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Raffin Jan 5th 2022 9:01 am

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NCR new cases yesterday rose by over 3,600 to nearly 7,500.. Interesting that the % contribution fell a little to 69%. This because cases in 15 of the other 16 regions also rose, not by much in most, but showing more cases and tests after the Xmas holiday and Odette. Central Luzon stood out with over 400 more than the day before.

In the NCR Taguig's cases tripled, Caloocan's and Paranaque's more than doubled. Manila added more than 600, QC had nearly 800 more.

In the provinces around the NCR most more than doubled heir cases, including Laguna which has been put up to Alert Level 3.

Those of you reading my posts over the last year will remember the good father Austriaco. He got himself in the otherwise good OCTA group but I think he is only there to attract donations from religious bodies here. Claimed last year to be working on a new vaccine in the US, but he is always popping up here.
This time he is claiming the vaccination roll out here has been excellent! What a good move it was to be late and use so much Sinovac!

https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/natio...X?ocid=BingHPC

Also claiming 100% of the eligible NCR population are fully vaccinated.
According to ABS-CBN 9.6M 2 doses have gone in there. The official 2021 population figure from the Census is13.5M. Likely to be well down on the true figure as the Census was taken during the pandemic when many had left the NCR. Now they've come back from the provinces, maybe more than left. So let's say 14-15M. About 1.5M are 0.5. leaving at least 3M unvaccinated.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...e5f88db290.jpg
The risk "gain" to the unvaccinated/uninfected in terms of Omicron severity. From the UK Chief Scientific advisor, based on the latest UK data. Of course we don't know, and won't for a long time, what's happening to Delta here.



RedApe Jan 6th 2022 5:43 am

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Originally Posted by Philosophical 11 (Post 13086261)
I was reading an interesting theory that the new variants are coming from the mRNA vaccines. It goes something like this...... The effect of the vaccinations lasts only for a few months hence the booster jabs. But in the meantime the vaccines override the natural immune system and weakens it, and so once the vaccine wears off the body has less chance to fight off infections than those vaccinated.. Their immunity weakens not just for Covid but for all sicknesses.

The RNA interferes with the virus whilst it is replicating, connects with the viruses DNA, and lo and behold, a mutation; a new variant.

I have seen this expounded a few times now which quite frankly goes over my head....but I wonder what our own ''Dr Raffin'' makes of this......

It's simply bunk. The vaccines don't "override the natural immune system". That's not what vaccines do...they aren't like a drug that substitutes for your natural system (think narcotics that replace your natural pain tolerance capacity). Vaccines STIMULATE the immune system. They trigger an immune response to an antigen (foreign body) that encourages two things. The first is to generate an immediate antibody load to deal with the immediate and short term "infection". This level of immediate antibody load is able fight off an immediate infection by Covid-19, but this load wanes over time. Thus you need the second dose for some vaccines, and after that a booster to drive up that immediate front-line defense. If you have a high timer of antibodies you may not even get measurably ill by testing.

The second thing the vaccine does is produce a set of T-cells in the Thymus that have a memory of the original antigen and can quickly manufacture antibodies These antibodies are sometimes more generalised and can attack similar antigens. You might get infected (test positive) but it is these T-cells that are likely to prevent you from getting seriously ill.

So briefly...the use of vaccines does NOT "weaken" a natural immune response. Instead it PREPARES the immune response to an antigen that is actively transmissible. In fact there is some very good evidence that children who don't have an immune system that is regularly exposed to some moderate to easy antigens are likely to have allergies and either extreme immune responses (food allergies) or a lack of sufficient response.

What happens when you don't have a vaccination (or prior exposure to Covid)? Quite simply your immune system has no prior experience with that antigen (Covid-19 in this case). The immune system has no initial targeted antibodies and has to build them from scratch. That can take several days...in the meantime the virus is proliferating exponentially throughout your body, infecting millions of your cells. By the time you start producing antibodies you are certainly infective if not quite sick. If you are older your immune system may already be doddering.

