ECJ DECLARE STREAMING BBC/ITV ILLEGAL
Mar 11th 2013 | 3:51 am
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Re: ECJ DECLARE STREAMING BBC/ITV ILLEGAL
By no means!
If companies are stupid enough to put something out on public internet without taking the trouble to protect it, and I in my innocence (using Expat Shield), stumble across it and start watching it, legally I can't be guilty of theft, because I didn't know!
Anyway, I watch using FilmOn these days, and unless the American courts get involved (and why should they), I can't see that changing.
If companies are stupid enough to put something out on public internet without taking the trouble to protect it, and I in my innocence (using Expat Shield), stumble across it and start watching it, legally I can't be guilty of theft, because I didn't know!
Anyway, I watch using FilmOn these days, and unless the American courts get involved (and why should they), I can't see that changing.
you didnt stumble across it, you purposely acquired and used it
and as to Filmon well they are thieves the same as you are
Filmon and Alki David have been involved in several legal issues over programming including the carriage of major U.S. broadcast channels, such as CBS, NBC, ABC and Fox. This resulted in requiring FilmOn to drop these channels
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Mar 11th 2013 | 4:08 am
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Re: ECJ DECLARE STREAMING BBC/ITV ILLEGAL
from their website...............
Expat Shield is the alternate name of the product Hotspot Shield of Anchor Free of Silicon Valley and from their website...............
methinks you are just wriggling on the hook.
It is easier to take to court the thief and stop him than to try taking to court thousands of people who are receiving the benefits of the theft.
although by your own admission you are also advertising this product to enable people to get their favourite TV programmes, which will probably make you much easier to prosecute than the people who have just read about it on this forum
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Expat Shield is the alternate name of the product Hotspot Shield of Anchor Free of Silicon Valley and from their website...............
methinks you are just wriggling on the hook.
It is easier to take to court the thief and stop him than to try taking to court thousands of people who are receiving the benefits of the theft.
although by your own admission you are also advertising this product to enable people to get their favourite TV programmes, which will probably make you much easier to prosecute than the people who have just read about it on this forum
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Where does it mention UK TV, or any other TV?
Unless the word TV is specifically mentioned, it can't be accused of any wrong doing!!!!!!!!!
Expat Shield is clean, and I won't lose any sleep over recommending it!
Although you would be delighted if I did
Mar 11th 2013 | 4:14 am
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Re: ECJ DECLARE STREAMING BBC/ITV ILLEGAL
Me thinks you are completely GAGA.
Where does it mention UK TV, or any other TV?
Unless the word TV is specifically mentioned, it can't be accused of any wrong doing!!!!!!!!!
Expat Shield is clean, and I won't lose any sleep over recommending it!
Although you would be delighted if I did
Where does it mention UK TV, or any other TV?
Unless the word TV is specifically mentioned, it can't be accused of any wrong doing!!!!!!!!!
Expat Shield is clean, and I won't lose any sleep over recommending it!
Although you would be delighted if I did
I can almost here the sirens now, understand the Policia are rather rough with thieves, spoils their pleasant day driving around smiling at the senoritas
Mar 11th 2013 | 4:16 am
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Re: ECJ DECLARE STREAMING BBC/ITV ILLEGAL
they have put in protection measures - you have gone to a hacker to enable you to bypass those measures.
you didnt stumble across it, you purposely acquired and used it
and as to Filmon well they are thieves the same as you are
this is just the same as Dick Turpin riding out as a highwayman to make money by stealing other peoples property
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you didnt stumble across it, you purposely acquired and used it
and as to Filmon well they are thieves the same as you are
this is just the same as Dick Turpin riding out as a highwayman to make money by stealing other peoples property
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When SKY goes, there will be loads of criminals here in Espania.
They won't be without their soaps (loads of 'em are at it already, lncluding a certain F.J.)
P.S. My neighbour's a copper and a friend (lovely wife and kids). I'll pop over and hold my hands out for the 'cuffs. You and Fred can be witnesses for the prosecution. Should be a right giggle!
Last edited by Saxy; Mar 11th 2013 at 4:29 am.
Mar 11th 2013 | 4:38 am
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Re: ECJ DECLARE STREAMING BBC/ITV ILLEGAL
<If you are using VPN to watch television programmes what else are you trying to watch with this software.?>
IMO thats a extremely nasty piece of implication, I would suggest you edit your post
IMO thats a extremely nasty piece of implication, I would suggest you edit your post
Mar 11th 2013 | 5:12 am
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Mar 11th 2013 | 5:24 am
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@Saxy Good for you but the comment I made was not directed at you
Mar 11th 2013 | 5:27 am
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Re: ECJ DECLARE STREAMING BBC/ITV ILLEGAL
Don´t think the Guardia will be interested in ex-pats watching UK tv when they aren´t interested in the same ex-pats driving British plated cars with no MOT or RFL.
