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Raffin Jan 16th 2022 8:23 am

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Originally Posted by mikemike (Post 13088388)
LTO COVID shut down

now closed anyone looking for their annual car registration for january now extended to end of february. Line up last week started at 03;00 NOT SURE HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE MANAGED WHEN THEY RE OPEN

Last year cases started to rise in early March, peaked in late April, then fell gradually. My car reg was for early May and same thing happened. LTO kept extending and I got it done in August, no penalty. This time If we follow SA it will be only a month or so once we reach the peak for cases to fall sufficiently for govt offices to re-open. For the NCR we may have passed the peak already, the data lags.

Raffin Jan 16th 2022 9:14 am

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It does seem that new cases in the NCR and surrounding areas are starting to fall. NCR cases yesterday were over 2,4k less than the day before at just under 16,000. Cases in CL and 4A were also down, on the day, by 100 and 700 resp.
But the Bicol, MIMAROPA,WV, EV, Davao and Zamboanga regions all reported more cases. Davao added 161 and Zamboanga's doubled to 506.
Cavite's cases increased by 150 but the other provinces around the NCR all had many less.

The six biggest NCR cities all reported fewer cases in the hundreds Manila 1k less than at its peak last week, QC 1.2k less.
In the other cities Baguio added 202 to 648. Davao had 45 more.
Zamboanga City 66 more to 172.

Regional top 10 cases for last week

NCR 121,710
4A 51,673
CL 24,002
WV 6,306
Cag 4,484
Ilocos 4,452
CV 3,654
CAR 3,341
Bicol 3,153
EV 2,070

Note: the DOH are still holding on to around 30,000 unannounced positive cases.


Bealinehx Jan 16th 2022 9:33 am

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Well if cases are beginning to fall within NCR and it's environs already, this suggests that indeed published figures were massaged for the period leading up to Christmas. "Our World in Data" suggests that this is the case.

Raffin Jan 16th 2022 10:00 am

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Yes, too right!. Or just look at the DOH chart. A good thing about that is it is by estimated date of onset.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...3cefdb25a5.jpg
For the NCR cases 16-22: Dec 472 23-29 Dec: 6,428

Raffin Jan 16th 2022 8:37 pm

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Today 80 odd less cases announced at 37,070. Backlog gave 1,461 cases. Twelve labs were late and if they were not would likely have added about 2k cases.. Positivity 46.0% from 77.4k tests.

Recoveries 34k

Deaths 23, 2 RDs
20 Jan, 1 Sep, ! Apr
1 Sep 2020.

Active 290.938

Severe 1,480, up 5. Critical 304, down 1

NCR ICU 58%, up 1%. National 49%, unchanged
Ward beds 66%, down 1.1%

Protein based vaccines:

https://news.abs-cbn.com/video/news/...constitutional

Unvaccinated but she says she s waiting for a protein based vaccine. Probably to avoid the very small risks with other types being currently offered. But could just be a clever excuse as...
Last year the Philippines tried to get millions of doses of the protein based Novavax vaccine from the US, but the company has had production problems.

Local observation:

Despite rising case numbers in Cavite sense seems to have prevailed in our area.
Today no roving motorbike announcements, checkpoints with Brgy people or police asking where you are going.
No checks on going into the fresh market.
Although in nearby Tagaytay last week they wanted to see your vacc cert to go into groceries.




Bealinehx Jan 16th 2022 9:21 pm

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https://news.abs-cbn.com/video/news/...constitutional

Strange that this point was not raised when restricting senior citizens. Oh, I forgot the election season has already begun.

Raffin Jan 17th 2022 8:40 am

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NCR down by nearly 2,500 to 13,543 yesterday. At 36.5% of national cases. Only one city out of the 6 I am tracking, Taguig, showed an increase.
But CL added about 1k and 4A about 700 cases.

Elsewhere significant increases occurred in the CAR, Ilocos, all 3 Visayan regions and NM.
CV added 371 to1,297 and NM 207 to 546 cases.

In the provinces Laguna again stood out increasing on the day by about 1,500.

CDO's cases doubled to 251 and Cebu City added 145 more to 448.

Raffin Jan 18th 2022 9:04 am

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Yesterday saw the usual weekend test reduction. Only 28.5k with 43.4% positivity. This led, with the help of over 6k cases from backlog, to an announcement of 28,471 new cases .Five labs late. The DOH give information that these would have added about 600 cases.

