Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:23:49 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
> <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>
> >Let is be knownst that on Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:36:20 +0000,
> >[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) writted:
[]
> >>It's not going to cost me anything, because I'm not going to run it, and
> >>I don't run XP on my mac either.
> >
> >Surely there must be some Windows software you would like?
>
> Agent? :-)

I really do like MacSOUP, but others have problems with it. It doesn't
support binaries, but I don't read them, and individual doesn't do them
anyway.

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Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
wrote:

> Let is be knownst that on Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:24:52 +0100, Tim C.
> <[email protected]> writted:
>
> >
> >>>> >I pay around £100 a year for upgrades on notation software, but it's
> >>>> >worth it. It saves thousands of pounds each year for people like me.
> >...
> >...
> >>Of course that wont stop these guys from spending £100 a year where I
> >>spend nothing, and rubbing a PC user's nose in it at every
> >
> >How often do you use your PC to write music then?
>
> I don't. I use a guitar and my memory instead.

I use a 2B pencil and paper. I use the computer for typesetting the
music. That's what saves the money too.

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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

[]
> You miss the point. The fun is in running the system evaluation tool that
> MS provides that convinced me in seconds that the basic upgrade costing
> EUR 150 provides almost zero, that I don't have already.
>
> Exactly what are the best bits of Mac that I am missing? What is on offer
> looks like 3D cosmetics that I can well do without.

You may not be missing anything- people have different needs for their
computers. I was amazed to the extent that I found spotlight useful- at
first I thought it was an interesting gimmick, and as I was so "neat and
tidy" in my file management, I wouldn't need it. Boy, was I wrong about
that. It just makes finding things practically immediate. I saw some of
the screen shots of the 3D folders on Vista. Looks a bit like Exposé,
which again is surprsingly useful. Certainly, using it with 100 windows
open is a bit gimmicky, but it does have a very useful purpose when
working with lots of documents.

I find the online diary function (via ical) immensely useful, but you do
need to pay for a .mac account for that, and there is competing software
for that on PCs anyway. The dashboard can be very useful, but again,
there are similar apps for windows.

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:39:24 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:33:42 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:12:19 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ... >On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:05:55 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
> ... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
> ... >
> ... >
> ... > ... >I use it out of habit. Thunderbird is also excellent, and I would use
> ... > ... >it if I hadn't hacked my old version of Agent.
> ... > ... >
> ... > ... >I wouldn't mind paying for a better newsreader, but I haven't found
> ... > ... >one that does just what I want, without having to learn a whole new
> ... > ... >system.
> ... > ...
> ... > ... Agent 4.2? LOL
> ... >
> ... >DFM wants the flashing colours??
> ...
> ... If he does Agent 4.2 isn't for him.
>
>I installed it when I was configuring the new computer, to try, and got rid of it about
>one hour later.

I don't think 4.2 is on general release.

It has the best e-mail spam filters I have come across. I have turned off all my
hand made Agent filters except the one that kills 60% of my spam because it is
in an Asian character set.
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Martin

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:44:52 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

>Let is be knownst that on Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:05:55 +0100, Martin
><[email protected]> writted:
>
>>On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:41:04 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>
>>>Let is be knownst that on Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:30:36 +0100, B
>>>Vaughan<[email protected]> writted:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:29:15 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>>>>_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:44:59 GMT, AB. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >I've been using Free Agent to access newsgroups for years. It's no
>>>>>> >longer free and I've got 1 day left to use it without paying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i paid for Agent.
>>>>>
>>>>>It must be quite special if you pay for it. Why do you?
>>>>
>>>>I did too. The pay version had more features than the free version
>>>>and didn't cost much. Note that this is software, which we purchased,
>>>>not a service that we pay for.
>>>
>>>I use it out of habit. Thunderbird is also excellent, and I would use
>>>it if I hadn't hacked my old version of Agent.
>>>
>>>I wouldn't mind paying for a better newsreader, but I haven't found
>>>one that does just what I want, without having to learn a whole new
>>>system.
>>
>>Agent 4.2? LOL
>
>Check out this email I just got:
>
>"well, thanks for your wonderful reply to my message about using
>newsgroups. perhaps you could share some of your undoubt wonderful
>knowledge with the poor unfortunates who are not as great as you are"

No regular would have the courage to post that to you. :-)

So it was all a troll?
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Martin

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:36:55 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:

>Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
>
>>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:45:28 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>>
>> ... Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
>> ...
>> ...
>> ... >Not a great difference between them; stay put. I tried others too, but always came back to
>> ... >Agent. Guess I'm too used to it, after 10 years...
>> ...
>> ... can't teach an old dog new tricks. :-)
>>
>>Well, you surely *can*.
>>
>>If the dog will be willing to comply, is another matter.
>
>Are you willing? whisper quietly as Martin might be listening ;-)

You have mistaken Magda for that old she dog Jaqueloon, who does new tricks.
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Martin

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:42:18 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:36:55 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
> ...
> ... >On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:45:28 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Tim C. <[email protected]>
> ... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
> ... >
> ... > ... Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
> ... > ...
> ... > ...
> ... > ... >Not a great difference between them; stay put. I tried others too, but always came back to
> ... > ... >Agent. Guess I'm too used to it, after 10 years...
> ... > ...
> ... > ... can't teach an old dog new tricks. :-)
> ... >
> ... >Well, you surely *can*.
> ... >
> ... >If the dog will be willing to comply, is another matter.
> ...
> ... Are you willing?
>
>No. Are you?
>
>
>> whisper quietly as Martin might be listening ;-)
>
>No use whispering, he is an old bat!