Now RNA vaccines....these use the standard RNA sequence for the spike of the standard Coronavirus-19. They can't cause an infection themselves...they are not a reproducing virus. The mRNA never enters the cell where the DNA is located as it is bound to an "anchor" that is too large to pass through the nuclear membrane. But even if it could it has an inappropriate structure to hybridise with your DNA...it's chemistry has a Uracil nucleic acid base rather than Cytosine. Furthermore the coiling system is different. It has a life expectancy of about a day. The mRNA is used to stimulate the production of the spike protein and then it breaks down just like all mRNA sequences after they are transcribed at the ribosomes.. So you'll have only those spike proteins. Those will trigger the production of antibodies and T-cells. But they will only be a limited number since the vaccine dose is limited and not replicating. Once the antibodies wipe out the spike proteins the spikes also are no longer in your system.



The Coronavirus-19 (in fact all Coronaviruses) are RNA viruses. Not DNA viruses. Hybridisation of a vaccine mRNA with a viral RNA is also unlikely. mRNA is different in structure from the viral RNA. And if they did hybridise all the vaccine mRNA would contribute would be the the code for an already vaccine-protected spike protein. The "outside" Covid virus might have a novel spike. Hybridisation would make it more sensitive to destruction, not less.It would be losing it's uniqueness to gain a immune-system sensitized spike.
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Raffin Jan 6th 2022 8:55 am

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Many thanks RA for that detailed but understandable explanation.

That some people are willing to believe that a particular vaccine could weaken immune responses across the board makes me think this tale was something concocted by anti-vaxxers.

Raffin Jan 6th 2022 9:33 am

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Yesterday we saw about 6,500 more cases. In addition 4,864 cases were held over. Also there was likely another 800 from the 11 late labs. I see reports that labs are struggling to keep up with the demand for testing, so we should expect more of that. Positivity at a very high 36.9% from 59.8k tests.

Recoveries 616

Deaths 81, 66 RDs
6 Jan, 6 Dec, 8 Nov, 19 Oct
The remaining 42 going back to May.

Active: 56,561

Severe 1,470, down 42. Critical 312. down 7

NCR ICU 43%, up 6%. National 31%, up 4%
Ward beds NCR 45.6%
A nearly 9% increase!

One important question is how are the governments Alert Levels going to work, if, as seems likely, the Philippines is well into an Omicron surge?

These are the latest AL 3 area classifications:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...5d9e834e88.jpg

But what with the data delays are we to be soon qualifying for AL 4?

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...ca5ee8231b.jpg
Then in a few weeks AL 5 is imaginable:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...6be5b7358d.jpg
The first part of AL 5 may well be here now!
The last part implies strict lockdowns, the economy badly affected.


Are they going to fight the last war?

They could look to other countries around the world who have not brought in really strict measures.

From a quick look around the SE Asian region travel restrictions and banning mass gatherings seems so far to be the main responses.

Raffin Jan 6th 2022 8:39 pm

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New cases today rise to 21,919 but a whopping 6,201 are held back. Also 10 labs late leading to a likely 300 plus more cases. Positivity at a very high 40.0% from 70k tests.

Recoveries 973

Deaths 129, 111 RDs
8 Jan, 34 Dec, 14 Nov, 26 Oct, 32 Sep and 15 back to April.

Severe 1,461, down 9 Critical 312, unchanged

NCR ICU 48%, up 5%. National 32%, up 1%

Yesterday the NCR with11,630 new cases, additional to Wednesday's by more than 4k.
A slightly lower 68% of all cases..

Region 4A's cases increased by 83% to 3,187.
Manila's cases increased by 38% over the day before, QC's by 34%.

Signs of increases in some other cities, eg Baguio, Bacolod, CDO and Cebu, but the numbers are small for now.

Raffin Jan 7th 2022 9:52 am

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Yesterday saw the NCR put on just over 2k cases and was a lower 63% of all cases .But we have to take account of the large backlog of unannounced test results. Going back 12 days 17.8k have been held and only 241 announced. My guess is that the bulk of these will be from the NCR. Say the NCR accounts for 60%, that could be about 10k waiting to be announced.