Recoveries 34,892

Deaths 34, 4 RDs
33 Jan, 1 July 2020

Active: 284,458

Severe 1,484, up 4. Critical 303, down 1
Numbers only slightly up on a week ago.

NCR ICU 53%, down 5%. National 49%, unchanged.
Ward beds 63% down 3%
Encouraging falls.

NCR numbers fell over 3k to just over 10k.
Some regions reported more cases. Except for Cagayan, with 350 more, they were all in the South:
Caraga, Zamboanga, Davao and SOCCSK.
Davao had 155 more with Davao City 11 more.
GenSan had 10 more.

IloIlo City

I'm not tracking this Visayan city but it should be mentioned:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...5e4cb11b07.jpg
Sudden turn around after New Year. Dec 30-Jan 5 79, Jan 6-12 860, 13-19 829.

In the Visayas Cebu City reported 52 more to 500.

Unvaxxed no ride policy:

Exemptions:

https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/01...de-labor-chief

https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/01/19/...no-ride-policy

What about 1 vaccination, waiting for second?

Gazza-d Jan 18th 2022 10:46 am

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Chowking lost our business yesterday, we had a couple of fully vaccinated teenagers with us and they wouldn't allow us to dine in so the whole party got up and left. The security guard checked our vaccine certificates on the way in but wouldn't serve us at the counter. We are level 3 but I couldn't see where minors were excluded.

Raffin Jan 18th 2022 3:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Gazza-d (Post 13088852)
Chowking lost our business yesterday, we had a couple of fully vaccinated teenagers with us and they wouldn't allow us to dine in so the whole party got up and left. The security guard checked our vaccine certificates on the way in but wouldn't serve us at the counter. We are level 3 but I couldn't see where minors were excluded.

I didn't see any notice at the local Jolibee on minors, but I did at the entrance to Alfamart saying no under 18s or over 65s and referring to an IATF resolution from 2020! It's probably not a Chow King rule but the franchisee's own idea. Last year only one local Palawan for many weeks did not provide pens, especially there being no real world examples of transmission from surfaces. Especially unlikely from a pen!

On the vaccs cert both SM and Robinson's now ask for them here. But this morning I noticed there were very few customers in the SM grocery, which unlike Robinsons' is in "town". I would say half what you would expect midweek. Good in a way as there is normally a long wait at the check out. My wife noticed the same thing last week on a Monday. Which should have been a busy time.

Then that same Palawan was also asking for vacc certs. I would guess they will suffer a bigger loss of business than SM.

What good will it do? The probably poorer people not able to shop will be forced to more expensively buy in smaller shops. Where it is less safe! In our area vaccine supply was more limited than in the NCR last year and some probably gave up waiting. Probably in Cavite overall 50% at the most fully and 40% in Upper Cavite. Those, like us, with their own transport could avail of vaccines from two neighboring areas. But Cavite has been included with the NCR at Alert Level 3 and the vaccine policy is only for 3 and above.

Bealinehx Jan 18th 2022 5:45 pm

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There are a number of events happening which will just add to the confusion and mixed interpretations of mandates and resolutions etc.
The first quite obviously is the election season with all the nonsense that will inevitably follow. Secondly there is Omicron. Does any organisation public or private have any idea of the ratios of Delta to Omicron variants that currently prevail throughout these islands. Probably not as there are no rapid lateral flow testing available to the public at large. Politicians will cast an eye at the progress in the UK followed by Europe and later the US and note and pontificate that the pandemic is now magically endemic. So the fun begins.

Raffin Jan 18th 2022 7:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Bealinehx (Post 13088882)
There are a number of events happening which will just add to the confusion and mixed interpretations of mandates and resolutions etc.
The first quite obviously is the election season with all the nonsense that will inevitably follow. Secondly there is Omicron. Does any organisation public or private have any idea of the ratios of Delta to Omicron variants that currently prevail throughout these islands. Probably not as there are no rapid lateral flow testing available to the public at large. Politicians will cast an eye at the progress in the UK followed by Europe and later the US and note and pontificate that the pandemic is now magically endemic. So the fun begins.

One good thing about it being the start of the election season is that candidates are feeling brave and challenging the policies being followed, like no vaxx no travel. But the bad thing will be rallies that will aid the spread of Omicron. Will they be banned? I doubt it.

