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#91
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:05:22 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >It's not going to cost me anything, because I'm not going to run it, and
... >I don't run XP on my mac either.
...
... Which is what I implied. You will miss the fun of finding out what upgrading to
... Vista will give you..
I bought a new computer three months ago - hopefully I'll wait three or four years to
"enjoy" Vista...
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >It's not going to cost me anything, because I'm not going to run it, and
... >I don't run XP on my mac either.
...
... Which is what I implied. You will miss the fun of finding out what upgrading to
... Vista will give you..
I bought a new computer three months ago - hopefully I'll wait three or four years to
"enjoy" Vista...
#92
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:05:55 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >I use it out of habit. Thunderbird is also excellent, and I would use
... >it if I hadn't hacked my old version of Agent.
... >
... >I wouldn't mind paying for a better newsreader, but I haven't found
... >one that does just what I want, without having to learn a whole new
... >system.
...
... Agent 4.2? LOL
DFM wants the flashing colours??
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >I use it out of habit. Thunderbird is also excellent, and I would use
... >it if I hadn't hacked my old version of Agent.
... >
... >I wouldn't mind paying for a better newsreader, but I haven't found
... >one that does just what I want, without having to learn a whole new
... >system.
...
... Agent 4.2? LOL
DFM wants the flashing colours??
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:45:28 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Tim C. <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
...
...
... >Not a great difference between them; stay put. I tried others too, but always came back to
... >Agent. Guess I'm too used to it, after 10 years...
...
... can't teach an old dog new tricks. :-)
Well, you surely *can*.
If the dog will be willing to comply, is another matter.
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
...
...
... >Not a great difference between them; stay put. I tried others too, but always came back to
... >Agent. Guess I'm too used to it, after 10 years...
...
... can't teach an old dog new tricks. :-)
Well, you surely *can*.
If the dog will be willing to comply, is another matter.
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Let is be knownst that on Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:24:52 +0100, Tim C.
<[email protected]> writted:
>
>>>> >I pay around £100 a year for upgrades on notation software, but it's
>>>> >worth it. It saves thousands of pounds each year for people like me.
>...
>...
>>Of course that wont stop these guys from spending £100 a year where I
>>spend nothing, and rubbing a PC user's nose in it at every
>
>How often do you use your PC to write music then?
I don't. I use a guitar and my memory instead.
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<[email protected]> writted:
>
>>>> >I pay around £100 a year for upgrades on notation software, but it's
>>>> >worth it. It saves thousands of pounds each year for people like me.
>...
>...
>>Of course that wont stop these guys from spending £100 a year where I
>>spend nothing, and rubbing a PC user's nose in it at every
>
>How often do you use your PC to write music then?
I don't. I use a guitar and my memory instead.
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Let is be knownst that on 31 Jan 2007 01:50:35 -0800,
[email protected] writted:
>On 30 jan, 19:01, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:48:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:29:15 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >I've been using Free Agent to access newsgroups for years. It's no
>> >> >> >longer free and I've got 1 day left to use it without paying.
>>
>> >> >> i paid for Agent.
>>
>> >> >It must be quite special if you pay for it. Why do you?
>>
>> >> because I liked the free version and so paid up. Its not much. Nobody
>> >> pay, no software.
>> >> I'm happy to pay if the price doesn't get silly, which it does for
>> >> some software.
>>
>> >I pay around £100 a year for upgrades on notation software, but it's
>> >worth it. It saves thousands of pounds each year for people like me.
>>
>> Having a Mac you will miss all the fun of finding out exactly what Vista will do
>> for you.
>
>Not really, since the better bits are a copy of Mac OS X
>
>http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/living/16555680.htm
No surprise there. Microsoft has never hidden the fact that it's
strategy is to look for interesting ideas and then improves on them
marginally, and then give it the almighty marketing push.
Macs have always been a source of inspiration for MS.
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[email protected] writted:
>On 30 jan, 19:01, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:48:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:29:15 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >I've been using Free Agent to access newsgroups for years. It's no
>> >> >> >longer free and I've got 1 day left to use it without paying.
>>
>> >> >> i paid for Agent.
>>
>> >> >It must be quite special if you pay for it. Why do you?
