Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
Jul 22nd 2007, 11:07 am
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:02:45 +0100, "tim....."
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I flew out of LHR on tuesday morning, I got to the airport 1 hour
>> before the flight time, was through check in and security in plenty of
>> time to have both a shower and a nice breakfast and a read of email
>> before boarding - I didn't see any big queues.
>
>You were lucky. I flew from there two weeks before.
>
>I checked in with plenty of time but because I couldn't
>take my lunch through security I hung around land side
>fo an hour.
>
>I joined the security queue 1.5 hours before my flight and
>got to the gate just minutes before they were going to
>offload my luggage!
Hmm, I've taken about 20 out of LHR T4 this year, including 2 weeks
ago (oh the joys of visiting Leiden), only once have there been
significant delays anywhere, which was at security, so from my
experience, you'd definately be "unlucky".
Maybe it's the fact I always fly very early, or mid-day, never at the
rush times.
Jim.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> I flew out of LHR on tuesday morning, I got to the airport 1 hour
>> before the flight time, was through check in and security in plenty of
>> time to have both a shower and a nice breakfast and a read of email
>> before boarding - I didn't see any big queues.
>
>You were lucky. I flew from there two weeks before.
>
>I checked in with plenty of time but because I couldn't
>take my lunch through security I hung around land side
>fo an hour.
>
>I joined the security queue 1.5 hours before my flight and
>got to the gate just minutes before they were going to
>offload my luggage!
Hmm, I've taken about 20 out of LHR T4 this year, including 2 weeks
ago (oh the joys of visiting Leiden), only once have there been
significant delays anywhere, which was at security, so from my
experience, you'd definately be "unlucky".
Maybe it's the fact I always fly very early, or mid-day, never at the
rush times.
Jim.
Jul 22nd 2007, 11:25 am
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
In article <[email protected]>, Martin says...
> It's OK Alfred, you have a right to travel which ever route you prefer. :-)
Believe me, had there been an economic way to avoid flying through
London, I would have used that, but there was no choice at that time :-(
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> It's OK Alfred, you have a right to travel which ever route you prefer. :-)
Believe me, had there been an economic way to avoid flying through
London, I would have used that, but there was no choice at that time :-(
--
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Jul 22nd 2007, 11:50 am
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:25:42 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Martin says...
>
>> It's OK Alfred, you have a right to travel which ever route you prefer. :-)
>
>Believe me, had there been an economic way to avoid flying through
>London, I would have used that, but there was no choice at that time :-(
I believed you :-)
--
Martin
>In article <[email protected]>, Martin says...
>
>> It's OK Alfred, you have a right to travel which ever route you prefer. :-)
>
>Believe me, had there been an economic way to avoid flying through
>London, I would have used that, but there was no choice at that time :-(
I believed you :-)
--
Martin
Jul 22nd 2007, 11:53 am
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:02:45 +0100, "tim....."
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> I flew out of LHR on tuesday morning, I got to the airport 1 hour
>>> before the flight time, was through check in and security in plenty of
>>> time to have both a shower and a nice breakfast and a read of email
>>> before boarding - I didn't see any big queues.
>>
>>You were lucky. I flew from there two weeks before.
>>
>>I checked in with plenty of time but because I couldn't
>>take my lunch through security I hung around land side
>>fo an hour.
>>
>>I joined the security queue 1.5 hours before my flight and
>>got to the gate just minutes before they were going to
>>offload my luggage!
>
> Hmm, I've taken about 20 out of LHR T4 this year, including 2 weeks
> ago (oh the joys of visiting Leiden), only once have there been
> significant delays anywhere, which was at security, so from my
> experience, you'd definately be "unlucky".
I agree. However IMHO in the current situation you have to
plan on the unlucky, and not the lucky, timings
> Maybe it's the fact I always fly very early, or mid-day, never at the
> rush times.
This was mid-day (as I think was apparent from the use of the
word 'lunch').
tim
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> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:02:45 +0100, "tim....."
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> I flew out of LHR on tuesday morning, I got to the airport 1 hour
>>> before the flight time, was through check in and security in plenty of
>>> time to have both a shower and a nice breakfast and a read of email
>>> before boarding - I didn't see any big queues.
>>
>>You were lucky. I flew from there two weeks before.