They don't have the data but I think all the specialists are now sure Omicron is well dominant here, following other countries. Not so much now in Manila (as with London) but in the rest of the country soon the number of confirmed cases you can identify for a certain time will be determined by the maximum capacity of local PCR testing. Always remembering these operations are affected by staff sickness too. Lack of lateral flow tests won't affect the official numbers but will accelerate the spread. In the UK the well subscribed ZOE app's higher numbers from domestic LFTs can be used by decision makers. The ONS in the UK (not the govt) estimate using all data sources the prevalence in England is 1 in 15!

I think here they will stick to their shiny new Alert level system. We will mostly avoid going up the levels to 4 and 5 (where the dreaded face shields are back!) by lack of proper case data and the fact that Omicron is a milder disease not requiring oxygen, ICU etc so much as Delta. The unvaxxed and those with comorbidities will get hospitalized, but there is a young population here so I am guessing we won't have "alarming levels of case growth and use of hospital facilities", as described for level 5. "high and increasing" as for level 4, yes, for some areas. Whether they will eventually talk about Omicron as a "quite good thing in the end" as experts are starting to in other countries (see Dr Js video "Specialists now agree on endemic ending"), that may be too much for them here.

What puzzles me now is whether the administration has any motivations politically about its legacy as it is unclear who they would like to succeed. Will they tend to rush over the next 2-3 months to declare it endemic here or will they keep up the strict regulations in their Alert system? Can anybody win the Presidency promising military style to reduce Covid to flu levels? The generals in charge here would like that. But handing over a growing economy to whoever they eventually latch on to help win the Presidency will probably be the major motivation.

Raffin Jan 18th 2022 7:39 pm

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Today it looks again like a lower number of cases from the weekend at 22,958, but 4,243 were held over and 6 labs were late, which would have added about another 450 cases. Positivity at 43.5% from a higher 62,531 tests.

Recoveries 36,611

Deaths 82, 32 RDs
56 Jan, 8 Oct, 15 Sep, 3 back to Jan 2021

Active; 270,728

Severe 1,487, up 3. Critical 304, up 1

NCR ICU 53%. National 49%
Unchanged.

The cost of level 3

https://www.rappler.com/nation/dole-...-january-2022/






Raffin Jan 19th 2022 10:57 am

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For the NCR "further reductions" as retailers say in the sales. Yesterday 8,376 cases. We can probably now discount the chaotic testing over the recent holidays and although there are many thousands of positive results still held by the DOH there is a downward trend showing, Regions around the NCR also had less cases, some weekend effect maybe, but it looks like they are headed down too.

Elsewhere WV reported about 350 more, SOCCSK 124 more and BARMM 115 more.
NM, MIMAROPA and Bicol all had a few more cases too.

For cities only Paranaque had more, 39, otherwise the other 5 I track all had many less.
Bacolod, Iligan and Zamboanga Cities each had a few more cases.

On the "No vaxx no ride" policy in AL3 areas:

Getting a "health certificate" from the Brgy maybe not easy.
It will push some lazy people to get vaccinated but I don't think it is worth it. Another example of a knee jerk policy from the top here affecting many poor people and heading nowhere.

https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/natio...H?ocid=BingHPC

DOH preparing hospitals in some areas for Omicron:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...df65541a75.jpg
OK, but Omicron can infect the vaccinated too. All areas need to prepare for patients with comorbidities and young kids who can have upper airway conditions. And why use 40% as the cut off?

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...597964c5b1.jpg
Mindanao way behind!

Raffin Jan 19th 2022 7:44 pm

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Tests increased by over 10k for todays total of 31,173 and no cases were held over. In fact 864 were added from the large backlog. Positivity at 43.3%. Late labs would have added nearly 400 more cases.

Recoveries 26,298

Deaths 110 , 59 RDs.
67 Jan, 3 Dec, 8 Nov, 13 Oct
19 back to April

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...9ebbaad53a.jpg
Latest DOH deaths chart, by date of death. Small rise recently and notice the additional lagged deaths showing August-October, indicated by being above the trendline of daily announced.

Active 275,364

Severe 1,468. up 1 Critical 305 up 1
No large movements showing as of yet.

NCR ICU 51%, down 2%. National 50%, up 1%
NCR Ward Beds 60%, down 3%



Bealinehx Jan 20th 2022 8:56 am

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Tune into Dr John's. latest video "Freedom of Information" Very, very interesting. Draw your own conclusions.

