Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
Jul 21st 2007, 10:09 pm
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:05:12 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]> wrote:
>I flew to from Munich to Morocco via London this February. Was no fun
>when they insisted that I "... make one bag of my big camera bag and the
>small backpack with the notebook computer". These people are really
>weird. I'll avoid flying through London as long as there is this dumb
>rule.
Isn't there a quicker shorter route from Munich to Morocco?
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>I flew to from Munich to Morocco via London this February. Was no fun
>when they insisted that I "... make one bag of my big camera bag and the
>small backpack with the notebook computer". These people are really
>weird. I'll avoid flying through London as long as there is this dumb
>rule.
Isn't there a quicker shorter route from Munich to Morocco?
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Martin
Jul 21st 2007, 10:29 pm
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:05:12 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I flew to from Munich to Morocco via London this February. Was no fun
> >when they insisted that I "... make one bag of my big camera bag and the
> >small backpack with the notebook computer". These people are really
> >weird. I'll avoid flying through London as long as there is this dumb
> >rule.
>
> Isn't there a quicker shorter route from Munich to Morocco?
Almost certainly, but a lot of people fly on price, which is why I've
flown via AMS many times.
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> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:05:12 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I flew to from Munich to Morocco via London this February. Was no fun
> >when they insisted that I "... make one bag of my big camera bag and the
> >small backpack with the notebook computer". These people are really
> >weird. I'll avoid flying through London as long as there is this dumb
> >rule.
>
> Isn't there a quicker shorter route from Munich to Morocco?
Almost certainly, but a lot of people fly on price, which is why I've
flown via AMS many times.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jul 21st 2007, 10:40 pm
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:29:24 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:05:12 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >I flew to from Munich to Morocco via London this February. Was no fun
>> >when they insisted that I "... make one bag of my big camera bag and the
>> >small backpack with the notebook computer". These people are really
>> >weird. I'll avoid flying through London as long as there is this dumb
>> >rule.
>>
>> Isn't there a quicker shorter route from Munich to Morocco?
>
>Almost certainly, but a lot of people fly on price, which is why I've
>flown via AMS many times.
but Germany is full of it's own cut price airlines. There is no need to complain
about Heathrow.
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Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:05:12 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >I flew to from Munich to Morocco via London this February. Was no fun
>> >when they insisted that I "... make one bag of my big camera bag and the
>> >small backpack with the notebook computer". These people are really
>> >weird. I'll avoid flying through London as long as there is this dumb
>> >rule.
>>
>> Isn't there a quicker shorter route from Munich to Morocco?
>
>Almost certainly, but a lot of people fly on price, which is why I've
>flown via AMS many times.
but Germany is full of it's own cut price airlines. There is no need to complain
about Heathrow.
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Martin
Jul 21st 2007, 10:45 pm
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:29:24 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:05:12 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I flew to from Munich to Morocco via London this February. Was no fun
> >> >when they insisted that I "... make one bag of my big camera bag and the
> >> >small backpack with the notebook computer". These people are really
> >> >weird. I'll avoid flying through London as long as there is this dumb
> >> >rule.
> >>
> >> Isn't there a quicker shorter route from Munich to Morocco?
> >
> >Almost certainly, but a lot of people fly on price, which is why I've
> >flown via AMS many times.
>
> but Germany is full of it's own cut price airlines.
In the absence of a direct cheap flight between Munich and Morocco, then
maybe a trip via another country is cheaper...
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> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:29:24 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:05:12 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I flew to from Munich to Morocco via London this February. Was no fun
> >> >when they insisted that I "... make one bag of my big camera bag and the
> >> >small backpack with the notebook computer". These people are really
> >> >weird. I'll avoid flying through London as long as there is this dumb
> >> >rule.
> >>
> >> Isn't there a quicker shorter route from Munich to Morocco?
> >
> >Almost certainly, but a lot of people fly on price, which is why I've
> >flown via AMS many times.
>
> but Germany is full of it's own cut price airlines.
In the absence of a direct cheap flight between Munich and Morocco, then
maybe a trip via another country is cheaper...
--
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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Jul 21st 2007, 10:57 pm
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:45:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:29:24 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:05:12 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I flew to from Munich to Morocco via London this February. Was no fun
>> >> >when they insisted that I "... make one bag of my big camera bag and the
>> >> >small backpack with the notebook computer". These people are really
>> >> >weird. I'll avoid flying through London as long as there is this dumb
>> >> >rule.
>> >>
>> >> Isn't there a quicker shorter route from Munich to Morocco?
>> >
>> >Almost certainly, but a lot of people fly on price, which is why I've
>> >flown via AMS many times.
>>
>> but Germany is full of it's own cut price airlines.
>
>In the absence of a direct cheap flight between Munich and Morocco, then
>maybe a trip via another country is cheaper...
Is there an absence of a direct flight between Munich and Morocco? It seems
unlikely.
