how old is the UK?
Mar 4th 2009, 2:58 am
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Re: how old is the UK?
BM,
Even though it is specifically aimed at christians I think you may also find this video useful for future arguments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkCuc34hvD4
Even though it is specifically aimed at christians I think you may also find this video useful for future arguments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkCuc34hvD4
at work youtube is not working .. i will try to watch it at home insha allah and make a comment
Re: how old is the UK?
Mar 4th 2009, 3:00 am
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Mar 4th 2009, 3:04 am
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Let's face it though we have elements in the West who still resist the good things science gives...Creation "science", anti-GM crop nuts, anti-stem cell research people, "pro-life" folks etc etc.
Thankfully we have secular governments who try (usually) to get all the facts without having a pre-conceived idea (like religion) when it comes to scientific progress.
It's why we will have cures for most ailments within 20-30 years and will be able to extend our lives by hundreds of years before this century is up (would we want to though given people cannot control their breeding as it is!).
We still have social problems in the West we need to face and sort out - we no longer respect our own culture, people or traditions...that is our biggest failing in my honest opinion.
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Thankfully we have secular governments who try (usually) to get all the facts without having a pre-conceived idea (like religion) when it comes to scientific progress.
It's why we will have cures for most ailments within 20-30 years and will be able to extend our lives by hundreds of years before this century is up (would we want to though given people cannot control their breeding as it is!).
We still have social problems in the West we need to face and sort out - we no longer respect our own culture, people or traditions...that is our biggest failing in my honest opinion.
N.
when you say that someone never respects his own culture or traditions.... why is it a problem to you?
isn't it within the concept of (freedom) ??
you don't respect religions and you wouldn't want to be a religious man at all (this is your wish)
some others don't respect the culture and don't want to live within the traditions (it is their wish)
isnt that true?
Mar 4th 2009, 4:22 am
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Re: how old is the UK?
when you say that someone never respects his own culture or traditions.... why is it a problem to you?
isn't it within the concept of (freedom) ??
you don't respect religions and you wouldn't want to be a religious man at all (this is your wish)
some others don't respect the culture and don't want to live within the traditions (it is their wish)
isnt that true?
isn't it within the concept of (freedom) ??
you don't respect religions and you wouldn't want to be a religious man at all (this is your wish)
some others don't respect the culture and don't want to live within the traditions (it is their wish)
isnt that true?
Yes you are right this is a concept of freedom but I also have the freedom to say this not a good thing do I not?
As for respecting religions...I actually don't mind too much as long as people keep their belief to themselves and don't try to stop progress or interfere with government and laws. If someone behaves better because they are religious I will support them - because it is good for society to have people who behave well no matter if they are religious or not.
If I argue or debate religion that is just talk - if someone is offended by debate that's not my problem...I get offended too but I don't take it too seriously. If we can all be nice to each other in the street and mind our business who cares really if we pray or do not pray? Surely if god is real god will judge not man?
N.
Mar 4th 2009, 4:57 am
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I think it is a problem when people stop respecting any positive aspects of their own culture.
Yes you are right this is a concept of freedom but I also have the freedom to say this not a good thing do I not?
As for respecting religions...I actually don't mind too much as long as people keep their belief to themselves and don't try to stop progress or interfere with government and laws. If someone behaves better because they are religious I will support them - because it is good for society to have people who behave well no matter if they are religious or not.
If I argue or debate religion that is just talk - if someone is offended by debate that's not my problem...I get offended too but I don't take it too seriously. If we can all be nice to each other in the street and mind our business who cares really if we pray or do not pray? Surely if god is real god will judge not man?
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Yes you are right this is a concept of freedom but I also have the freedom to say this not a good thing do I not?
As for respecting religions...I actually don't mind too much as long as people keep their belief to themselves and don't try to stop progress or interfere with government and laws. If someone behaves better because they are religious I will support them - because it is good for society to have people who behave well no matter if they are religious or not.