Raffin Jan 20th 2022 10:41 am

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The NCR added over 1k new cases yesterday. But all except one region, SOCCSKSARGEN, reported more cases.
The NCR at at a lower 30.3% of all cases Its 6 largest cities with a mixed picture, up and down. Taguig stood out with well over 700 more cases over the previous day.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...b586dca1e7.jpg
The OCTA group confirm a downward case trend.

But the DOH are not:

https://news.abs-cbn.com/video/news/...onavirus-cases

Showing heavy institutional reticence, she probably doesn't want to get ahead of the Secretary. Unless they know something from the very large number of previously confirmed cases they have not yet announced?

Around the NCR Region 4A reported about 1,800 more. Cavite and Laguna had large increases.

In the Visayas both WV and CV over 600 more. EV's more than doubled to 664.
Bacolod City added over 100 to 230 cases.
Bicol added more than 200 to 781.

In Mindanao the NM, Zamboanga and Davao regions each about doubled their new cases.
CDO and Davao Cities had large increases, the latter one of over 500 to 793 cases.

Raffin Jan 20th 2022 12:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Bealinehx (Post 13089277)
Tune into Dr John's. latest video "Freedom of Information" Very, very interesting. Draw your own conclusions.

I'm not surprised. Doctors will put all conditions they can see down on the death certificate. And they're especially likely to put as many as possible if they've been involved in the treatment of that patient. They're not asked for the main cause of death. I think if that were done there would be a lot more than 17k where Covid was the only or main cause.

Also not surprised the authorities kept quiet. They don't want to minimise covid.

Raffin Jan 20th 2022 8:32 pm

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Yesterday over 1.5k more cases and 32,744 announced. But 403 were held back and about 300 were missed due to 3 labs reporting late. Positivity 44.0% from a higher 75.3k tests.

Recoveries 16,385

Deaths 156, 108 RDs
66 Jan, 9 Dec, 7 Nov, 19 Oct
55 back to Dec 2020.

Severe 1,487, down 1. Critical 304, down 1
Very small changes lately. Are these data being reported properly?

Reporting of case numbers:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...399af00bb2.jpg
OCTA presenting DOH data

The DOH still insisting that NCR cases have only "plateaued". Using the argument that there is a lot of antigen testing going on. But there isn't yet, as this article says:

https://mb.com.ph/2022/01/10/free-an...id-cases-eyed/

Case number reporting:

A Rappler headline today.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...3bf5328e60.jpg
But the DOH announced only 278 on Jan 19, then 793 the next day, 126 less than 1,197. Then another 1,020 to come. Going back to Jan 14 and its previous record of 712, that day the DOH announced only 346.

The contact tracing getting even more useless:

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/tops...story/?just_in

Vaccination hesitancy:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...e1e4adce2b.jpg
SWS surveys

Improving but contrast with the UK survey from the ONS.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...81bdc261f5.jpg







NCR ICU 49%, down 2%. National 51%, up 1%
NCR Ward beds 58.6%, down 1.4%


Raffin Jan 21st 2022 9:09 am

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The NCR was down yesterday by more than 2k cases and having a much lower 22.2% of total cases. All of its 6 largest cities were down.
Around the NCR the CL region gained about 1.5k while 4A had about 300 less. Although Cavite added about 150.
Elsewhere in the North the CAR added over 499, Ilocos 500 cases.
Baguio City had over 250 more cases.

In the Visayas WV and EV each added over 200 cases.
Cebu City had over 140 more.

In Mindanao the BARMM, Caraga, Zamboanga and NM regions all added cases. The Davao region stood out with over 600 more cases to a total of 1726.
Davao City's rose 583 to 1,376.

Changes to Alert Levels:

https://www.rappler.com/nation/kalin...-january-2022/

Long Covid

Read down this news report and you can read the first information I've seen here on that issue

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/tops...fficial/story/

A study reported on by the BBC last year suggests a higher incidence:

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57584295







Raffin Jan 21st 2022 8:22 pm

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Today no labs were late and just 138 cases were added from backlog to make 30,552 cases from a lower 68k tests. Positivity up 1.1% to 45.1%.

