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dc koop Nov 9th 2016 6:44 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 12100401)
Right. But when things are likely blocked at the federal level, the only way forward is at the state. Even with Clinton as president, nothing on the gun control front would have got through congress.

Would not California have the right to require background checks when purchasing firearms at gun shows ?

Giantaxe Nov 9th 2016 6:46 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 12100412)
Would not California have the right to require background checks when purchasing firearms at gun shows ?

California already requires background checks for gun show purchases.

scrubbedexpat099 Nov 9th 2016 6:48 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
Colorado require that and more stuff.

zargof Nov 9th 2016 7:26 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
This. All of it.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

Democrats need to do an autopsy similar to the GOP from last time. They should reach the conclusion that they actually have to do something to help the people rather their donors, and then they have to follow through, and actually do something about it.

dakota44 Nov 9th 2016 7:56 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 12100462)
This. All of it.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

Democrats need to do an autopsy similar to the GOP from last time. They should reach the conclusion that they actually have to do something to help the people rather their donors, and then they have to follow through, and actually do something about it.

When should Republicans come to that same conclusion about themselves?

Lion in Winter Nov 9th 2016 7:56 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 12100462)
This. All of it.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

Democrats need to do an autopsy similar to the GOP from last time. They should reach the conclusion that they actually have to do something to help the people rather their donors, and then they have to follow through, and actually do something about it.

Good luck with that.

scrubbedexpat099 Nov 9th 2016 7:59 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 12100462)
This. All of it.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

Democrats need to do an autopsy similar to the GOP from last time. They should reach the conclusion that they actually have to do something to help the people rather their donors, and then they have to follow through, and actually do something about it.

If I was a Dem donor and had paid out big time I would be rather unhappy and would be looking for something more substantial in return for future investments.

SultanOfSwing Nov 9th 2016 8:02 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
Do we take solace in the fact that Clinton won the popular vote? That that in itself shows that there is a future for Democrats if the DNC get more in tune with their base?

zargof Nov 9th 2016 8:02 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by dakota44 (Post 12100506)
When should Republicans come to that same conclusion about themselves?

Republicans never claim to be the party of the people. For them it's (supposedly) about lower taxes and freedom.

zargof Nov 9th 2016 8:04 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12100515)
Do we take solace in the fact that Clinton won the popular vote? That that in itself shows that there is a future for Democrats if the DNC get more in tune with their base?

Not really. Unless all those liberals in California are relocating to the Midwest.

RoadWarriorFromLP Nov 9th 2016 8:05 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 12100462)
This. All of it.

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/...son-of-brexit/

Democrats need to do an autopsy similar to the GOP from last time. They should reach the conclusion that they actually have to do something to help the people rather their donors, and then they have to follow through, and actually do something about it.

Not much of it.

Let's remember that she won more votes, she apparently just didn't win them in the right places.

Clinton is bright, but she isn't charismatic or a particularly compelling speaker. I'm willing to bet that Joe Biden would have won, people just like him better.

scrubbedexpat099 Nov 9th 2016 8:05 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 12100517)
Not really. Unless all those liberals in California are relocating to the Midwest.

Quite a few have moved to Colorado, worked here.

SultanOfSwing Nov 9th 2016 8:06 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 12100517)
Not really. Unless all those liberals in California are relocating to the Midwest.

The Midwest will turn blue again with the right candidate to get behind.

Pulaski Nov 9th 2016 8:10 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12100523)
The Midwest will turn blue again with the right candidate to get behind.

With the right candidate it could be red - Reagan turned almost the whole country red. :nod:

Giantaxe Nov 9th 2016 8:12 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12100523)
The Midwest will turn blue again with the right candidate to get behind.

Or if, as I suspect will be the case, Trump does little to resurrect the manufacturing jobs that have been lost from those states.


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