In NCR cities QC's numbers yesterday were up 31%, Manila's by 16%.

For other cities Baguio was notable with nearly double the cases yesterday over the previous day at 138.

Vaccinations

https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/natio...L?ocid=BingHPC

Contrast with the UK where only for those with comorbidities. There they are saying only 2 intensive care admissions would be prevented for 1m healthy children vaccinated. Over 50 times greater for those with comorbidities.
Many people, even in the NCR, in groups that spread the virus more readily still unvaccinated.

Getting tough in Cavite on the unvaccinated:

Some difficult conversations looming at the doors, especially with tourists in Tagaytay.
In Bacoor access to government offices restricted and in Kawit a weekly PCR test required. You wonder how they will administer that.

https://www.rappler.com/nation/citie...sons-covid-19/

Cavite is the largest province by population and cases yesterday there increased by 44%.

RedApe Jan 7th 2022 2:16 pm

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I think Ivermectin (as a veterinary pharmaceutical) was created by, scientists working for and still produced and patented by a big pharma company, Merck.Merck scientists also discovered it's application for use to eliminate River Blindness and lymphatic filariasis in humans. For THAT use they have donated enough doses appropriate to humans to affected countries to eliminate the disease. For that the Merck scienttists involved received the Nobel Prize for Medicine.

Merck has decisively stated that Ivermectin should NOT be used for off-licensed and untested uses, such as for Covid-19. They have found no trial evidence fsupporting its application for Covid.

RedApe Jan 7th 2022 2:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Raffin (Post 13086612)
Many thanks RA for that detailed but understandable explanation.

That some people are willing to believe that a particular vaccine could weaken immune responses across the board makes me think this tale was something concocted by anti-vaxxers.


More on that...even the Danish authors say that their study is being misused and is contrary to what they found. They actually say that the mRNA boosters actually improve ones ability to avoid infection against omicron (simply not as much as vs. the Delta variant). They also say there is decisive evidence that the vaccines improve outcomes against serious illness and boosters improve that markedly.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2TE17B

All this indicates that most people, especially those most likely to have serious illness (the elderly or those with comorbities) should get a booster.

Raffin Jan 7th 2022 3:18 pm

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Originally Posted by RedApe (Post 13086836)
I think Ivermectin (as a veterinary pharmaceutical) was created by, scientists working for and still produced and patented by a big pharma company, Merck.Merck scientists also discovered it's application for use to eliminate River Blindness and lymphatic filariasis in humans. For THAT use they have donated enough doses appropriate to humans to affected countries to eliminate the disease. For that the Merck scienttists involved received the Nobel Prize for Medicine.

Merck has decisively stated that Ivermectin should NOT be used for off-licensed and untested uses, such as for Covid-19. They have found no trial evidence fsupporting its application for Covid.

The waters are muddy on Ivermectin. Still I think we need not rely on Merck's view ,the drug is out of patent and maybe they're worried about legal liability. All they can see, like everyone else, is a number of small scale studies, some less than rigorous, and some meta -studies. Dr John has done a number of videos, .if you have the time to look back. I've not seen them all but the ones I did watch gave me the view that it is worth a large sale properly run trial. Which is what has been going on now for 6 months. I mentioned it in an earlier post.

I can't find anything about when it will publish results. Paused before Xmas as they had problems getting Ivermectin from the manufacturer!

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-06-23...rinciple-trial


Raffin Jan 7th 2022 8:16 pm

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Today saw 26,458 cases announced, a pandemic record, but positivity at a higher 43.7% generated another 7,193. Which makes the log jam in the DOH at over 24k of unannounced cases. Six labs late to submit too.

Recoveries 1,656

Deaths 265, 238 RDs

Active 103,017

Severe 1,462, up 1. Critical 307, down 5

NCR ICU 51%, up 3%. National 34%, up 2%

NCR ward beds 62%.
Up over 16% in two days.