Recoveries much higher at 41.5k

Deaths 91, 57 RDs

Active cases fell by 11k to 280,619

Severe 1,491, up 4. Critical 305, up 1

NCR ICU 50%, up 1%. National 52%, up 1%

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...808b23d4b5.jpg
Recent US data showing benefit vs hospitalization 50-64yrs of vaccination vs no vaccination. Although a small effect of booster vs 2 doses. From the latest Dr John video.


It seems that in the UK regional Omicron peaks were much less than London's. Will that sort of thing also happen here? But, the low vaccination rates outside the NCR plus....

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...fb7a37c7b4.jpg



Raffin Jan 22nd 2022 12:29 pm

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Yesterday's location data and weekly update

About 600 less NCR cases yesterday, 20.3% of the national total. Less in 5 of the 6 most populated cities. But in Paranaque about 40 more for the second day running.
Cases down by about 1,500 in CL and by less than 400 in region 4A. But Cavite's increased by nearly 400.

Cases up by a few hundred in both the WV and CV regions.
Cebu City's went up by about 150 to 393.

In Mindanao: the Zamboanga, NM and SOCCSK regions all had about 150 more.

Iligan City nearly doubled its daily cases to 104.
GenSan had 27 more to 148.

Weekly Update:

The Philippines: -5.3%

Falling regions:
Percentage falls and numbers of cases.

NCR -41.3% 71,405
CL -5.1 22,772
4A -2.6 50,332

NCR cities: 5 of the 6 largest 34-53% falls. Taguig by only 0.3%.

Provinces around the NCR:

Large % falls in Bulacan and Rizal, by 38 and 28%.
Laguna's rose by 16%, Cavite's by 1%.

Rising regions:
Multiple and numbers of cases.

1 Davao 7.5 6,608
2 Caraga 3.1 2,428
3 Zam 3.0 3.076
4 CV 2.8 10,354
5 NM 2.7 4,462
6 CAR 2.4 2,428
7 SOCCSK 2.1 1,808
8 EV 1.9 3,972
9 Ilocos 1.9 8,619
10 BARMM 1.7 1,739
11 MIM 1.6 1,790
12 WV 1.6 1,835
13 Bic 1.5 4,677
14 Cag 1.5 6,848

Other cities:
Multiples

Baguio 2.0

Bacolod 2.4
Cebu 3.1

CDO 3.0
Davao 3.7
GenSan 2.0
Iligan 3.4
Zam 2.5







Raffin Jan 23rd 2022 12:56 pm

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NCR totals continue to fall by around 1k a day. Yesterday at 5,433. The six largest cities all with less cases. There are under-reporting and backlogs as factors to consider, but the downward trend is clear. CL fell a little but 4A fell by 2k to 4,317. The latter region also on a downward trend for the last few days at least.
In the North the CAR had 800 more. Baguio City with nearly 500 more cases.

Further South Bicol reported about 100 more. WV nearly 500 more, CV over 100 more cases.
Bacolod City had over 100 more cases.

In Mindanao Davao again reported exponential type rises of more than 2k over the day before.
Caraga's numbers rose by about 600. SOCCKSARGEN's increased by over 200. NM was up by about 100.
CDO City had over 100 more but Davao City stood well out with over 900 more cases yesterday than the day before.

Booster:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...3560daacea.jpg

Very good protection against hospitalization immediately and a loss of about 10% after 3 months. But is it a good thing if you get Omicron quickly and get back to 92%, as Dr John put out as something to consider?

The Philippines vs Indonesia:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...b668a067b4.jpg
At the very start of an Omicron surge.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...ad13fefc0c.jpg
Well into Omicron surge, perhaps even starting to fall in at least the populated parts of Luzon.


Strange as last year Indonesia caught Delta a few weeks earlier than the Philippines. Indonesia at 45% fully vaccinated against 53% Philippines.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...4325bfcf06.jpg
Maybe something to do with the increase in positive OFWs lately? Yesterday 143 cases. Last week 164, but in mid Jan 899 for a week.

Raffin Jan 23rd 2022 7:53 pm

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Today 24,938 new cases, 620 were from backlog and 5 labs were late to submit and their cases not included. Positivity 40.6% from 59.9k tests.

