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Old Feb 5th 2014 | 11:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Bipat
I don't think it has! many Indian people stayed in UK because of the world wide reputation of its education system and because it was less rigid than the tests/exams system of India.
so then why hasn't India got a "world wide reputation" for its education system if it is stricter, and yet looking at Indian job websites demand degree level standard education for a receptionist ??
and why is the UK being pumped for charity money to provide basic level teaching of reading and writing - when the money from single Mars probe would cover that for a decade or so ??

I believe I said it earlier, I have no problems with "emergent" nations (after all India is only about 66 years old) reaching out to join the "big table" but they are not making the transition any easier if they are leaving millions and millions of people without even basic 3R's education. But I suppose it keeps those who make a living reading letters and writing replies for those who can't do it for themselves.
Stop the massive military expansion, stop the rocket race and think about the future.
 
Old Feb 6th 2014 | 12:34 am
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Originally Posted by Bipat
My post was in response to the previous post on immigrants; quote "Its shit has been forced on us!".

My response was not an argument, I was pointing out the fact that 'immigrants' comprise many disparate groups. Many being asked to come.
Yes, they were invited, but quite how that makes them slaves is a tad beyond me. They were under no duress to come, no obligation to stay, that really doesn't seem like the life of a slave to me. You haven't got much of an argument to start with, such wild accusations only serve to ridicule your posts. As a woman you'll probably want the last word, help yourself, I'm out of here.
 
Old Feb 6th 2014 | 12:43 am
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Originally Posted by Domino
read the thread not just your own posts, sit back with a strong cup of tea made from leaves from a former colonial outpost, and think about it.

then ask yourself how far the thread has deviated from its origins and what you can do to help it back.

regards
All some of you want to discuss is how the behaviour some immigrants differs from what you regard as British standards.
That is your view but not a universal one.
We have seen major changes in what are acceptable standards of behavior in the last 30 + years.
Time does not stand still and you will have to accept that or find yourselves further and further away from the realties of life in the UK .

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Old Feb 6th 2014 | 12:47 am
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Originally Posted by Domino
so then why hasn't India got a "world wide reputation" for its education system if it is stricter, and yet looking at Indian job websites demand degree level standard education for a receptionist ??
and why is the UK being pumped for charity money to provide basic level teaching of reading and writing - when the money from single Mars probe would cover that for a decade or so ??

I believe I said it earlier, I have no problems with "emergent" nations (after all India is only about 66 years old) reaching out to join the "big table" but they are not making the transition any easier if they are leaving millions and millions of people without even basic 3R's education. But I suppose it keeps those who make a living reading letters and writing replies for those who can't do it for themselves.
Stop the massive military expansion, stop the rocket race and think about the future.
You may have noticed that it is part of a 'Subcontinent' rather than a country
each state is different and in fact the equivalent of a European country by size, language, etc. etc.

In fact India does have a world wide reputation for its education. Universities of Delhi, Mumbai, Hyderabad and more rank with any in the world. The competition is intense.
Those that are illiterate are in a minority in every state although figures for each state are different. Many, many millions are highly educated. The average middle class child more so than many in the UK as it is now. But the system as I said is thought by many to be too rigid without any extracurricular activities.

India is not really an "emergent nation" (they had a civilisation when the British were still in caves). (Joking before I get insults)

I agree what you have said about the space programme.
 
Old Feb 6th 2014 | 12:53 am
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Originally Posted by Bipat
My post was in response to the previous post on immigrants; quote "Its shit has been forced on us!".

My response was not an argument, I was pointing out the fact that 'immigrants' comprise many disparate groups. Many being asked to come.

Your response of "they" (unspecified) could go back if they wanted to I took to mean if they don't like being called "shit" back to where they came from. You are correct in that! but the indigenous people who think in those terms are actually a minority.(Unless you read expat forums)

PS I am a she not a he.

Sorry I have a hangover today and might explain my drunken rant. However who asked them to come ?

I did not, nobody I know did, Tony Blairs Government did
 
Old Feb 6th 2014 | 12:58 am
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Andy, the only " ones " who came as a result of Tony Blairs actions are Iraqis.
I do not know how many but there are a tiny % of the total of immgrants in the UK.
The Kurdish refugees " pre date " the war in Iraq as they were fleeing the genocidal policies of Saddam plus oppression n Turkey and Iran.
 
Old Feb 6th 2014 | 12:59 am
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Originally Posted by agoreira
Yes, they were invited, but quite how that makes them slaves is a tad beyond me. They were under no duress to come, no obligation to stay, that really doesn't seem like the life of a slave to me. You haven't got much of an argument to start with, such wild accusations only serve to ridicule your posts. As a woman you'll probably want the last word, help yourself, I'm out of here.
Could you perhaps take the trouble to read my original post.

I said they were brought as slaves to the West Indies in order that the English could make money out of the sugar plantations etc. Many English stately homes were financed this way.
Later after WW2 they were asked to come to UK.

(I wasn't actually arguing just stating some facts, which else do you suggest was incorrect?)
 
Old Feb 6th 2014 | 1:04 am
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Originally Posted by andyrich666
Sorry I have a hangover today and might explain my drunken rant. However who asked them to come ?

I did not, nobody I know did, Tony Blairs Government did
The post war government asked "them" to come in order to help staff the new National health service and fill vacant jobs in factories etc.

Tony Blair, yes, allowed many workers from the countries new to the EU to come before it was necessary under the rules, that is a different issue.
 
Old Feb 6th 2014 | 1:57 am
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Most people are concerned with the deluge that is about to come to the UK not what happened 50 years ago.

I don't have a problem with Indians, they are generally educated, civilised and not terrorists. They integrate well.

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Old Feb 6th 2014 | 2:05 am
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Originally Posted by EMR
Andy, the only " ones " who came as a result of Tony Blairs actions are Iraqis.
I do not know how many but there are a tiny % of the total of immgrants in the UK.
The Kurdish refugees " pre date " the war in Iraq as they were fleeing the genocidal policies of Saddam plus oppression n Turkey and Iran.
Spin it how you want, the whole of the UK changed under Blair/Brown.
 
Old Feb 6th 2014 | 2:05 am
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
Most people are concerned with the deluge that is about to come to the UK not what happened 50 years ago.

I don't have a problem with Indians, they are generally educated, civilised and not terrorists. They integrate well.
I'll second that jacky, had lots of Indian friends and still regularly talk to one of them and always found them to be very happy, polite, caring and interesting.
 
Old Feb 6th 2014 | 2:30 am
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The ones in our local restaurant are the salt of the earth and never do nasty things to the food of the drunks who insult them,
 
Old Feb 6th 2014 | 3:36 am
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
That,s the quality of debate now on BE. Twist the words and pull the racist card, mix in a bit of history ......and they're off
You mean like Aggy did? The OP clearly mentioned slavery in relation to the Americas including the West Indies and Aggy, in their usual way, twisted it round to slavery in the U, and whatever other nonsense point she was trying to make.... So I'd place the statement at her feet not mine.
 
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Did someone buy you a box of nasty pills for Xmas with a side effect of losing the skills to debate
 
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
Did someone buy you a box of nasty pills for Xmas with a side effect of losing the skills to debate
I kind of got that impression myself after this reply to me on the Muslim thread....

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