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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by jeepster
(Post 11868768)
The Bush's are an international crime family. There's been volumes written on them, Kitty Kelley, Kevin Phillips, Russ Baker, just to name a few. And it's about time W started answering for 9-11. He had a free pass on the incident.
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Leslie
(Post 11869781)
Why? They all hate Ted Cruz ... they would love to reject him.
Can you imagine working your way up to the highest position possible in your career, only to be sentenced to work with Ted Cruz for the next twenty or so years? :rofl: |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by username.exe
(Post 11869880)
Supreme Court is a lifetime appointment, too.
Can you imagine working your way up to the highest position possible in your career, only to be sentenced to work with Ted Cruz for the next twenty or so years? :rofl: |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by dc koop
(Post 11869503)
How about a female African-American Federal judge with all the necessary qualifications and a known background of being politically centrist
That should confound the GOP no end The real intention here is to create a common cause to get Republicans to vote. I suspect that there will be quite a few disgruntled Republicans following the convention, and the GOP will need a cause around which to rally lest a large number of them decide not to vote. This is also really an extension of birtherism: The Republicans want to believe that Obama is a foreign agent who has no authority as president, and this is just yet another bogus claim about his lack of authority to act. They'll never accept that Obama was a duly elected president, so Allah forbid that he is allowed to replace Saint Scalia. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Leslie
(Post 11869870)
You lost me at Kitty Kelley.
Here's something from the BBC: BBC - Radio 4 Document - Greenham's Hidden Secret Note reference to Prescott Bush. GW's grandfather. It runs in the family. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
(Post 11869907)
You have to understand that this really has almost nothing to do with the Supreme Court.
The real intention here is to create a common cause to get Republicans to vote. I suspect that there will be quite a few disgruntled Republicans following the convention, and the GOP will need a cause around which to rally lest a large number of them decide not to vote. This is also really an extension of birtherism: The Republicans want to believe that Obama is a foreign agent who has no authority as president, and this is just yet another bogus claim about his lack of authority to act. They'll never accept that Obama was a duly elected president, so Allah forbid that he is allowed to replace Saint Scalia. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
(Post 11869907)
You have to understand that this really has almost nothing to do with the Supreme Court.
The real intention here is to create a common cause to get Republicans to vote. I suspect that there will be quite a few disgruntled Republicans following the convention, and the GOP will need a cause around which to rally lest a large number of them decide not to vote. This is also really an extension of birtherism: The Republicans want to believe that Obama is a foreign agent who has no authority as president, and this is just yet another bogus claim about his lack of authority to act. They'll never accept that Obama was a duly elected president, so Allah forbid that he is allowed to replace Saint Scalia. I suspect the number in the GOP base that this will fire up is less than those in the centre it will turn off. |
Re: 2016 Election
If Hillary is the Dem nominee as I expect and there is somebody half decent on the GOP side I really can not see it being that hard to rally support.
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 11870393)
If Hillary is the Dem nominee as I expect and there is somebody half decent on the GOP side I really can not see it being that hard to rally support.
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by username.exe
(Post 11870416)
At what point are the nominees confirmed for each party? How much longer for this madness?
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by zargof
(Post 11870389)
I'm sure you're right. But I have a feeling it will backfire on them, as it will also remind voters that the GOP is the party of no.
I suspect the number in the GOP base that this will fire up is less than those in the centre it will turn off. Also, the subtext here is that I suspect that the GOP nominee is going to upset a lot of social conservatives and some of them will be unhappy enough not to vote. Turning this election into a battle over the Supreme Court might be enough to keep more of them on board. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 11870393)
If Hillary is the Dem nominee as I expect and there is somebody half decent on the GOP side I really can not see it being that hard to rally support.
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
(Post 11870479)
I doubt that the middle or the left will be as fired up about this as is the right. Social conservatives have figured out that a conservative court is key to their ability to impose their values on others, and they're more excited about bullying than others are about being bullied. So this is a good issue for the GOP.
Also, the subtext here is that I suspect that the GOP nominee is going to upset a lot of social conservatives and some of them will be unhappy enough not to vote. Turning this election into a battle over the Supreme Court might be enough to keep more of them on board. Granted, the GOP don't have much chance anyway with the way demographics are going, so perhaps this is a Hail Mary, and they hope it will work. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by zargof
(Post 11870514)
Yes, but there are no way near enough conservatives for them to win the election. Showing that yet again they aren't willing to even try and govern is going to turn off the middle.
Granted, the GOP don't have much chance anyway with the way demographics are going, so perhaps this is a Hail Mary, and they hope it will work. Just as a matter of history, the GOP really should be the favorite simply because the electorate tends to switch parties following a second-term candidacy (although the electoral map poses real challenges.) But the Republicans have become a fragmented party with its populist wing out of control, and I'm willing to bet that we're going to end up with a brokered convention that is engineered to keep Trump and Cruz out, which will upset their fans. The establishment doesn't like those fans very much, but it needs them if it is to have even the slightest chance of winning. It would be nice to win over swing voters but it may have to take what it can get from the base. |
Re: 2016 Election
It seems Trump may have massively lied about losing hundreds of friends on 9/11 and on donating large quantities of money to help the victims and survivors. The worst lie possible.
Trump Won’t Name Any of the ‘Hundreds of Friends’ He Says Died on 9/11 - The Daily Beast |
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