Recoveries 35,461

Deaths 47, 11 RDs

Active 262,997

Severe 1,499, up 3. Critical 309, up 1

NCR ICU 47%, down 1% National 51%, down 2%
NCR ward beds 52.1%, down 0.8%

Dr John at his best here talking with an Australian immunologist. Long, but you only need only to watch the first 20 mins or so to learn a lot about covid and the immune system and how it must be kept in balance.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...b2dc6ff8a8.jpg

Bealinehx Jan 23rd 2022 8:07 pm

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Today's Worldometer is showing 24,938 new cases for the Philippines. Published at 16.00 today. Yesterday they reported 29,730.
I wonder who is responsible for passing these statistics on?

Raffin Jan 23rd 2022 8:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Bealinehx (Post 13089934)
Today's Worldometer is showing 24,938 new cases for the Philippines. Published at 16.00 today. Yesterday they reported 29,730.
I wonder who is responsible for passing these statistics on?

That was my typo today, yes 24,938! I just corrected it. Thanks.

Yesterday's Worldometer number was out by 100 or so, but when you click on their source, the DOH bulletin, its showing the correct 29,828.
Then for the day before its more than 100 out from what the DOH now say. And the same for the next day. I hope they eventually correct these numbers in their charts!
I can only guess that each day they are getting some early DOH number to meet their deadline, not the final one.

Raffin Jan 24th 2022 9:05 am

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Testing was down by about 10k due to the weekend effect but still the NCR number yesterday fell by just over 1.4k over the day before, to 4,018, and down to only 16.1% of national cases. For the top 6 NCR cities only QC had an increase in cases.....just a few at 1,030.

Only 4 regions reported more cases. Ilocos surprised with just over 900 more to 1,938. So did Cagayan Valley, with nearly 700 added over the day before to 1,632.

In the Visayas the CV region had 87 more and the Zamboanga Pen. had over 100 more to 619.

Most other cities had less cases but Cebu City had exactly the same total as yesterday, 846.
GenSan and Iligan cities each reported a few more cases.

Bealinehx Jan 24th 2022 10:32 am

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Dr John's latest video on Natural Immunity is very interesting and heartwarming.
So to all of those anti vaxxers stop being selfish!

Raffin Jan 24th 2022 11:33 am

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Originally Posted by Bealinehx (Post 13090117)
Dr John's latest video on Natural Immunity is very interesting and heartwarming.
So to all of those anti vaxxers stop being selfish!

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...a55ffbbac9.jpg

Dr John emphasizes at one point in the video that vaccines are a good thing. But the way most people get their information now this result, and any others like it, will tend to be misinterpreted, sometimes deliberately, by anti vaxxers, and by the hesitant to strengthen their negative opinion of vaccination. That's why the study wasn't publicized by the CDC.
Also, would some crazy people deliberately try to infect themselves? The BBC news recently reported on one such case in E Europe.

On boosters I'm afraid the train, led by Israel, has already left the station, certainly in the developed countries. Although some who are behind in their vaccination roll out could save themselves money by restricting them.

How does this work in countries like the Philippines, where a high percentage of cases have been mild? Is the natural immunity still at a good level? The antibody tests Dr J talks about are not generally available to check that.

Raffin Jan 24th 2022 8:07 pm

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Today a lower weekend affected total of 17,677 with positivity at a lower 37.2%. Possibly fell as testing dropped in the provinces? From backlog 1,356 cases and 6 late labs would have added about 140 cases.

Btw Worldometer has the correct figure today.

Recoveries 33,144

Deaths 79, 35 RDs
60 Jan, 4 Dec,1 Nov and 14 back to March.

Active: 247,451

Severe 1,502, up 3 Critical 30,8, down 1
Severe has crept up last few days.

NCR ICU 44%, down 3%. National 50%, down 1%
NCR continuing fall.

"Stealth" Omicron Variant (BA.2) predominant in most regions!

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/tops...ons-doh/story/

World map of detection so far:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...1cdc178e9d.jpg


https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/01/25/...ooster-experts

Dr Gonzales contradicted about the effect of vaccination after infection by the California/NY data recently reviewed by Dr John in "Natural Immunity" yesterday.




Raffin Jan 25th 2022 9:20 am

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Even though a low test number yesterday there was another substantial fall, of nearly 1,300 cases, in the NCR. Yesterday at 2,751 and 15.4% of national cases.

Region 4A had about 700 less but CL bucked the trend with about 30 more cases.

For other regions all but SOCCSKSARGEN had less cases. It had 186 more at 710.

All provinces around the NCR had less cases.

For other cities Bacolod reported nearly 50 more at 192.
Baguio was unchanged at 387.
GenSan City had 9 more at 203.

