mixed-race people.
Bill

FlaviusAetius Feb 15th 2016 10:25 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11868859)
Has this Rubio ad been mentioned at all?

Vancouver featured in Marco Rubio campaign ad - British Columbia - CBC News



Seems someone doing his ads thinks Vancouver, BC is in the US.....:lol:

Could be an ominous sign for our good friends in the Great White North.:rofl:

RoadWarriorFromLP Feb 16th 2016 1:23 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 11868679)
Obama should tell the GOP to go **** themselves and nominate someone to replace Scalia. A lame duck president has done that before and in fact it's happened about six times in history. It's not for the republicans to deny him that right

More than likely the GOP majority will shoot it down but it might be some payback for all the grief the racist, do nothing Congress has been handing him for 7 years

The GOP is trying to use Scalia's replacement as a tool for increasing Republican turnout and providing them with a wedge issue. A recess appointment would just help the GOP to use this to their advantage by giving them a reason to unify.

This would also a lousy experience for any of these appointments, who will end up being put through the ringer for what may be no job at all.

Obama et. al. need to figure out how to turn this one around on the Republicans so that it's the Dems who benefit. In the interim, it actually helps the Democrats to have some of these 5-4 decisions turned into 4-4 ties.


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