Mar 11th 2013 | 5:33 am
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Mar 11th 2013 | 8:05 am
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Re: ECJ DECLARE STREAMING BBC/ITV ILLEGAL
but I stand by the statement, if you are hiding behind a VPN to trawl the net what is it you are trying to hide??
products such as Norton cost far less than the monthly subscription to a VPN
but as I keep saying the use of a VPN isnt totally anonymous, like ISP's the VPN providers have to keep records of who goes where and when. Therefore it leaves a trail which can easily be made available on demand by the relevent authorities.
If you have a problem with my earlier post then please report it to the moderators using the appropriate button and let them decide, I have nothing to hide, I don't use a VPN.
And I have no intention of withdrawing the comment, especially as I see no reason for you to be come involved at such a late stage.
kind regards
Mar 11th 2013 | 8:08 am
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Re: ECJ DECLARE STREAMING BBC/ITV ILLEGAL
GOOD IN'IT,
When SKY goes, there will be loads of criminals here in Espania.
They won't be without their soaps (loads of 'em are at it already, lncluding a certain F.J.)
P.S. My neighbour's a copper and a friend (lovely wife and kids). I'll pop over and hold my hands out for the 'cuffs. You and Fred can be witnesses for the prosecution. Should be a right giggle!
When SKY goes, there will be loads of criminals here in Espania.
They won't be without their soaps (loads of 'em are at it already, lncluding a certain F.J.)
P.S. My neighbour's a copper and a friend (lovely wife and kids). I'll pop over and hold my hands out for the 'cuffs. You and Fred can be witnesses for the prosecution. Should be a right giggle!
Domino Fred
Mar 11th 2013 | 9:11 am
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Re: ECJ DECLARE STREAMING BBC/ITV ILLEGAL
thats not my post ... quote me if you wish but dont post someones else post and claim i said it ..and watching BBC without the BBC permission is not THEFT never heard something so daft ...ECJ say as long as you can GET a channel in europe then you can watch it and its against free trade to stop you i sell bbc/itv day in and day out but THE ORIGINAL SITE with geo-blocking taken off ...
http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/d...cp110102en.pdf
and from what i read is that BBC WORLD money got FROM EUROPE helos keep the price of the TV licence down for UKers ,so can we have OUR money back since we cant watch UK psb and please put up the price of the UK licence so that they can stand on their own to feet and not have us ex-pats having to send them money
´´BBC Worldwide Limited is the wholly owned commercial subsidiary of the British Broadcasting Corporation, formed out of a restructuring of its predecessor BBC Enterprises in 1995. The company exploits BBC brands, sells BBC and other British programming for broadcast abroad with the aim of supplementing the income received by the BBC through the license fee.´´
http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/d...cp110102en.pdf
and from what i read is that BBC WORLD money got FROM EUROPE helos keep the price of the TV licence down for UKers ,so can we have OUR money back since we cant watch UK psb and please put up the price of the UK licence so that they can stand on their own to feet and not have us ex-pats having to send them money
´´BBC Worldwide Limited is the wholly owned commercial subsidiary of the British Broadcasting Corporation, formed out of a restructuring of its predecessor BBC Enterprises in 1995. The company exploits BBC brands, sells BBC and other British programming for broadcast abroad with the aim of supplementing the income received by the BBC through the license fee.´´
Mar 11th 2013 | 9:12 am
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@ Domino ... 'especially as I see no reason for you to be come involved at such a late stage.'
My apology there I was thinking this was a public forum where members could comment on threads but I realise now of course it's really just your soapbox !
As for the comment well you just told the other poster he was a thief and I was wondering just exactly what other (in your mind) criminal activity you were implying he was engaged in.
My apology there I was thinking this was a public forum where members could comment on threads but I realise now of course it's really just your soapbox !
As for the comment well you just told the other poster he was a thief and I was wondering just exactly what other (in your mind) criminal activity you were implying he was engaged in.
Mar 11th 2013 | 9:16 am
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Re: ECJ DECLARE STREAMING BBC/ITV ILLEGAL
´´In its judgment delivered today, the Court of Justice holds that national legislation which
prohibits the import, sale or use of foreign decoder cards is contrary to the freedom to
provide services and cannot be justified either in light of the objective of protecting intellectual
property rights or by the objective of encouraging the public to attend football stadiums.´´
system of exclusive licences is also contrary to European Union
competition law if the licence agreements prohibit the supply of decoder cards to television
viewers who wish to watch the broadcasts outside the Member State for which the licence
is granted.
not according to the highest court in europe...
Mar 11th 2013 | 9:20 am
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Re: ECJ DECLARE STREAMING BBC/ITV ILLEGAL
HOWEVER using FILMON and EUROPA and the others using rediffusion is ILLEGAL
http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/d...cp130025en.pdf