Raffin Jan 25th 2022 8:24 pm

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Today 15,789 new cases from 48.7k tests. A lower positivity at 35.8%. Backlog included was only 233 and the 3 late labs probably would have added about 15 cases only. There's still a large backlog in the system, probably over 20k.

Recoveries 32,712

Deaths 66, 10 RDs
65 Jan, 1 Aug

Active 230,410

Severe 1,507, up 5. Critical 308, unchanged
Slow creep up of Severe cases.
NB Primary hospitals only. Most people ill with covid in the past didn't get to them...perhaps with Omicron even less now due to its lower severity.

NCR ICU 42%, down 2%. National 48%, down 2%
NCR Ward beds 50.5%, down over 2%

Omicron plus variant (BA.2)

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...fff93da766.jpg
Dr John in his "daughter of Omicron" video....like a Dr Who episode title!..explains it is a sub-lineage of the original, not from BA.1

First identified here!

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...d296744dda.jpg
Nothing much to worry about, especially if your country has a good level of protection from prior infection or vaccination. Unfortunately we have neither. But we do have a very young population.

Business and the "No vax card, no entry" policy:

This morning, as last week, in our nearest commercial area Palawan pretty deserted. I used it once and checked back later The SM grocery at least 50% below normal.
At Palawan the guard took your card and put it in the plastic container along with the money and docs going behind the counter!

Bealinehx Jan 25th 2022 9:06 pm

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Raffin,
If I went to the Palawan you visited the guard would have to put me in the plastic container as my vaccination card hangs around my neck LOL

Raffin Jan 26th 2022 9:23 am

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Originally Posted by Bealinehx (Post 13090370)
Raffin,
If I went to the Palawan you visited the guard would have to put me in the plastic container as my vaccination card hangs around my neck LOL

You laminated it?
There's no space for a booster on mine so that's maybe another card round your neck?

Bealinehx Jan 26th 2022 9:28 am

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Yes I did. The Marikina issued card also accommodates the booster. I have yet to see if the VacCertPH accomodates the booster.

Raffin Jan 26th 2022 9:44 am

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The regular large daily NCR falls much reduced yesterday at only 300 or so. The daily figure now down to just under 2,500.
At the same 15.6% of national cases.
But Paranaque, Pasig and Taguig cities each had more cases. Paranaque increased the most with 70 more.

For the provinces around the NCR all fell except for Laguna which had 39 more.
In other regions Cagayan had about 70 more cases. Bicol nearly 200 more to 506.

All 3 Visayan regions reported more cases. WV with only 16 more but CV and EV each with over 200 more.
Zamboanga Pen. had 170 more to 469 with Zamboanga City 72 more.

Otherwise all other major cities reported less new cases.

Comelec better do a re-think on their face shield requirement. For one thing they easily get fogged up.

https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/natio...cid=uxbndlbing


Gazza-d Jan 26th 2022 11:06 am

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Originally Posted by Raffin (Post 13090548)
You laminated it?
There's no space for a booster on mine so that's maybe another card round your neck?

Here's mine, just slips in my wallet.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...8986c3cbcd.jpg

Bealinehx Jan 26th 2022 11:56 am

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Wow. That is a sophisticated vaccination card.

Gazza-d Jan 26th 2022 1:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Bealinehx (Post 13090571)
Wow. That is a sophisticated vaccination card.

The lamination shops will reduce your original for about 80 pesos.

mikek1 Jan 26th 2022 2:52 pm

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Yesterday we were travelling from Pangasinan to La Union, a trip we regulary make. Under normal circumstances we just show our vaccinanion card and are let through the border checkpoint. On this occasion we were not let through because the officials demanded a PCR test. Many vehicles suffered the same fate and were turned back.
A PCR test is valid for 2 days and the cost varies, but it can be expensive. Frankly I find this situation ridiculous and frustrating. The Philippines has had 2 years to sort out this Covid problem and seems rules are made then changed. Its irronic that no schools have been open in 2 years. When I chat with local bussiness thay are all complaining How poor bussiness is due to restrictions. What also strikes me is the depreciation of the php. The £ is not a particularly strong currency, however when you convert pesos to £s, US$, Canadian $, etc the php has weakened a lot in just under a month. Could this depreciation be a lack of confidence in the Philippines economy due to its handling of the Covid virus ?


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