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>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:29:24 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:05:12 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I flew to from Munich to Morocco via London this February. Was no fun
>> >> >when they insisted that I "... make one bag of my big camera bag and the
>> >> >small backpack with the notebook computer". These people are really
>> >> >weird. I'll avoid flying through London as long as there is this dumb
>> >> >rule.
>> >>
>> >> Isn't there a quicker shorter route from Munich to Morocco?
>> >
>> >Almost certainly, but a lot of people fly on price, which is why I've
>> >flown via AMS many times.
>>
>> but Germany is full of it's own cut price airlines.
>
>In the absence of a direct cheap flight between Munich and Morocco, then
>maybe a trip via another country is cheaper...
Is there an absence of a direct flight between Munich and Morocco? It seems
unlikely.
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Martin
Jul 21st 2007, 11:02 pm
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:45:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:29:24 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:05:12 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >I flew to from Munich to Morocco via London this February. Was no
> >> >> >fun when they insisted that I "... make one bag of my big camera
> >> >> >bag and the small backpack with the notebook computer". These
> >> >> >people are really weird. I'll avoid flying through London as long
> >> >> >as there is this dumb rule.
> >> >>
> >> >> Isn't there a quicker shorter route from Munich to Morocco?
> >> >
> >> >Almost certainly, but a lot of people fly on price, which is why I've
> >> >flown via AMS many times.
> >>
> >> but Germany is full of it's own cut price airlines.
> >
> >In the absence of a direct cheap flight between Munich and Morocco, then
> >maybe a trip via another country is cheaper...
>
> Is there an absence of a direct flight between Munich and Morocco? It seems
> unlikely.
I said direct _cheap_ flights, though the absence of either direct
flights or direct cheap flights isn't an impossibility.
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> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:45:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:29:24 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:05:12 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >I flew to from Munich to Morocco via London this February. Was no
> >> >> >fun when they insisted that I "... make one bag of my big camera
> >> >> >bag and the small backpack with the notebook computer". These
> >> >> >people are really weird. I'll avoid flying through London as long
> >> >> >as there is this dumb rule.
> >> >>
> >> >> Isn't there a quicker shorter route from Munich to Morocco?
> >> >
> >> >Almost certainly, but a lot of people fly on price, which is why I've
> >> >flown via AMS many times.
> >>
> >> but Germany is full of it's own cut price airlines.
> >
> >In the absence of a direct cheap flight between Munich and Morocco, then
> >maybe a trip via another country is cheaper...
>
> Is there an absence of a direct flight between Munich and Morocco? It seems
> unlikely.
I said direct _cheap_ flights, though the absence of either direct
flights or direct cheap flights isn't an impossibility.
--
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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Jul 21st 2007, 11:05 pm
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <[email protected]> wrote:
> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> > Is there an absence of a direct flight between Munich and Morocco? It seems
> > unlikely.
>
> I said direct _cheap_ flights, though the absence of either direct
> flights or direct cheap flights isn't an impossibility.
TUIfly seem to go to a couple of destinations, but not until November...
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> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> > Is there an absence of a direct flight between Munich and Morocco? It seems
> > unlikely.
>
> I said direct _cheap_ flights, though the absence of either direct
> flights or direct cheap flights isn't an impossibility.
TUIfly seem to go to a couple of destinations, but not until November...
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Jul 22nd 2007, 5:26 am
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In article <[email protected]>, Martin says...
> Isn't there a quicker shorter route from Munich to Morocco?
It was the cheapest flight I was able to book short term and the only
one whose dates were ok.
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> Isn't there a quicker shorter route from Munich to Morocco?
It was the cheapest flight I was able to book short term and the only
one whose dates were ok.
--
Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe
Jul 22nd 2007, 5:27 am
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In article <[email protected]>, Martin says...
> Is there an absence of a direct flight between Munich and Morocco? It seems
> unlikely.
Munich-Marrakech, couldn't find a direct flight, booked short term.
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> Is there an absence of a direct flight between Munich and Morocco? It seems
> unlikely.
Munich-Marrakech, couldn't find a direct flight, booked short term.
--
Alfred Molon
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Jul 22nd 2007, 8:13 am
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:05:27 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> > Is there an absence of a direct flight between Munich and Morocco? It seems
>> > unlikely.
>>
>> I said direct _cheap_ flights, though the absence of either direct
>> flights or direct cheap flights isn't an impossibility.
>
>TUIfly seem to go to a couple of destinations, but not until November...
Condor and Air Maroc both fly from Munich to Morocco.
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Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> > Is there an absence of a direct flight between Munich and Morocco? It seems
>> > unlikely.
>>
>> I said direct _cheap_ flights, though the absence of either direct
>> flights or direct cheap flights isn't an impossibility.
>
>TUIfly seem to go to a couple of destinations, but not until November...
Condor and Air Maroc both fly from Munich to Morocco.
--
Martin
Jul 22nd 2007, 8:44 am
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In article <[email protected]>, Martin says...
> Condor and Air Maroc both fly from Munich to Morocco.
There are no direct flights from MUC to either RAK (Marrakech) or CAS
(Casablanca). There are charter flights to Agadir, but it lied far too
away from my planned itinerary and my time was short.
--
Alfred Molon
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> Condor and Air Maroc both fly from Munich to Morocco.
There are no direct flights from MUC to either RAK (Marrakech) or CAS
(Casablanca). There are charter flights to Agadir, but it lied far too
away from my planned itinerary and my time was short.
--
Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe
Jul 22nd 2007, 8:47 am
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:44:34 +0200, Alfred Molon <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, Martin says...
>
>> Condor and Air Maroc both fly from Munich to Morocco.
>
>There are no direct flights from MUC to either RAK (Marrakech) or CAS
>(Casablanca). There are charter flights to Agadir, but it lied far too
>away from my planned itinerary and my time was short.
It's OK Alfred, you have a right to travel which ever route you prefer. :-)
--
Martin
>In article <[email protected]>, Martin says...
>
>> Condor and Air Maroc both fly from Munich to Morocco.
>
>There are no direct flights from MUC to either RAK (Marrakech) or CAS
>(Casablanca). There are charter flights to Agadir, but it lied far too
>away from my planned itinerary and my time was short.
It's OK Alfred, you have a right to travel which ever route you prefer. :-)
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Jul 22nd 2007, 9:46 am
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:37:35 +0100 "tim....." <[email protected]>
wrote:
:>Personally, If the airport's already at capacity I can't see that as
:>a bad thing.
Wouldn't take that much effort to increase capacity - build a couple of huts
to store even more delayed bags.
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wrote:
:>Personally, If the airport's already at capacity I can't see that as
:>a bad thing.
Wouldn't take that much effort to increase capacity - build a couple of huts
to store even more delayed bags.
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Jul 22nd 2007, 10:02 am
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"Jim Ley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:33:04 -0400, Nobody <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Sheila Page wrote:
>>> At the moment, it applies to all UK airports, but all the UK-based
>>> airlines are campaigning to change it. By next year, you may be lucky,
>>> but Gatwick is less awful than Heathrow in any case.
>>
>>But the silliness impacts some airport less than others. Because of the
>>volume at Heathrow, the silly measures result in far longer lines at
>>security checkpoints because Heathrow just doesn't have the money to
>>hire enough people to process all the passengers quickly with those
>>silly measures.
>
> I flew out of LHR on tuesday morning, I got to the airport 1 hour
> before the flight time, was through check in and security in plenty of
> time to have both a shower and a nice breakfast and a read of email
> before boarding - I didn't see any big queues.
You were lucky. I flew from there two weeks before.
I checked in with plenty of time but because I couldn't
take my lunch through security I hung around land side
fo an hour.
I joined the security queue 1.5 hours before my flight and
got to the gate just minutes before they were going to
offload my luggage!
tim
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> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:33:04 -0400, Nobody <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Sheila Page wrote:
>>> At the moment, it applies to all UK airports, but all the UK-based
>>> airlines are campaigning to change it. By next year, you may be lucky,
>>> but Gatwick is less awful than Heathrow in any case.
>>
>>But the silliness impacts some airport less than others. Because of the
>>volume at Heathrow, the silly measures result in far longer lines at
>>security checkpoints because Heathrow just doesn't have the money to
>>hire enough people to process all the passengers quickly with those
>>silly measures.
>
> I flew out of LHR on tuesday morning, I got to the airport 1 hour
> before the flight time, was through check in and security in plenty of
> time to have both a shower and a nice breakfast and a read of email
> before boarding - I didn't see any big queues.
You were lucky. I flew from there two weeks before.
I checked in with plenty of time but because I couldn't
take my lunch through security I hung around land side
fo an hour.
I joined the security queue 1.5 hours before my flight and
got to the gate just minutes before they were going to
offload my luggage!
tim
Jul 22nd 2007, 10:07 am
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Re: Heathrow losing customers due to 1 bag rule
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:46:14 +0300, Binyamin Dissen
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:37:35 +0100 "tim....." <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>:>Personally, If the airport's already at capacity I can't see that as
>:>a bad thing.
>
>Wouldn't take that much effort to increase capacity - build a couple of huts
>to store even more delayed bags.
Ship the baggage to Schiphol, they are experts at making baggage disappear.
--
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:37:35 +0100 "tim....." <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>:>Personally, If the airport's already at capacity I can't see that as
>:>a bad thing.
>
>Wouldn't take that much effort to increase capacity - build a couple of huts
>to store even more delayed bags.
Ship the baggage to Schiphol, they are experts at making baggage disappear.
--
Martin