Raffin Jan 8th 2022 10:35 am

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Review of yesterday's DOH data:

Given the large number of cases held up in the DOH, equivalent to one day's national total at present, how representative are those that are announced?

When there are late labs the DOH often give you an estimate of how many cases might be missed.
In the same manner they could give an idea of where these unannounced cases are from. But they say nothing. Is it because they're dealing with incomplete and unreliable data a lot of the time?

Yesterday on the figures we have the contribution of the NCR fell by 2% to 61%. But region 4A's rose by the same amount to 21%. Laguna and Rizal provinces led there.

In the NCR the greatest rises were in Taguig, 38% and Paranaque 34%

Elsewhere large % increase in the Central and Western Visayas regions, N Mindanao and Davao, though numbers are still in the low hundreds.

Nearly all other cities outside the NCR had more cases.
Cebu and Davao Cities both doubled their cases over the day before.

Weekly update coming later.

Bealinehx Jan 8th 2022 11:09 am

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No adequate testing = No reliable information

Raffin Jan 8th 2022 7:32 pm

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Weekly update:

For the past week on the previous it's better to use multiples, rather than percentages. The numbers for the week before last, coming from Xmas/New Year must have ben significantly depressed by both demand and supply factors related to testing. And by the usual time lags, those somewhat lengthened by the season.

Top regions by multiple of last week over the week before:

Bicol x14
4A 12
CL 11
NCR 9
Cagayan 8
Ilocos 7
CAR 7
CV 6
EV 6
WV 4

Bicol had 552 cases last week.

The remaining regions, mostly in Mindanao still all had low multiples.

In the NCR multiples for 5 of my tracked cities were between 10 and 15.
But the City of Manila was down at 5.

Provinces around the NCR all between 10 and 14.

OCTA give some of the higher attack rates for the NCR and around:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...51b3f7bf4b.jpg
Infection spreading outwards from the NCR.


For other cities:

Cebu 12
Baguio 10
Cebu 8

Zamboanga City had a creditable 1.4 and only 127 new cases last week.

City numbers outside the NCR not getting very high at present. The highest, Baguio, at 439 last week.




Raffin Jan 9th 2022 8:26 am

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Yesterday the case record broken again with 28,707 announced. But positivity at 44.0% on 77.5k tests means the already large number of unannounced cases grew by 5.4k. Also 14 labs were late.....no details given on them.

From reports the test labs in the NCR are sending tests to the provinces. Even when positive results are confirmed the paperwork is often not right. This has always happened but maybe with the rush to get tested now it is happening more.
Always significant lags here with official case data. Now even longer. One hopes those experts in the DOH can work it out with the help of the unpublished data.

Recoveries: 2579

Deaths: 15, 3RDs

Active: 128,114

Severe 1,465, up 3. Critical 309, up 2
Severe cases have added a few lately after many days of falls.

NCR ICU 52%, up 1%. National 35%, up !%

The NCR with 16,924 cases, that's only 700 or so more than on Saturday. Has it peaked there? Hard to tell with all the disruption to testing.

RedApe Jan 9th 2022 1:23 pm

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Originally Posted by Bealinehx (Post 13086995)
No adequate testing = No reliable information


"I can't find anything about when it will publish results. Paused before Xmas as they had problems getting Ivermectin from the manufacturer!"

Why would a manufacturer not provide sufficient doses to test the effectiveness of the drug for Covid? That only would require a few hundred doses daily for the test pool.

Hmmm....could it be they are making $$$ hands over fist for the drug right now and are out of stock simply because they are putting everything they have on the open (or black) market? And showing that Ivermectin is not effective would stanch that market?


Raffin Jan 9th 2022 2:03 pm

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It's all a bit peevish. It's maybe because they are making a new antiviral molnupiravir. Much more expensive than Ivermectin, which has anyway gone generic. As it is out of patent. 108 brands in one list I saw. I couldn't find a price for original Merck Ivermectin but it must be much more than the generic prices.

For example I take a standard beta blocker pill. For some years I bought the main, maybe original, recommended by the doc, brand. But now I buy an Indian generic, one third of the price. No difference.

