Originally Posted by CAROL ELIZABETH (Post 10489641)

As an outsider living in a Portuguese suburb a fraction of the size of CE and which has a couple of bars, a cafe and a restaurant and kindergarten I just cannot understand why there aren't bars and restaurants on CE. Ours just about survive these difficult times but we can still get a beer at a euro. They are not fancy bars by any means but you have a place to gather and see friendly faces. They are close to each other and all offer drink but otherwise they are slightly different - one offers food and the morning bread, another just drinks and is a sunny spot. In practice they do chase the same business but so far they are managing to stay open so I don't go with the view that the competition would force closure of one.

I can only assume the following for CE:
1. Most homes on CE are holiday homes and they aren't used much except for the two busy months. Some estimate of how many permanent residents there are would help to provide confidence to anyone wishing to set up.
2. The owners of the designated shopping areas (is that Martinsa Fadesa?) are charging ridiculous rents. I don't understand this but assume it is in the Spanish psyche - do they not understand that a successful business encourages more.
3. The Ayamonte and Spanish system is too complex and bureaucratic for most people whether Spanish or otherwise to contemplate trying to see their way through if there are potential risks to their investment. What is the town hall doing to generate business on CE or do they simply not care?
4. Did Jag not consider opening his business in one of the proper designated areas where he would not have had the same problems. I know it would not have been as smart but at least he would have had a business. I only went a few times but feel sad for those of you who live on CE as you have lost a very nice facility.

It might take a big community consortium to get a bar cum restaurant going on CE but someone will need to be the driving force behind it. The shares idea is a good one - would it work again?

Originally Posted by BILL AND CLAIRE (Post 10490339)

Hi Carol
Hope your well..
The reason Jags didnt open elsewere is that THEY got the premises rent free not sure for how long but atleast 3 years.
The answer to what is the town hall doing is "" NOT ALOT ""

Originally Posted by N.P (Post 10490944)

By agreeing to go public was always going to be a risk as it was illegal. They took the risk fully aware what may happen, as in closure. I feel sorry for those who were strung along by Mr Jag saying he was opening soon. He was trying to keep those he owed money to at bay. He knew the writing was on the wall and was going back. Its a shame some are owed money and out of pocket.
Why cant people get it through their thick heads that whatever runs from the club house, spa, gym etc will only be for the use of the community of view green.

Originally Posted by Uncle Buck (Post 10491582)

And the community of view green is ?

Originally Posted by V.S (Post 10491631)

The urbanisation of villas adjacent to Jags

Originally Posted by Kath and Ted (Post 10492440)

Olivia is right, there would never be any 'business case' for any members only club with such a limited restriction of membership. If that is the only way that a business could be run there then why would anyone take it on?
Kath

Originally Posted by Uncle Buck (Post 10492529)

I heard (don't shoot the messenger) from a source in the know that there are few parties interested in taking this venue over, but the debts from the previous owner have to sorted out first. If true hopefully something could be sorted by the summer:fingerscrossed: