British Expats - 2016 Election

Given a choice I prefer a stoned driver to a drunk. So it seems does the NHTSA. Pot makes one mellow and relaxed. Booze on the other hand often makes one wreckless and aggressive.

"People driving while high on marijuana may be a bit safer than drivers who have consumed alcohol and less likely to have or cause a crash, reveals a new federal study.

Overall, statistics, when adjusted for factors such as age, race and gender, suggest there's little difference between driving stoned or sober when it comes to the risk of having a wreck, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) claims."

I'm glad you bought up NHTSA, as that's who I work for.
I don't know if you read the NPR link I posted earlier, but it said there is not an defective way to test how impaired someone is at this time after smoking marijuana due to the way thc's react with the body.
From the article you referenced.
"The study's findings underscore an important point: that the measurable presence of THC (marijuana's primary active ingredient) in a person's system doesn't correlate with impairment in the same way that blood alcohol concentration does. The NHTSA doesn't mince words: "At the current time, specific drug concentration levels cannot be reliably equated with a specific degree of driver impairment."
I'm sure you can see, as NHTSA does, that this isn't the most reliable of studies.

Giantaxe

Nov 9th 2016 9:08 am

Re: 2016 Election

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12100598)

"Health benefits"? Now you're just being silly.

Try reading my post before making yourself look silly.

I'll ask again- what do you think are the health effects of alcohol and tobacco cigarettes?

Pulaski

Nov 9th 2016 9:08 am

Re: 2016 Election

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Originally Posted by zargof (Post 12100581)

Nobody said cannabis doesn't have risks. But if you accept the risks of alcohol and tobacco, which have been shown to be larger than cannabis, why not accept the risk of cannabis? For a country so enamored with freedom, seems to make sense to me.

Oh, trust me, my libertarian side says, "To hell with it, legalize everything! The war on drugs has long since been lost. The money wasted on interdiction, arrests, prosecution,.and imprisonment are insane. Let's legalize everything, and just tax it." ..... I don't think society is quite ready for that step yet. :unsure:

SultanOfSwing

Nov 9th 2016 9:10 am

Re: 2016 Election

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12100608)

The war on drugs has been lost. Comprehensively.

Legalizing every recreational drug would be a mistake in my mind, but even though I don't like it, won't ever use it again and detest the culture with the passion of a thousand burning suns, I have to concede that dope is probably high up on the list of things we can legalize that can be considered 'mostly harmless'.

Giantaxe

Nov 9th 2016 9:11 am

Re: 2016 Election

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12100608)

And neither should it be, which is why taking a more pragmatic view as to the relative risks of various drugs is a prudent approach.

markonline1

Nov 9th 2016 9:12 am

Re: 2016 Election

It doesn't matter anyway, California has voted, it's going to be made legal and that's that.

SultanOfSwing

Nov 9th 2016 9:14 am

Re: 2016 Election

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Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 12100614)

It doesn't matter anyway, California has voted, it's going to be made legal and that's that.

Enjoy all the sweet, sweet tax revenue :nod:

Giantaxe

Nov 9th 2016 9:17 am

Re: 2016 Election

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Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 12100614)

It doesn't matter anyway, California has voted, it's going to be made legal and that's that.

Unless the Trump administration decides to go after pot users at the federal level, which wouldn't surprise me at all.

markonline1

Nov 9th 2016 9:17 am

Re: 2016 Election

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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12100616)

Enjoy all the sweet, sweet tax revenue :nod:

I sincerely doubt I will see any of it.

SultanOfSwing

Nov 9th 2016 9:19 am

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Originally Posted by markonline1 (Post 12100621)

I sincerely doubt I will see any of it.

I'm pulling for you.

Boiler can confirm, but I think Colorado is kicking arse now since they legalized it.

zargof

Nov 9th 2016 9:30 am

Re: 2016 Election

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Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 12100620)

Unless the Trump administration decides to go after pot users at the federal level, which wouldn't surprise me at all.

Obviously like any position with Trump there's no way to know what he really thinks, but I don't think he really gives a shit about drugs.

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