I think they are worried that if shown to be useful against covid they will be asked to help by govts and orgs like the WHO to make it in large volumes, ship and distribute to developing countries. The generic manufacturers are likely to be smaller and not so multinational to take on that. If they (Merck) refuse to help their image will greatly suffer around the world. All companies like Merck with shareholders just do enough charitable activity to keep their image up. But this could be a huge task and they couldn't name their price for it. At the same time all that cheap Ivermectin could be competing to a great extent against their new antiviral.

Which makes me think they know the drug has some potential against covid 19.

RedApe Jan 9th 2022 5:57 pm

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If, as you say, the drug is out of patent, then there are myriad local manufacturers and distributors out there. In India alone there are dozens. In fact, the abuse (and subsequent illnes and death) became so widespread that the health authorities withdrew their recommendation for use in severe Covid cases. They withdrew an original recommendation that suggested it could be used as chemoprophylaxis. In any case the benefits were minimal a reduction of risk by 9.7%.

One broad review in July 2021 showed no consistent pattern of success for Ivermectin.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34318930/
And an more recent one
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8684188/

There are several trials that have just completed and are awaiting results. But a lot of these trials confound the results as they involve cocktails of Ivermectin with antivirals and other treatments.

Given the impact that helminthic and nematodes have on the immune system it would not surprise me that those who have infections with these "worms" that are cleared up prophylactically would have a positive outcome in Covid-19 resistance and outcome. It may not be an antiviral capacity at all. Just eliminating the other features that reduce immune response. And it would primarily be of benefit to those classes and countries where endemic helminthic infestations are occurring. That might account for some of the variation in outcomes. It a lot of those receiving were poor, in areas with poor sanitation or food processing hygeine is low, or untreated water supplies...then you'd see the benefits. In those areas with better conditions, or already treated with anti-helminthic drugs (e.g. river-blindness) or where the recipients were drinking treated water...then the benefits might be limited.

If that's true it might be useful, but not a miracle drug or panacea against Covid, and certainly NOT any rationale to avoid getting vaccinated or a booster. In fact it might also facilitate the immune response to vaccinations, and thus improve antibody loads, and enable (after vaccination) the lymphatic system to produce abetter B cell response to novel variant infections. Fewer chronic debilitating "other infections" and you allow the immine system to respond with more intensity and focus on the Covid-19 viral infection.

Bealinehx Jan 9th 2022 7:30 pm

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33,169 new cases reported just now. The pattern of the increases is sharper than Europe and N America. Looks like Omicron is, or will be soon the dominant variant.

Raffin Jan 9th 2022 7:37 pm

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Abuse of ivermectin involves both quantities and trying to use it too late with covid. I recall from a Dr J video.

The big picture is that there are few antivirals, they can be expensive and this is cheap.

We've already talked about all the mostly small random trials that have been done in many countries so we need a large trial from a group working to the highest standards. I don't think I can be accused of being over patriotic if I say that is the one ongoing out of Oxford Uni, running the PRINCIPLE trial:

https://www.principletrial.org/

You make interesting points about its existing use.

Always the messages must be try hard not to be infected in the first place, get vaccinated. But despite both of those people are getting infected and ill. Lately with Omicron it has been much easier to get infected. Illness with Omicron seems generally milder, but the numbers, the implications of them, the age groups, are still being analyzed. What about long covid?

Some people who can't be bothered to get vaccinated, and are anti vaxx, yes, would have another reason, if it is proved to be beneficial, to avoid masking, being vaccinated etc. Never mind, there could be a much greater benefit.

The Oxford trial could have started a lot earlier. This review and meta study looked promising to me when Dr J went through it, though no idea if the paper was later subject to counter argument in other papers

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/.

I don't pretend to fully understand how meta analysis works, but I think it does try to account for biases. Dr J was sufficiently impressed to have Dr Tess Lawrie on again for a long interview.. But as someone else said here he's a nurse. There may well be a to and fro still going on in the medical academic world about that paper which he's not airing on his channel.

