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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Leslie
(Post 11897733)
You know which prick. :sneaky:
Hey! I don't interfere with your irrational hatred of Hillary so don't interfere with my rational hatred of Trump. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Leslie
(Post 11897738)
Link please.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...llary-clinton/ |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 11897739)
I thought it was Cruz?
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Leslie
(Post 11897745)
He's amorphous, not fat.
So Cruz is now OK? |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 11897747)
Ohh
So Cruz is now OK? |
Re: 2016 Election
Ahh, but I thought Cruz was your number 1 focus?
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 11897762)
Ahh, but I thought Cruz was your number 1 focus?
So, I suppose I've been avoiding this topic. After talking to myself about it, I've decided that Cruz is better than Trump. I'm not a cynical citizen. I believe that political races should be between the best of our people. Unfortunately, the best people don't always put themselves forward. I know there are strategic reasons that make Trump a better option for the Dems but I can't swallow that pill. I think he's bad and wrong and dishonest. Ted Cruz is a shithead right winger but I would trust him more with my life (and in a poetic sense, we do put our lives in the hand of the president) than I would Trump. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Leslie
(Post 11897771)
Ted Cruz is a shithead right winger but I would trust him more with my life (and in a poetic sense, we do put our lives in the hand of the president) than I would Trump.
http://i2.wp.com/moralmatters.org/wp...dAtCaskets.jpg |
Re: 2016 Election
I'm not even going to read that crap. :rolleyes:
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 11897773)
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Leslie
(Post 11897777)
I'm not even going to read that crap. :rolleyes:
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Leslie
(Post 11897771)
.... I know there are strategic reasons that make Trump a better option for the Dems but I can't swallow that pill. ...
1) Would Trump be easier to BEAT in the general than Cruz, and 2) Would Trump be better for the country than Cruz, should one of them actually beat Hillary. I just can't wrap my head around a good answer to these questions. I think the answer to #1 really depends on just how many 'crossover' angry white male voters will crawl out of the woodwork and vote for him. I think he'll inspire a strong negative vote, but if he also gets people to cross over, that could be a disaster. Cruz, on the other hand, is too far right to win the Independents. So perhaps, Cruz is a more PREDICTABLE opponent. And should we be faced with either a Cruz or a Trump victory ... who will screw the country the most? Cruz, we know, will try to do all the things he said he'll do - defund PP, ban gay marriage, kill Obamacare, etc. But what will Trump REALLY do ... I honestly can't predict. I don't think he gives a stuff about gay marriage or PP, and I think he'll approach Obamacare from a strictly financial viewpoint. But really, who knows what floats around in that head. His unpredictability is the biggest concern I guess. |
Re: 2016 Election
Is it December yet?
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Steerpike
(Post 11897893)
I think there are two angles to this, possibly conflicting.
1) Would Trump be easier to BEAT in the general than Cruz, and 2) Would Trump be better for the country than Cruz, should one of them actually beat Hillary. I just can't wrap my head around a good answer to these questions. I think the answer to #1 really depends on just how many 'crossover' angry white male voters will crawl out of the woodwork and vote for him. I think he'll inspire a strong negative vote, but if he also gets people to cross over, that could be a disaster. Cruz, on the other hand, is too far right to win the Independents. So perhaps, Cruz is a more PREDICTABLE opponent. On the other hand, Trump may actually galvanize enough voters in quasi-purple states with high Latino populations such as Colorado and Nevada to ensure that they remain in the blue camp. Either way, I doubt that either of them can beat Clinton in electoral votes. She can't be expected to outperform Obama, but it's hard to see how she goes below 270. It helps that Virginia has demographically shifted so that the northern part of the state will now vote for Democrats. |
Re: 2016 Election
This was reference in the liberal media so hopefully it will pass the BE censors. |
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