it could be quite a broad subject but if you want to see the worst in the US (the centre of technology?) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...title=1__Idaho

there are industrial systems of potentially 1000mb (1gb) but these are inordinately expensive. As I said earlier Virgin in Uk are offering packages of 100mb but this is a pipe dream for spain at the moment as even the spanish will admit Franco has kept them 20-30 years behind the rest of europe.

the problem for many people is the distance they are from the last amplifier\repeater as the copper cable lengths, installed for basic 50v telephone lines, may be many many decades old, the connections are not too hot, in countries like spain the cable will expand alot when hot and shrink when cold. (same happens with mains cables) all of these things can and do effect the speed. the analogy is using different lengths of water hose, when short the water pressure is higher than when the pipe is many times longer.
this is why the provider only says "up to Xmb" knowing full well after it has left the exchange it is already starting to fall.

there's oodles more that could be turned into a 45-60min lecture (english only my spanish isnt good enough)

finally (yes) August 6th is deemed to be the birthday of the WWW and it is today the 20th anniversary since its father Sir Tim Berners-Lee announced it to the world.

You also have to add into the equation the fact that away from the big cities and the coast many rural communities have no further capacity for new phone lines.
We are only 40 klm from Malaga but the new flats built in the nearest village to us are unable to have a land line, the exchange is due to be updated... but if that's going to be any time soon is anybodies guess!
For us personally 1 mb is all we can get (on a good day) for our 40€ a month.

Meg, thats part of the Franco legacy! So many Spaniards I know look back on those days as being the root of so many of Spains current ills.
They want to play on the world stage (and why not) but they don't have the infrastructure. without it you cannot move to more people working from home, so they have to keep travelling into the big city.
so they improve and improve the facilities in the big cities whilst denying the outlying regions even basic equipment.
I am sure Spain isnt the only country with this problem but it is a problem we have to live with as this is now our home.
And I haven't forgotten that it isnt all a bed of rose petals in the uk

Yes we are indeed thirty years behind here, personally I wouldn't change it as it's part of this regions charm.
It would be nice to have the Internet speed I had in England, but in truth I don't really need it.
Even back in rural England not far from where I used to live an Internet connection was just a dream, I guess rural areas in most countries are not of much importance to governments when it comes to spending money, much better for them to spend it where the large populations are....as that's where the votes are too!

this is my speed
download speed =1.09Kbps and
upload speed =0.87kbps
and i check my speed from ip-details
is this good or any improvement have to be made?

???

If you've contracted for less then it's good.

If you've contracted for more, then it's bad.


How can we tell unless you tell us what you are expecting to get?



The real problem in checking speeds is that they all give different results!
Your link gave figure of 0.497 download and 0.79 upload for the non-flash option. Using the speedtest flash version gave figures of 1.07 and 0.58. I then tried www.speedtest.net which gave figures of 2.13 and 0.88

As you can see, they vary enormously! (Download speed ranges from 0.497Mbps to 2.13Mbps)

And there was me thinking it was because Telefonica has not/will not invest its profits in Spain!

Governments dont provide phone lines.

Not entirely true.
The Spanish govt state that they consider that everyone should be in a position to access the internet.
In the absence of lines and terrestial signals they have been encouraging ppl.to access the internet by satellite services, providing grants to aid the initial connection and keep the price within reach of the average citizen.
Initially speeds were quite slow, but as I understand it some of them have recently been upgraded to a reasonable standard.

no not now, but used to even in the uk as what is now BT was the telphone arm of the Post Office who installed the majority of the cables. There are still many people around employed in those days who are entitled to a Civil Service Pension.

In the Franco years everything was owned by the Government. It is only since his death that things have started to change.
It is the duty of Governments to provide the incentives to business to provide the infrastructure.
Like Santander, Telefonica is becoming a behemoth, too large and unwieldy in exactly the same way as BT. But like BT it is the majority stake holder of the backbone of the telecoms in Spain, the cabling, the interfaces and the distribution\exchanges. BT has been fighting for years to restrict access to their exchanges from other suppliers who don't have the backbone.

Royal Mail has the same problems, competition has been let in and they have creamed some of the profit areas but RM are the only ones who have the backbone for making deliveries to your door.

It will take time, and Telefonica will do it at their pace, its their money. And remember that there are still many places in the UK which like Spain don't have a telephone line, letalone a viable broadband service.
If you really want to complain then shout about why in Madrid you can get a 50mb service but in a little village can't even get a telephone line as the exchange doesnt have any spares. Its all down to profit at the end of the day...

I think you will agree Dick that Spain has more problems than the UK, they have many small villages, hamlets and many many more remote houses that could demand the service. The installation of the historical copper backbone is now inordinately expensive for the return so the switch to radio signals is a very logical answer. It then all depends on the availability of another "must have" - electricity - to power the sat systems. Hence the move to photo-voltaic, wind and generators as the electricity supply backbone is just as expensive to install. However, I believe there are systems that use mains for telephone and broadband if that has already been fitted.

Im in Gran Canaria and ip adress in Madrid .. 2924kbps download speed and 385kbps upload speed ..I dont know what it means ,,but i pay 12euros a month and everything works ok

if ur happy what does it matter ??

as an indication of what a difference location can make..........

We moved last weekend, literally into the next street

we had to take a new contract or wait 6 weeks to be re-connected, but everything is the same as before equipment wise & we are still contracted for 6MB

this has been our average speed ever since they came on wednesday

that sounds good - do you feel it is any faster\better rather than speed test telling you so ?

just found out we are contracted for 3mb but barely getting 1mb in the city. They (telefonica\movistar) have an offer on for for new subscribers of 10mb for the same price we are paying

that's what prompted the test when the guy connected it - my OH 'connected' his laptop to the modem & said it seemed to be much faster, so I tested it........

when the OH rang Movistar to say we were moving & we wanted to take our number with us, we were told we could, but it would take 6 weeks

or, for no penalty & no connection fee we could take a new contract for a lower monthly charge & have it connected 'by next Tuesday' - a no-brainer really

they rang me to gain access the very next day, but I hadn't picked up the keys yet, so I arranged for them to come on the Monday - & it would have been connected then, but for the fact that the urb caretaker is on hols & they had to get a key for the phone cupboard from the admin office, which took until Wednesday

maybe we are now contracted for 10 - will wait & see what the bill says