So better for us observing from afar to just wait a few months, I would assume, until Oxford or similar trials elsewhere come out with some findings.


Raffin Jan 9th 2022 8:43 pm

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Today 33,169 new cases announced and more confirmed cases still being held on to by the DOH, but today only 519. Still we await many thousands to come out. Ten labs were late, and today we are told that means that it is likely over 2k cases were missed. Positivity almost becoming irrelevant at 46.0% from 73.2k tests.

If it looks like Omicron....

Recoveries 3,725

Deaths 145, 124 RDs
3 from Nov, 18 Oct, 52 Sep and the rest back to Jan 2021.
The DOH saying this death data splurge mostly from the Cagayan Valley.

Active 157,528

Severe 1,461, down 4. Critical 301, down 8
These figures not reflecting Omicron here... yet.

NCR ICU 52%. National 38%, up 3%
Significant national increase while the NCR stable.

Also:

NCR ward beds now 57%, down 5% from 2 days ago.

One reason for testing delays and chaos may be:

https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/natio...r?ocid=BingHPC

The local international picture by new cases yesterday:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...4e0ade573a.jpg
Indonesia posted only 529, Malaysia 2,888.

Bealinehx Jan 9th 2022 9:02 pm

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The local international picture by new cases yesterday:
A quirky list which includes Israel and Lebanon LOL

Raffin Jan 9th 2022 9:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Bealinehx (Post 13087190)
The local international picture by new cases yesterday:
A quirky list which includes Israel and Lebanon LOL

Isn't it!
Israelies mostly had a 3rd booster and now a 4th booster in progress for some.

Raffin Jan 10th 2022 10:56 am

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Bearing in mind that the official data is giving an even more incomplete picture of the situation than usual. yesterday there were only 1.7k more NCR cases.

Caloocan and QC each with about 30% more cases on the day.

CL with a 20% increase, 4A 28%.

Provinces around the NCR with between 26 and 37% increases.

WV with a 36% increase, but only up to 561 cases.

Baguio had a 73 increase to 170.

Is the Pope a Catholic?

https://news.abs-cbn.com/video/news/...fficial-number

Premature babies?

https://www.rappler.com/nation/phili...toddlers-2022/

The Philippines trying to be different, show off again.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...fe0db26e00.jpg
At last, confirmation of Omicron dominance.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...01827bf3c8.jpg
Don't Panic! But unlike Corporal Jones he gives reasons not to.

Raffin Jan 10th 2022 8:16 pm

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Today a lower weekend testing gave 28,007 new cases, including a backlog of 2.015. Many thousands of cases still to come from backlog. Twelve labs late. Information from the DOH suggests they would have added more than 1,600 cases. Positivity 44.5% from 58.4k tests.

Recoveries 4,471

Deaths 219, 184 RDs
17 Jan, 2 Dec, 5 Nov,26 Oct...169 back to Jan

Active 181,016

Severe 1,464, up 3. Critical 295, down 6

NCR ICU 54%, up 2%. National 41%, up 3%
Ward beds 60%, up 3%

Home quarantine:

Lots of people will be doing this:

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/life...atients/story/

They are considering giving them more help:

https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/01/11/...ome-quarantine




Raffin Jan 11th 2022 11:30 am

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New cases nationally were over 5k less yesterday. In each of the three largest regions in terms of cases, NCR, CL and 4A , cases yesterday were down. In the NCR they were down by over 3k. Also in he WV by over 200.
In the NCR 4 of the 6 largest cities had less cases. Paranaque City stood out with 86 more cases.

In the provinces around the NCR only Cavite's increased.... by nearly 250.
Other provinces with significant increases were the CAR, CV and SOCCSKSARGEN.

In other major cities Baguio had 116 more, Cebu City 66 more.