>>
>> >> because I liked the free version and so paid up. Its not much. Nobody
>> >> pay, no software.
>> >> I'm happy to pay if the price doesn't get silly, which it does for
>> >> some software.
>>
>> >I pay around £100 a year for upgrades on notation software, but it's
>> >worth it. It saves thousands of pounds each year for people like me.
>>
>> Having a Mac you will miss all the fun of finding out exactly what Vista will do
>> for you.
>
>Not really, since the better bits are a copy of Mac OS X
>
>http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/living/16555680.htm
No surprise there. Microsoft has never hidden the fact that it's
strategy is to look for interesting ideas and then improves on them
marginally, and then give it the almighty marketing push.
Macs have always been a source of inspiration for MS.
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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On 31 Jan 2007 01:50:35 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>On 30 jan, 19:01, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:48:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:29:15 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >I've been using Free Agent to access newsgroups for years. It's no
>> >> >> >longer free and I've got 1 day left to use it without paying.
>>
>> >> >> i paid for Agent.
>>
>> >> >It must be quite special if you pay for it. Why do you?
>>
>> >> because I liked the free version and so paid up. Its not much. Nobody
>> >> pay, no software.
>> >> I'm happy to pay if the price doesn't get silly, which it does for
>> >> some software.
>>
>> >I pay around £100 a year for upgrades on notation software, but it's
>> >worth it. It saves thousands of pounds each year for people like me.
>>
>> Having a Mac you will miss all the fun of finding out exactly what Vista will do
>> for you.
>
>Not really, since the better bits are a copy of Mac OS X
>
>http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/living/16555680.htm
You miss the point. The fun is in running the system evaluation tool that MS
provides that convinced me in seconds that the basic upgrade costing EUR 150
provides almost zero, that I don't have already.
Exactly what are the best bits of Mac that I am missing? What is on offer looks
like 3D cosmetics that I can well do without.
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>On 30 jan, 19:01, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:48:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:29:15 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >I've been using Free Agent to access newsgroups for years. It's no
>> >> >> >longer free and I've got 1 day left to use it without paying.
>>
>> >> >> i paid for Agent.
>>
>> >> >It must be quite special if you pay for it. Why do you?
>>
>> >> because I liked the free version and so paid up. Its not much. Nobody
>> >> pay, no software.
>> >> I'm happy to pay if the price doesn't get silly, which it does for
>> >> some software.
>>
>> >I pay around £100 a year for upgrades on notation software, but it's
>> >worth it. It saves thousands of pounds each year for people like me.
>>
>> Having a Mac you will miss all the fun of finding out exactly what Vista will do
>> for you.
>
>Not really, since the better bits are a copy of Mac OS X
>
>http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/living/16555680.htm
You miss the point. The fun is in running the system evaluation tool that MS
provides that convinced me in seconds that the basic upgrade costing EUR 150
provides almost zero, that I don't have already.
Exactly what are the best bits of Mac that I am missing? What is on offer looks
like 3D cosmetics that I can well do without.
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Martin
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:10:10 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:05:22 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
>
> ... >It's not going to cost me anything, because I'm not going to run it, and
> ... >I don't run XP on my mac either.
> ...
> ... Which is what I implied. You will miss the fun of finding out what upgrading to
> ... Vista will give you..
>
>I bought a new computer three months ago - hopefully I'll wait three or four years to
>"enjoy" Vista...
Aldi is already selling laptops with Vista pre-installed.
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>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:05:22 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
>
> ... >It's not going to cost me anything, because I'm not going to run it, and
> ... >I don't run XP on my mac either.
> ...
> ... Which is what I implied. You will miss the fun of finding out what upgrading to
> ... Vista will give you..
>
>I bought a new computer three months ago - hopefully I'll wait three or four years to
>"enjoy" Vista...
Aldi is already selling laptops with Vista pre-installed.
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Martin
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:12:19 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:05:55 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
>
> ... >I use it out of habit. Thunderbird is also excellent, and I would use
> ... >it if I hadn't hacked my old version of Agent.
> ... >
> ... >I wouldn't mind paying for a better newsreader, but I haven't found
> ... >one that does just what I want, without having to learn a whole new
> ... >system.
> ...
