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Old Aug 22nd 2013, 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
You never know - those skills might come good Seriously, they could get openings through the retail work, so all is not lost.

Your "retail work" = my "shop assistant". All the jobs she seems to be able to get are 10% window work and 90% shop floor selling....driving her mad!
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Old Aug 22nd 2013, 6:24 pm
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Originally Posted by dunroving
Actually, flower arranging and window dressing seem quite useful. Now "media studies" is another thing entirely (apologies to anyone on BE who took media studies).
But degree useful....?
In my day it was " peace studies" that the dossers went for


Err, ditto on the apologies
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Old Aug 22nd 2013, 6:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Yes, especially as we'd be paying overseas rates. Food for thought.

Then again, science is not an easy career path.
Even at overseas rates, it's going to be cheaper than here (US) though, isn't it...?
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Originally Posted by not2old
Earn a degree in flower arranging & you can work for the secret service.

https://www.mi5.gov.uk/careers/current-jobs.aspx

you.
Camouflage department?
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Old Aug 22nd 2013, 6:28 pm
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Default Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?

Originally Posted by roaringmouse
The unemployment rate in this quarter of 2007 was 5.4% - a difference of over 800,000 people compared to now. Reducing unemployment by 4,000 in a month will take a very long time to get people into work.If you read post 630, you'll see that I think the economy will eventually improve.
You do like to ignore the reality don't you? So an increase in unemployment of 800, 000 from the height of a credit bubble to perhaps the worst recession in the developed world in 70 or 80 years (or possible a century) is not an improvement. And after a growth in population of nearly 3 million. Makes me wonder just what conditions there will be when the economy eventually does meet your expectations.

Reducing unemployment by 4,000 in a month when the working age population has increased by 40,000 in the same time with a working population the size of the UK is one heck of an achievement that I think any country in the world will envy.

The reason I harp on is that people who read this are likely to be thinking of their possibility of finding work. The figures are quite unequivocal. You can huff and puff as much as you like, trying to make people feel bad, but their chances are very good indeed. It may not always be the work people want at least initially but people who move in search of something better are, in my experience,very determined people.

The rate of job creation in the UK gives all a chance
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Originally Posted by Yorkieabroad
Even at overseas rates, it's going to be cheaper than here (US) though, isn't it...?
Depends. She was looking at Sussex which is 16,000 pounds. But there are some cheaper, and it's only 3 years.
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Old Aug 22nd 2013, 7:00 pm
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Originally Posted by roaringmouse
So you think the current economic climate will last for at least 4 more years then? It really doesn't look good, does it?
Even if things improve in the next 4 years, there will be a backlog of graduates who have been unable to get suitable employment so it will still be a pretty competitive job market. Most of our graduates have been unable to get suitable work for a few years now.
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Originally Posted by bigglesworth
Reducing unemployment by 4,000 in a month when the working age population has increased by 40,000 in the same time with a working population the size of the UK is one heck of an achievement that I think any country in the world will envy.
It doesn't even make a dent in the unemployment figures.
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Old Aug 22nd 2013, 9:38 pm
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Default Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?

Originally Posted by roaringmouse
It doesn't even make a dent in the unemployment figures.
So - no answer then to any of the substantive points anybody has made.

One question....

Why do you not respond to all posts by simply saying that despite any and all evidence to the contrary, you will always say it is bad in the UK?

That would save everyone a lot of time


DNFTT.

Why did I not think of that?
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Default Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?

Originally Posted by bigglesworth
Why do you not respond to all posts by simply saying that despite any and all evidence to the contrary, you will always say it is bad in the UK?
Have you not seen the links and statistics that I have put into posts, showing the evidence that I have mentioned?

Have you also not read the post where I said that things will improve eventually?
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Old Aug 22nd 2013, 10:09 pm
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Serious question.

Is it better to have 300 people employed earning £12k per annum or 100 people employed earning £36k per annum?
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Originally Posted by roaringmouse
It doesn't even make a dent in the unemployment figures.
I thought that the 4000 figure could secure gold for Britain in the annual Straw-Clutching Olympics.
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Zen, you are a regular ray of sunshine!
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Zen, you are a regular ray of sunshine!
If you think that was miserable I better not talk to you about Syria!
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Default Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?

Originally Posted by bigglesworth
So - no answer then to any of the substantive points anybody has made.

One question....

Why do you not respond to all posts by simply saying that despite any and all evidence to the contrary, you will always say it is bad in the UK?

That would save everyone a lot of time


DNFTT.

Why did I not think of that?
I wouldnt worry about it, I think most can see real tangible improvements here even just in the last couple of months.
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