Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
Oct 14th 2013 | 9:03 pm
#961
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
Much of the 'poverty' in a rich country is self imposed to some degree or another. The fact that children live in poverty through parents mismanagement is largely irrelevant as far as the problem is concerned. In the 3rd world children and adults live in poverty because they have no choice and have no access to food or money. In a rich 1st world country the vast majority of poverty is relative and is often the result of bad management. Children get caught up in it through no fault of their own and in many cases are destined to follow in their parents footsteps.
My wife used to volunteer for meals on wheels in Brisbane and some of the stories she told me were mindboggling. There were able bodied families receiving these almost free meals and their houses were full of beer cans and full ashtrays. Why should they be receiving these heavily subsidised meals?
My wife used to volunteer for meals on wheels in Brisbane and some of the stories she told me were mindboggling. There were able bodied families receiving these almost free meals and their houses were full of beer cans and full ashtrays. Why should they be receiving these heavily subsidised meals?
Oct 14th 2013 | 10:02 pm
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
That doesn't cover the increase in long-term unemployed. It's currently very easy when finding yourself unemployed to still be in that position 6, 12, 18 months later - the UK is in the middle of what really is a depression, with still many years expected to go before unemployment gets to a good level.
Oct 14th 2013 | 10:54 pm
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
No Im not confused about it at all, many of those my wife delivered to where no more disabled than me.
Oct 14th 2013 | 10:56 pm
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
I would think that a charity with limited resources would not waste them on those who really didn't need it, but never having worked for the charity, I can only go by what they give as their criteria
Oct 14th 2013 | 10:58 pm
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
You really shouldnt change your posts like that, it causes confusion 
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Oct 14th 2013 | 11:12 pm
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
In any case, who is eligible to receive meals on wheels is not up to you, the person referring the client to QMOW obviously thought they could do with that service.
Oct 14th 2013 | 11:34 pm
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
A good read which completely contradicts the opinion of some 'experts'.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/426...ubles-for-2013
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/426...ubles-for-2013
Oct 14th 2013 | 11:41 pm
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
A good read which completely contradicts the opinion of some 'experts'.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/426...ubles-for-2013
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/426...ubles-for-2013
Oct 14th 2013 | 11:48 pm
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
Much of the 'poverty' in a rich country is self imposed to some degree or another. The fact that children live in poverty through parents mismanagement is largely irrelevant as far as the problem is concerned. In the 3rd world children and adults live in poverty because they have no choice and have no access to food or money. In a rich 1st world country the vast majority of poverty is relative and is often the result of bad management. Children get caught up in it through no fault of their own and in many cases are destined to follow in their parents footsteps.
My wife used to volunteer for meals on wheels in Brisbane and some of the stories she told me were mindboggling. There were able bodied families receiving these almost free meals and their houses were full of beer cans and full ashtrays. Why should they be receiving these heavily subsidised meals?
My wife used to volunteer for meals on wheels in Brisbane and some of the stories she told me were mindboggling. There were able bodied families receiving these almost free meals and their houses were full of beer cans and full ashtrays. Why should they be receiving these heavily subsidised meals?
Tomorrow morning I intend to check this out with people I know very well, I'll do that before or after these lovely people deliver my meal to me.
I will never agree that the UK has masses of people living in poverty. The UK has no more or less problems as other FW countries-the only difference is that the UK is always analyzed this way.........but we've been over that haven't we?
I do agree though that there are a hell of a lot of people who haven't a clue how to manage their money, and that does not mean they are p..sing it away. It means what it says.
Where I draw the line on this though is the suggestion that MoW with the available resource that they have, are delivering meals to entire families and able bodied ones at that.
Categorically that does not occur!
However Chris, I have every intention of following up what you have said even if it means contacting someone in Brisbane.
MoW does not need to have the valuable service it provides diminished in this manner.
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Oct 15th 2013 | 3:30 am
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
Small anecdote. My brother in the UK is a mad keen Socialist Party activist who thinks everyone should more or less get everything for free. He lives next door to a mother with 4 kids living entirely on benefits, and admitted to 'coming over a bit Daily Mail' when he found out she was spending 100 pounds a month on cable TV. It's funny if you know him 