>>
>>I checked in with plenty of time but because I couldn't
>>take my lunch through security I hung around land side
>>fo an hour.
>>
>>I joined the security queue 1.5 hours before my flight and
>>got to the gate just minutes before they were going to
>>offload my luggage!
>
> Hmm, I've taken about 20 out of LHR T4 this year, including 2 weeks
> ago (oh the joys of visiting Leiden), only once have there been
> significant delays anywhere, which was at security, so from my
> experience, you'd definately be "unlucky".
I agree. However IMHO in the current situation you have to
plan on the unlucky, and not the lucky, timings
> Maybe it's the fact I always fly very early, or mid-day, never at the
> rush times.
This was mid-day (as I think was apparent from the use of the
word 'lunch').
tim
Jul 22nd 2007, 11:59 am
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:53:58 +0100, "tim....."
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Maybe it's the fact I always fly very early, or mid-day, never at the
>> rush times.
>
>This was mid-day (as I think was apparent from the use of the
>word 'lunch').
The use of breakfast in my response was probably misleading as it was
an 11:40 or so flight...
Jim.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Maybe it's the fact I always fly very early, or mid-day, never at the
>> rush times.
>
>This was mid-day (as I think was apparent from the use of the
>word 'lunch').
The use of breakfast in my response was probably misleading as it was
an 11:40 or so flight...
Jim.
Jul 22nd 2007, 12:49 pm
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:25:42 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]>
wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Martin says...
>
>> It's OK Alfred, you have a right to travel which ever route you prefer. :-)
>
>Believe me, had there been an economic way to avoid flying through
>London, I would have used that, but there was no choice at that time :-(
Everything has a price.
Next year I have several options for the route from Cairo to
Yucatan - but I like London and New York so I'm prepared to
suffer the hassles of their airports for the pleasure of
re-aquainting myself with the cities.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
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wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Martin says...
>
>> It's OK Alfred, you have a right to travel which ever route you prefer. :-)
>
>Believe me, had there been an economic way to avoid flying through
>London, I would have used that, but there was no choice at that time :-(
Everything has a price.
Next year I have several options for the route from Cairo to
Yucatan - but I like London and New York so I'm prepared to
suffer the hassles of their airports for the pleasure of
re-aquainting myself with the cities.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/
latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management
Jul 22nd 2007, 12:53 pm
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:02:45 +0100, "tim....."
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>You were lucky. I flew from there two weeks before.
>
>I checked in with plenty of time but because I couldn't
>take my lunch through security I hung around land side
>fo an hour.
>
>I joined the security queue 1.5 hours before my flight and
>got to the gate just minutes before they were going to
>offload my luggage!
>
>tim
I feel like one of the Cornish miners (luxury! :-)
I was lucky enough to be flying out to Singapore on 23 July
2003.
http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/eiro/...k0308103f.html
It took us 2 1/2 hours in a queue to get in the door. 14
hours later we flew out because Qantas executive staff
eventually manned the check-ins. Most BA flights didn't
leave at all that day.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>You were lucky. I flew from there two weeks before.
>
>I checked in with plenty of time but because I couldn't
>take my lunch through security I hung around land side
>fo an hour.
>
>I joined the security queue 1.5 hours before my flight and
>got to the gate just minutes before they were going to
>offload my luggage!
>
>tim
I feel like one of the Cornish miners (luxury! :-)
I was lucky enough to be flying out to Singapore on 23 July
2003.
http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/eiro/...k0308103f.html
It took us 2 1/2 hours in a queue to get in the door. 14
hours later we flew out because Qantas executive staff
eventually manned the check-ins. Most BA flights didn't
leave at all that day.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
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http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
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Jul 22nd 2007, 3:49 pm
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
"Nobody" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Sheila Page wrote:
>> At the moment, it applies to all UK airports, but all the UK-based
>> airlines are campaigning to change it. By next year, you may be lucky,
>> but Gatwick is less awful than Heathrow in any case.
>
> But the silliness impacts some airport less than others. Because of the
> volume at Heathrow, the silly measures result in far longer lines at
> security checkpoints because Heathrow just doesn't have the money to hire
> enough people to process all the passengers quickly with those silly
> measures. Heathrow wants the government to either remove the silliness, or
> pay for the security measures.