> ... Agent 4.2? LOL
>
>DFM wants the flashing colours??
If he does Agent 4.2 isn't for him.
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Martin
>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:05:55 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
>
> ... >I use it out of habit. Thunderbird is also excellent, and I would use
> ... >it if I hadn't hacked my old version of Agent.
> ... >
> ... >I wouldn't mind paying for a better newsreader, but I haven't found
> ... >one that does just what I want, without having to learn a whole new
> ... >system.
> ...
> ... Agent 4.2? LOL
>
>DFM wants the flashing colours??
If he does Agent 4.2 isn't for him.
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Martin
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Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:45:28 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
> ...
> ...
> ... >Not a great difference between them; stay put. I tried others too, but always came back to
> ... >Agent. Guess I'm too used to it, after 10 years...
> ...
> ... can't teach an old dog new tricks. :-)
>
>Well, you surely *can*.
>
>If the dog will be willing to comply, is another matter.
Are you willing? whisper quietly as Martin might be listening ;-)
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Tim C.
>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:45:28 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
> ...
> ...
> ... >Not a great difference between them; stay put. I tried others too, but always came back to
> ... >Agent. Guess I'm too used to it, after 10 years...
> ...
> ... can't teach an old dog new tricks. :-)
>
>Well, you surely *can*.
>
>If the dog will be willing to comply, is another matter.
Are you willing? whisper quietly as Martin might be listening ;-)
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Tim C.
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:33:07 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:10:10 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:05:22 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... >
... > ... >It's not going to cost me anything, because I'm not going to run it, and
... > ... >I don't run XP on my mac either.
... > ...
... > ... Which is what I implied. You will miss the fun of finding out what upgrading to
... > ... Vista will give you..
... >
... >I bought a new computer three months ago - hopefully I'll wait three or four years to
... >"enjoy" Vista...
...
... Aldi is already selling laptops with Vista pre-installed.
No Aldi in Paris (that I know of) and no use for laptops in this household!
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:10:10 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:05:22 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... >
... > ... >It's not going to cost me anything, because I'm not going to run it, and
... > ... >I don't run XP on my mac either.
... > ...
... > ... Which is what I implied. You will miss the fun of finding out what upgrading to
... > ... Vista will give you..
... >
... >I bought a new computer three months ago - hopefully I'll wait three or four years to
... >"enjoy" Vista...
...
... Aldi is already selling laptops with Vista pre-installed.
No Aldi in Paris (that I know of) and no use for laptops in this household!
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:33:42 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:12:19 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:05:55 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... >
... > ... >I use it out of habit. Thunderbird is also excellent, and I would use
... > ... >it if I hadn't hacked my old version of Agent.
... > ... >
... > ... >I wouldn't mind paying for a better newsreader, but I haven't found
... > ... >one that does just what I want, without having to learn a whole new
... > ... >system.
... > ...
... > ... Agent 4.2? LOL
... >
... >DFM wants the flashing colours??
...
... If he does Agent 4.2 isn't for him.
I installed it when I was configuring the new computer, to try, and got rid of it about
one hour later.
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:12:19 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:05:55 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... >
... > ... >I use it out of habit. Thunderbird is also excellent, and I would use
... > ... >it if I hadn't hacked my old version of Agent.
... > ... >
... > ... >I wouldn't mind paying for a better newsreader, but I haven't found
... > ... >one that does just what I want, without having to learn a whole new
... > ... >system.
... > ...
... > ... Agent 4.2? LOL
... >
... >DFM wants the flashing colours??
...
... If he does Agent 4.2 isn't for him.
I installed it when I was configuring the new computer, to try, and got rid of it about
one hour later.
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:36:55 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Tim C. <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
...
... >On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:45:28 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Tim C. <[email protected]>
... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... > ... Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
... > ...
... > ...
... > ... >Not a great difference between them; stay put. I tried others too, but always came back to
... > ... >Agent. Guess I'm too used to it, after 10 years...
... > ...
... > ... can't teach an old dog new tricks. :-)
... >
... >Well, you surely *can*.
... >
... >If the dog will be willing to comply, is another matter.
...
... Are you willing?
No. Are you?
whisper quietly as Martin might be listening ;-)
No use whispering, he is an old bat!