If I argue or debate religion that is just talk - if someone is offended by debate that's not my problem...I get offended too but I don't take it too seriously. If we can all be nice to each other in the street and mind our business who cares really if we pray or do not pray? Surely if god is real god will judge not man?
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so we have some kind of agreement
we should respect each other you have your believe and i have mine ... i would never love to offend anyone but in the same time i would never want others to offend me and make fun of my religions and beliefs.one last comment on your first line ..
I think it is a problem when people stop respecting any positive aspects of religions specially Islam.
Mar 4th 2009, 8:35 am
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so we have some kind of agreement we should respect each other you have your believe and i have mine ... i would never love to offend anyone but in the same time i would never want others to offend me and make fun of my religions and beliefs.
one last comment on your first line ..
I think it is a problem when people stop respecting any positive aspects of religions specially Islam.
we should respect each other you have your believe and i have mine ... i would never love to offend anyone but in the same time i would never want others to offend me and make fun of my religions and beliefs.one last comment on your first line ..
I think it is a problem when people stop respecting any positive aspects of religions specially Islam.
I understand what you are saying about respecting the positive aspects of religion and agree to a point for sure. I do feel that people still have the right to criticise religion but also to criticise non-religion...but that does not happen in most places because everyone in insecure and becomes highly offended - especially religious people.
I know for a fact disbelief is not respected by religion is it? You are aware of the verses in the Koran and Bible which say very bad things about non-believers and people who pray to more than one god?
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Mar 4th 2009, 8:47 am
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Absolutely people should try to respect each other when possible and at least tolerate each other when they cannot respect each other.
I understand what you are saying about respecting the positive aspects of religion and agree to a point for sure. I do feel that people still have the right to criticise religion but also to criticise non-religion...but that does not happen in most places because everyone in insecure and becomes highly offended - especially religious people.
I know for a fact disbelief is not respected by religion is it? You are aware of the verses in the Koran and Bible which say very bad things about non-believers and people who pray to more than one god?
N.
I understand what you are saying about respecting the positive aspects of religion and agree to a point for sure. I do feel that people still have the right to criticise religion but also to criticise non-religion...but that does not happen in most places because everyone in insecure and becomes highly offended - especially religious people.
I know for a fact disbelief is not respected by religion is it? You are aware of the verses in the Koran and Bible which say very bad things about non-believers and people who pray to more than one god?
N.
if you don't believe in Quraan you shouldn't worry about what is written there about what will happen to non-believers, right???
but you can't just insult the God that we are praying for him and that we believe in him.
but then if you thought about it little bit... what if what is in Quraan is true !!
it is worth thinking about.
Mar 4th 2009, 8:58 am
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Mar 4th 2009, 9:23 am
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Re: how old is the UK?
Just because Ireland (Eire) left in the 1920s, the name UK stayed, except that the constituent countries changed somewhat (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland).
By your reckoning, and if the Scots did vote for independence in 2010, then in 2011 the UK (United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland) would only be 1 year old !
I have already seen some examples of how the UK flag would look in 2011...the Welsh dragon flag would probably be used because the St. George red cross/white background would clash, or be superimposed on the St David yellow cross/black background of St. David.
Mar 4th 2009, 12:20 pm
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yikes! That flag is horrid! It's looks... naked!
Besides, getting rid of the Union Jack would mean that places like Oz would have to change theirs too... anyone fancy the flag-making industry?!
Besides, getting rid of the Union Jack would mean that places like Oz would have to change theirs too... anyone fancy the flag-making industry?!
Mar 4th 2009, 2:06 pm
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How about this one...not quite finished - as a white strip would need to be put beneath the St Patrick's diagonal cross !
Mar 4th 2009, 2:23 pm
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[QUOTE=Jammy_Dodgers;7336545]
Stonehenge always cracks me up with its "Wonder" status. While the UK cave dwellers were busy patting themselves on the back after throwing togther a few lumps of stone, the Egyptians were busy cranking out Pyramids 
Mar 4th 2009, 5:18 pm
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[QUOTE=Dan725;7344788]
... It is however still more upright than the house I rent here which is about 3 minutes old...