Time to think about this here too?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59944057



Bealinehx Jan 11th 2022 3:27 pm

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"Time to think about this here too?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59944057"

Yes. Cheaper which could mean a higher rate of testing.
From personal experience the PCR testing I had after contracting Covid in August 2020 revealed positive results for 6 weeks. I had no symptoms after about 8 days and even then I knew that I was not contagious after 10 days. I would like to think that they were being very cautious because of my age (then 73) or that they had yet to acknowledge known data.

Raffin Jan 11th 2022 8:50 pm

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Today over 4k more announced cases to 32,246, with 11 labs late and a backlog of just over 3k included. Plenty left from there. The late labs would have added about 1,500 more. Positivity at 45.7% from an increased 63.9k tests.

Recoveries 5,063

Deaths 144, 125 RDs
20 Jan, 8 Dep, 31 Aug
The rest 85 back to Jan.

Active 208.164

Severe 1,468, up 4. Critical 298, plus 3

NCR ICU 56%. National 43%, up 2%

The unvaccinated:

We have a little list...

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/tops..._picks&order=1

This could be interesting.
We couldn't get a vaccination with out municipality, after waiting many weeks got them in a neighbouring one. But we registered with them originally.





Gazza-d Jan 11th 2022 10:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Raffin (Post 13087586)

This could be interesting.
We couldn't get a vaccination with out municipality, after waiting many weeks got them in a neighbouring one. But we registered with them originally.

We just did a walk in at a local mall.

Raffin Jan 12th 2022 8:01 am

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What are they going to do when they get these lists of the unvaccinated? Apart from just sending them to the central government to maybe count, reconcile with vaccination data. Go to their houses, try to persuade them? Shame them locally? Surely not force them to get them?
Many LGUs must be fed up with requests like this when they are busy with vaccinations and the current admin's power is now seen to be on the wane as we approach May. So maybe many won't do much about it. Media reports of surely large numbers of errors in the lists and any untoward incidents may kill it off.

Gazza-d Jan 12th 2022 11:00 am

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They will make the lists, they love making lists then do nothing. The barangay van went around the other day announcing a 10pm to 4 am lockdown, young kids must stop driving motorbikes and they must quieten there exhausts from the new year revelries. So what's changed, nothing.

Bealinehx Jan 12th 2022 1:02 pm

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Making lists is one thing. Who is going to audit the accuracy of such lists?
A pointless exercise because someone thought (yes thought) it would be a good thing to do.

I have worked and lives in a number of former colonies, British and others, and the one thing they all have in common is the love of useless paperwork.

Raffin Jan 12th 2022 1:21 pm

Re: NCR llockdown
 
Yesterday over 4k cases more than Monday were announced with somewhat less than 3k added to the NCR number. Region 4A was up by about 1k, CL by under just over 200. The Bicol, WV and EV regions each more than doubled their cases.

For NCR cities Paranaque added nearly 400 more to 1,438. QC added over 1k more.

For the provinces around the NCR Laguna and Rizal each added about 600 new cases.
Cavite announced about 500 less. Bulacan nearly 100 less.

Bacolod City's cases went up to 82.

Raffin Jan 13th 2022 10:11 am

Re: NCR llockdown
 
Yesterday a record 34,021 new cases announced, but then 3,756 were held over and 7 labs were late. The DOH gave information suggesting they would have added about 2,400. Positivity 47.9% from 78.9k tests.

Recoveries 4,694

Deaths 82, 44 RDs.
37 Jan, 5 Dec, 2 Nov
6 Oct, 13 Sep...the rest,19 going all the way back to April 2020.

Active: 237,387

Severe 1,468. unchanged. Critical 298, unchanged.

NCR ICU 58%, up 2%. National 45%, up 2%
NCR Ward beds 60%

The NCR total slightly down at 17,069 cases.
Given the disruption in testing its total could be very misleading.
CL and 4A regions were each up by a few hundred.

The CAR's nearly tripled to 625.
All other regions showed increases.
Notably in the North the Ilocos and Cagayan numbers nearly doubled to the 800s.
In the South, Caraga, NM and Zamboanga each reported nearly double the previous day's figures.
The Davao region had more than double at 298.