>
> What is interesting is that it was obvious from day 1 that this would
> happen, yet airlines/airports are only now complaining, a couple weeks
> after Bliar left.
You must be living on some other planet to the rest of us. Here on
Earth the airlines were complaining from day one and while Heathrow
can be a pain its sheer bliss compared with the chore of passing through
airports like JFK or SEATAC
Keith
news:[email protected]...
> Sheila Page wrote:
>> At the moment, it applies to all UK airports, but all the UK-based
>> airlines are campaigning to change it. By next year, you may be lucky,
>> but Gatwick is less awful than Heathrow in any case.
>
> But the silliness impacts some airport less than others. Because of the
> volume at Heathrow, the silly measures result in far longer lines at
> security checkpoints because Heathrow just doesn't have the money to hire
> enough people to process all the passengers quickly with those silly
> measures. Heathrow wants the government to either remove the silliness, or
> pay for the security measures.
>
> What is interesting is that it was obvious from day 1 that this would
> happen, yet airlines/airports are only now complaining, a couple weeks
> after Bliar left.
You must be living on some other planet to the rest of us. Here on
Earth the airlines were complaining from day one and while Heathrow
can be a pain its sheer bliss compared with the chore of passing through
airports like JFK or SEATAC
Keith
Jul 22nd 2007, 8:08 pm
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:49:17 +1000, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:25:42 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>, Martin says...
>>
>>> It's OK Alfred, you have a right to travel which ever route you prefer. :-)
>>
>>Believe me, had there been an economic way to avoid flying through
>>London, I would have used that, but there was no choice at that time :-(
>
>Everything has a price.
>
>Next year I have several options for the route from Cairo to
>Yucatan - but I like London and New York so I'm prepared to
>suffer the hassles of their airports for the pleasure of
>re-aquainting myself with the cities.
LHR will provide you with something to tell your friends when you get home :-)
It's amazing how many post about their airport experiences but sod all about
their experiences at their destination.
--
Martin
>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:25:42 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>, Martin says...
>>
>>> It's OK Alfred, you have a right to travel which ever route you prefer. :-)
>>
>>Believe me, had there been an economic way to avoid flying through
>>London, I would have used that, but there was no choice at that time :-(
>
>Everything has a price.
>
>Next year I have several options for the route from Cairo to
>Yucatan - but I like London and New York so I'm prepared to
>suffer the hassles of their airports for the pleasure of
>re-aquainting myself with the cities.
LHR will provide you with something to tell your friends when you get home :-)
It's amazing how many post about their airport experiences but sod all about
their experiences at their destination.
--
Martin
Jul 22nd 2007, 11:51 pm
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:08:28 +0200, Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>LHR will provide you with something to tell your friends when you get home :-)
>
>It's amazing how many post about their airport experiences but sod all about
>their experiences at their destination.
I loved London and all of the British Isles. I post the
airport experiences here and the latter on the blog. I've
just been lazy lately and stalled at Slovenia:-)
Cheers, Alan, Australia
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>LHR will provide you with something to tell your friends when you get home :-)
>
>It's amazing how many post about their airport experiences but sod all about
>their experiences at their destination.
I loved London and all of the British Isles. I post the
airport experiences here and the latter on the blog. I've
just been lazy lately and stalled at Slovenia:-)
Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
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latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management
Jul 23rd 2007, 7:44 am
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Following up to "Keith Willshaw"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> What is interesting is that it was obvious from day 1 that this would
>> happen, yet airlines/airports are only now complaining, a couple weeks
>> after Bliar left.
>
>You must be living on some other planet to the rest of us. Here on
>Earth the airlines were complaining from day one and while Heathrow
>can be a pain its sheer bliss compared with the chore of passing through
>airports like JFK or SEATAC
what is the situation elsewhere re cabin baggage? I dont remember it
ever being much different from only taking one bag on, its got a bit
smaller and more enforced, the reason being fairly obvious.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>> What is interesting is that it was obvious from day 1 that this would
>> happen, yet airlines/airports are only now complaining, a couple weeks
>> after Bliar left.
>
>You must be living on some other planet to the rest of us. Here on
>Earth the airlines were complaining from day one and while Heathrow
>can be a pain its sheer bliss compared with the chore of passing through
>airports like JFK or SEATAC
what is the situation elsewhere re cabin baggage? I dont remember it
ever being much different from only taking one bag on, its got a bit
smaller and more enforced, the reason being fairly obvious.
