It's raining, it's pouring; this is getting boring....
Mar 23rd 2010 | 8:32 am
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Mar 23rd 2010 | 8:32 am
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Re: It's raining, it's pouring; this is getting boring....
Yep the shutters (every window and all but one door has them) are on the inside. Were like that when we bought the house. Not sure how we could retrofit anything outside, it's an old property all bar the extension bit at the rear & even that has been done *relatively* in keeping.
I've tried to describe the heating problems of our house, which are manifold, before. Essentially there are steps & stairs all over the place, making it multi-level which means description is even harder.... 'downstairs' there are 7 rooms, only three of which have doors which will isolate them from anywhere else. One is the kitchen, which has double doors to the dining room & an open stairwell to one 'upstairs, which in turn has three rooms only two of which can be closed off (and one's a bathroom!). The other 'upstairs' is two rooms, both with doors.
However the principal issue is the living room(s).... it's about 7m x 4m, plus a ceiling height ranging from about 3m to 4.4m (ish). The fire is in one corner. There are * the main entrance double doors *the archway to the dining room *the archway to the other living room *a small internal open window gap to the other living room.....
getting the picture? ie there's nothing bar curtains to stop the warm air from getting out to other rooms & a huge ceiling well to stop the warm air from being down where we are.
And no, of course we can't or won't change it very much; beams. Light fittings. blah blah.
Still it'll be summer soon. I keep telling myself. Didn't light the fire tonight, btw!!!!
I've tried to describe the heating problems of our house, which are manifold, before. Essentially there are steps & stairs all over the place, making it multi-level which means description is even harder.... 'downstairs' there are 7 rooms, only three of which have doors which will isolate them from anywhere else. One is the kitchen, which has double doors to the dining room & an open stairwell to one 'upstairs, which in turn has three rooms only two of which can be closed off (and one's a bathroom!). The other 'upstairs' is two rooms, both with doors.
However the principal issue is the living room(s).... it's about 7m x 4m, plus a ceiling height ranging from about 3m to 4.4m (ish). The fire is in one corner. There are * the main entrance double doors *the archway to the dining room *the archway to the other living room *a small internal open window gap to the other living room.....
getting the picture? ie there's nothing bar curtains to stop the warm air from getting out to other rooms & a huge ceiling well to stop the warm air from being down where we are.
And no, of course we can't or won't change it very much; beams. Light fittings. blah blah.
Still it'll be summer soon. I keep telling myself. Didn't light the fire tonight, btw!!!!
Secondly, if that it too much trouble, then fit a crude roller blind on the outside, or a more formal shutter against the sun.
To close off doorways against heat, use a heavy curtain. We isolate the living room from the other rooms with a heavy material curtain, and that makes one hell of a difference.
Mar 23rd 2010 | 9:18 am
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Re: It's raining, it's pouring; this is getting boring....
I've got the same, and yes it does work. I put fans up in every room 3 years ago and haven't used the air-con once since then. When I'm running the woodstove the living room fan is set to pump air upwards (aiding natural convection). As soon as it is turned on temperature goes up 4 or 5 degrees. Fans need to be big enough though. 150 cm minimum. A 90cm fan would be a complete waste of time. I've got a 90cm one in my box room and it's barely enough even in there. Big fans move lots of air, but they do it slowly and quietly.
Mar 23rd 2010 | 6:20 pm
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Mar 23rd 2010 | 6:29 pm
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Re: It's raining, it's pouring; this is getting boring....
Well, first off a pergola outside planted with grapes to shade windows has a number of functions. t's cooler underneath that in the full sun than if it were a solid roof, the leaves are late, so that in winter and spring the light shines thru, and it then stops the summer sun. Finally, of course you get free grapes!
Secondly, if that it too much trouble, then fit a crude roller blind on the outside, or a more formal shutter against the sun.
To close off doorways against heat, use a heavy curtain. We isolate the living room from the other rooms with a heavy material curtain, and that makes one hell of a difference.
Secondly, if that it too much trouble, then fit a crude roller blind on the outside, or a more formal shutter against the sun.
To close off doorways against heat, use a heavy curtain. We isolate the living room from the other rooms with a heavy material curtain, and that makes one hell of a difference.
... Vines - well there are really only two logical places & that would only help, I suspect, in the summer when temperature isn't the problem; ok yes the house gets warm but not as bad as some more modern buildings because of our thick walls. Essentially however much I think myself round in circles (will think about the fan idea) I consider the best prospect longer-term is installing central heating - messy, expensive, but would provide heat or at very least an ambient 'non-cold' which with thermostats would mean we weren't overheating little-used rooms. Just have to arrange that lottery win now.........
Mar 23rd 2010 | 8:01 pm
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Re: It's raining, it's pouring; this is getting boring....
I've got the same, and yes it does work. I put fans up in every room 3 years ago and haven't used the air-con once since then. When I'm running the woodstove the living room fan is set to pump air upwards (aiding natural convection). As soon as it is turned on temperature goes up 4 or 5 degrees. Fans need to be big enough though. 150 cm minimum. A 90cm fan would be a complete waste of time. I've got a 90cm one in my box room and it's barely enough even in there. Big fans move lots of air, but they do it slowly and quietly.
House full of fans of 150cm minimum,.....so whats the max?
Are you trying to achieve lift off into the great blue yonder, as a means of cooling your house?
Last sighted at 20,000ft heading towards Mallorca...
Mar 23rd 2010 | 9:02 pm
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Re: It's raining, it's pouring; this is getting boring....
A small fan on the other hand produces a small current of fast moving air that is very noisy and that only reaches one person at a once.
One brings comfort; the other is a nuisance.
Mar 23rd 2010 | 9:40 pm
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Mar 23rd 2010 | 10:30 pm
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Re: It's raining, it's pouring; this is getting boring....
All my bedrooms have sloping ceilings. Would I be able to safely fit ceiling fans?
Mar 23rd 2010 | 10:47 pm
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Re: It's raining, it's pouring; this is getting boring....
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Mar 24th 2010 | 2:52 am
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Mar 24th 2010 | 6:52 am
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Re: It's raining, it's pouring; this is getting boring....
Mar 24th 2010 | 9:09 am
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Re: It's raining, it's pouring; this is getting boring....
untill i got to your reply was starting to yawn abit, but have been woken up laughing thanks
Mar 24th 2010 | 12:01 pm
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Re: It's raining, it's pouring; this is getting boring....
Mar 24th 2010 | 6:03 pm
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