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
...
... >On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:45:28 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Tim C. <[email protected]>
... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... > ... Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
... > ...
... > ...
... > ... >Not a great difference between them; stay put. I tried others too, but always came back to
... > ... >Agent. Guess I'm too used to it, after 10 years...
... > ...
... > ... can't teach an old dog new tricks. :-)
... >
... >Well, you surely *can*.
... >
... >If the dog will be willing to comply, is another matter.
...
... Are you willing?
No. Are you?
whisper quietly as Martin might be listening ;-)
No use whispering, he is an old bat!
#103
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Let is be knownst that on Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:05:55 +0100, Martin
<[email protected]> writted:
>On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:41:04 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>
>>Let is be knownst that on Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:30:36 +0100, B
>>Vaughan<[email protected]> writted:
>>
>>>On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:29:15 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>>>_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>>
>>>>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:44:59 GMT, AB. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >I've been using Free Agent to access newsgroups for years. It's no
>>>>> >longer free and I've got 1 day left to use it without paying.
>>>>>
>>>>> i paid for Agent.
>>>>
>>>>It must be quite special if you pay for it. Why do you?
>>>
>>>I did too. The pay version had more features than the free version
>>>and didn't cost much. Note that this is software, which we purchased,
>>>not a service that we pay for.
>>
>>I use it out of habit. Thunderbird is also excellent, and I would use
>>it if I hadn't hacked my old version of Agent.
>>
>>I wouldn't mind paying for a better newsreader, but I haven't found
>>one that does just what I want, without having to learn a whole new
>>system.
>
>Agent 4.2? LOL
Check out this email I just got:
"well, thanks for your wonderful reply to my message about using
newsgroups. perhaps you could share some of your undoubt wonderful
knowledge with the poor unfortunates who are not as great as you are"
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<[email protected]> writted:
>On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:41:04 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>
>>Let is be knownst that on Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:30:36 +0100, B
>>Vaughan<[email protected]> writted:
>>
>>>On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:29:15 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>>>_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>>
>>>>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:44:59 GMT, AB. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >I've been using Free Agent to access newsgroups for years. It's no
>>>>> >longer free and I've got 1 day left to use it without paying.
>>>>>
>>>>> i paid for Agent.
>>>>
>>>>It must be quite special if you pay for it. Why do you?
>>>
>>>I did too. The pay version had more features than the free version
>>>and didn't cost much. Note that this is software, which we purchased,
>>>not a service that we pay for.
>>
>>I use it out of habit. Thunderbird is also excellent, and I would use
>>it if I hadn't hacked my old version of Agent.
>>
>>I wouldn't mind paying for a better newsreader, but I haven't found
>>one that does just what I want, without having to learn a whole new
>>system.
>
>Agent 4.2? LOL
Check out this email I just got:
"well, thanks for your wonderful reply to my message about using
newsgroups. perhaps you could share some of your undoubt wonderful
knowledge with the poor unfortunates who are not as great as you are"
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:44:52 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>"well, thanks for your wonderful reply to my message about using
>newsgroups. perhaps you could share some of your undoubt wonderful
>knowledge with the poor unfortunates who are not as great as you are"
I had to check what you that was so arrogant:-
"I use it out of habit. Thunderbird is also excellent, and I would use
it if I hadn't hacked my old version of Agent.
I wouldn't mind paying for a better newsreader, but I haven't found
one that does just what I want, without having to learn a whole new
system."
Eh?
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<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>"well, thanks for your wonderful reply to my message about using
>newsgroups. perhaps you could share some of your undoubt wonderful
>knowledge with the poor unfortunates who are not as great as you are"
I had to check what you that was so arrogant:-
"I use it out of habit. Thunderbird is also excellent, and I would use
it if I hadn't hacked my old version of Agent.
I wouldn't mind paying for a better newsreader, but I haven't found
one that does just what I want, without having to learn a whole new
system."
Eh?
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Mike Reid
UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:13:54 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>How often do you use your PC to write music then?
>
>I don't. I use a guitar and my memory instead.
can you write music?
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UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>How often do you use your PC to write music then?
>
>I don't. I use a guitar and my memory instead.
can you write music?
--
Mike Reid
UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"