--
Mike Reid
Cutty Sark appeal"http://www.cuttysark.org.uk"
City of Adelaide petition
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/cuttysarksister/
to email remove clothing.
Jul 23rd 2007, 8:09 am
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:51:50 +1000, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:08:28 +0200, Martin
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>LHR will provide you with something to tell your friends when you get home :-)
>>
>>It's amazing how many post about their airport experiences but sod all about
>>their experiences at their destination.
>
>I loved London and all of the British Isles. I post the
>airport experiences here and the latter on the blog. I've
>just been lazy lately and stalled at Slovenia:-)
I didn't mean you, Alan.
--
Martin
>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:08:28 +0200, Martin
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>LHR will provide you with something to tell your friends when you get home :-)
>>
>>It's amazing how many post about their airport experiences but sod all about
>>their experiences at their destination.
>
>I loved London and all of the British Isles. I post the
>airport experiences here and the latter on the blog. I've
>just been lazy lately and stalled at Slovenia:-)
I didn't mean you, Alan.
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Martin
Jul 23rd 2007, 9:32 am
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Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:25:42 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>, Martin says...
> >
> >> It's OK Alfred, you have a right to travel which ever route you prefer. :-)
> >
> >Believe me, had there been an economic way to avoid flying through
> >London, I would have used that, but there was no choice at that time :-(
>
> Everything has a price.
>
> Next year I have several options for the route from Cairo to
> Yucatan - but I like London and New York so I'm prepared to
> suffer the hassles of their airports for the pleasure of
> re-aquainting myself with the cities.
Oh, Alan, my guest over the weekend has type 2 diabetes. I went to your
website, and took your idea for burgundy beef- went down a treat!
I
served it with turmeric quinoa- worked excellently.
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> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:25:42 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>, Martin says...
> >
> >> It's OK Alfred, you have a right to travel which ever route you prefer. :-)
> >
> >Believe me, had there been an economic way to avoid flying through
> >London, I would have used that, but there was no choice at that time :-(
>
> Everything has a price.
>
> Next year I have several options for the route from Cairo to
> Yucatan - but I like London and New York so I'm prepared to
> suffer the hassles of their airports for the pleasure of
> re-aquainting myself with the cities.
Oh, Alan, my guest over the weekend has type 2 diabetes. I went to your
website, and took your idea for burgundy beef- went down a treat!
Iserved it with turmeric quinoa- worked excellently.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jul 23rd 2007, 10:14 am
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:32:22 +0100, [email protected]
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> Next year I have several options for the route from Cairo to
>> Yucatan - but I like London and New York so I'm prepared to
>> suffer the hassles of their airports for the pleasure of
>> re-aquainting myself with the cities.
>
>Oh, Alan, my guest over the weekend has type 2 diabetes. I went to your
>website, and took your idea for burgundy beef- went down a treat! I
>served it with turmeric quinoa- worked excellently.
Thanks:-)
I hope your guest also read some of the other pages?
Incidentally, turmeric is a wonderful spice and has other
health advantages. If you want to get the most out of it,
always add a little cracked pepper.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
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http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
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(David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> Next year I have several options for the route from Cairo to
>> Yucatan - but I like London and New York so I'm prepared to
>> suffer the hassles of their airports for the pleasure of
>> re-aquainting myself with the cities.
>
>Oh, Alan, my guest over the weekend has type 2 diabetes. I went to your
>website, and took your idea for burgundy beef- went down a treat!
I>served it with turmeric quinoa- worked excellently.
Thanks:-)
I hope your guest also read some of the other pages?
Incidentally, turmeric is a wonderful spice and has other
health advantages. If you want to get the most out of it,
always add a little cracked pepper.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/
latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management
Jul 23rd 2007, 10:23 am
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Following up to Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
> turmeric is a wonderful spice and has other
>health advantages.
supposed to be good for memory loss, but I can forget things without
the help.
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to email remove clothing.
> turmeric is a wonderful spice and has other
>health advantages.
supposed to be good for memory loss, but I can forget things without
the help.
--
Mike Reid
Cutty Sark appeal"http://www.cuttysark.org.uk"
City of Adelaide petition
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/cuttysarksister/
to email remove clothing.