Oi! I heard that.
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Martin

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:13:26 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
>wrote:
>
>> Let is be knownst that on Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:24:52 +0100, Tim C.
>> <[email protected]> writted:
>>
>> >
>> >>>> >I pay around £100 a year for upgrades on notation software, but it's
>> >>>> >worth it. It saves thousands of pounds each year for people like me.
>> >...
>> >...
>> >>Of course that wont stop these guys from spending £100 a year where I
>> >>spend nothing, and rubbing a PC user's nose in it at every
>> >
>> >How often do you use your PC to write music then?
>>
>> I don't. I use a guitar and my memory instead.
>
>I use a 2B pencil and paper. I use the computer for typesetting the
>music. That's what saves the money too.

With the new Vista LloydWebber(TM) option installed you whistle/hum a tune and
Vista converts it into something more melodic, adds meaningless lyrics and
provides the musical notation. :-)
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Martin

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:13:26 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Let is be knownst that on Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:24:52 +0100, Tim C.
> >> <[email protected]> writted:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >>>> >I pay around £100 a year for upgrades on notation software, but it's
> >> >>>> >worth it. It saves thousands of pounds each year for people like me.
> >> >...
> >> >...
> >> >>Of course that wont stop these guys from spending £100 a year where I
> >> >>spend nothing, and rubbing a PC user's nose in it at every
> >> >
> >> >How often do you use your PC to write music then?
> >>
> >> I don't. I use a guitar and my memory instead.
> >
> >I use a 2B pencil and paper. I use the computer for typesetting the
> >music. That's what saves the money too.
>
> With the new Vista LloydWebber(TM) option installed you whistle/hum a tune and
> Vista converts it into something more melodic, adds meaningless lyrics and
> provides the musical notation. :-)

Oh, there are free programmes (and expensive ones) that attempt to do
something similar!

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Martin:
> David Horne

> >I use a 2B pencil and paper. I use the computer for typesetting the
> >music.
>
> With the new Vista LloydWebber(TM) option installed you whistle/hum a tune and
> Vista converts it into something more melodic, adds meaningless lyrics and
> provides the musical notation. :-)

Then it goes on, organising your first World Tour, printing admission
tickets and flyers, hiring security staff and ordering your first extra-
long limousine.
Of course, it cancels all interviews in the first four weeks due to lack
of time and internal RAM capacity.


--
Erick

Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :

>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:36:55 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
>>
>>>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:45:28 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>>>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>>>
>>> ... Following up to Magda <[email protected]> :
>>> ...
>>> ...
>>> ... >Not a great difference between them; stay put. I tried others too, but always came back to
>>> ... >Agent. Guess I'm too used to it, after 10 years...
>>> ...
>>> ... can't teach an old dog new tricks. :-)
>>>
>>>Well, you surely *can*.
>>>
>>>If the dog will be willing to comply, is another matter.
>>
>>Are you willing? whisper quietly as Martin might be listening ;-)
>
>You have mistaken Magda for that old she dog Jaqueloon, who does new tricks.

Jaqueloon does any and all tricks, however little they pay.
--
Tim C.

Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :

> adds meaningless lyrics ...

...unless you have the optional TimRice plug-in installed.
--
Tim C.

Erick T. Barkhuis <[email protected]> wrote:

> Martin:
> > David Horne
>
> > >I use a 2B pencil and paper. I use the computer for typesetting the
> > >music.
> >
> > With the new Vista LloydWebber(TM) option installed you whistle/hum a
> > tune and Vista converts it into something more melodic, adds meaningless
> > lyrics and provides the musical notation. :-)
>
> Then it goes on, organising your first World Tour, printing admission
> tickets and flyers, hiring security staff and ordering your first extra-
> long limousine.
> Of course, it cancels all interviews in the first four weeks due to lack
> of time and internal RAM capacity.

In this context, I read RAM quite differently!

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:47:04 +0100, Erick T. Barkhuis
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Martin:
>> David Horne
>
>> >I use a 2B pencil and paper. I use the computer for typesetting the
>> >music.
>>
>> With the new Vista LloydWebber(TM) option installed you whistle/hum a tune and
>> Vista converts it into something more melodic, adds meaningless lyrics and
>> provides the musical notation. :-)
>
>Then it goes on, organising your first World Tour, printing admission
>tickets and flyers, hiring security staff and ordering your first extra-
>long limousine.

Buying large estates in the Newbury area.

>Of course, it cancels all interviews in the first four weeks due to lack
>of time and internal RAM capacity.

and produces songs that you have the feeling that you have heard before, but
cant pin down, just like Lionel Bart Release 2 did.
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Martin

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:50:41 +0100, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:

>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>
>> adds meaningless lyrics ...
>
>...unless you have the optional TimRice plug-in installed.

:-)
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Martin