In the six largest NCR cities Caloocan and Pasig each added a few hundred more cases.
Manila and especially QC reported less.

In the provinces around the NCR all except Rizal reported more cases.
Bulacan with over 400 more, Laguna with over 300 more.

Baguio City tripled its cases to 406.
Davao doubled its to 190
Cebu added 80 to 225 and CDO added more than 70 to 117.



Raffin Jan 13th 2022 7:50 pm

Re: NCR llockdown
 
Another case record today, 37,207 new cases announced, but 1,455 were held over. About 1k more could have come from 8 late labs. Positivity 47.3% from 38.7k tests.

Recoveries 9,027

Deaths 81, 58 RDs
21 Jan, 5 Dec, 14 Oct
12 Sep, 9 Aug and 20 going back to Nov 2020.

Active 265,509

Severe 1,469, up 1 and Critical 300, up 2

NCR ICU 55%, down 3%. National 46%, up 1%

..and, finally, the answer to the question "What is the new policy on face shields?"...is...

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/tops...level-4/story/

Areas under Alert Levels 2 and 3 from 16 Jan

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...d80bc0d102.jpg

Areas already under Alert Level 3 from today

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...dddb1a2bcb.jpg

Note: No areas as of now under Alert Level 4.Would be triggered if Health facilities utilisation
exceeds 70%.

Raffin Jan 14th 2022 10:26 am

Re: NCR llockdown
 
NCR figures stable at again slightly in excess of 17k.
The main growth yesterday was in region 4A, which had nearly 1,500 more cases. Most of those from Cavite.
CL added over 300 over the day before.
The regions of Bicol, CV, EV and Davao also had significant increases.

For the cities Baguio, Cebu and Davao each reported significant increases.
Davao had 301 new cases.

Backlog Alert:

Since the start of the year just over 35k positive results were held over, ie not announced on the day, by the DOH. Later they announced just over 5k of them, leaving 30k still unannounced! Some of them will be duplicates etc, but the rest are probably just waiting for more details to be given. Maybe there are also some from December?.
So many and giving a misleading picture.

Latest OCTA report:

They see the NCR and 6 other cities at what they call "critical risk", which is their own classification, not the DOHs.
The NCR and Baguio we know but there are also 5 medium sized cities in their list. Note the high attack rates in some other Visayan cities and in Olongapo.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...e45b751ad5.jpg


Raffin Jan 14th 2022 8:34 pm

Re: NCR llockdown
 
Today another record: 39,004 new cases. Though 1,901 were from backlog. Eight labs late, but no estimates can be made of lost cases. Positivity 47.1% from 78.8k tests.

Recoveries: 23,613
These may well be all Omicron mild cases by now.

Deaths 43, 10 RDs

Active: 280,813

Severe 1,472, up 7. Critical 303, down 6

NCR ICU 55%, unchanged. National 48%, up 2%
NCR Ward beds 67.1%
According to Dr John likely to be occupied mainly by patients with comorbidities made worse by Omicron.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/01/15/...ion-of-omicron

The DOH finally confirm what has been obvious for many days.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/tops...story/?just_in

At last they admit NCR vaccination is incomplete, but better to have said "at least 30%".

DOH gift set out a few weeks too late!

https://news.abs-cbn.com/video/news/...care-kit-chief
PhilHealth's version is P6,000!

The PNP warming up to book the unvaccinated:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...b6ccac722c.jpg
Seems to suggest you need paperwork even if you are going out for essential services!

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...b97c9b21f4.jpg
Latest ZOE UK list of Omicron symptoms

No information here given out by the DOH. But useful if you develop symptoms, know you haven't been exposed lately (and with Omicron that could be only 2 days ago), but still have lingering doubts. Notice fever is not in the top 5.

Eg I had an airborne allergic attack last week. I had all 5 of those ZOE symptoms but also heavily watering eyes and a slight fever. Although I had had something similar some years ago I had made a quick visit to a fairly empty supermarket 2 days before and you hear of Omicron's high transmissibility. Although I knew it from before and the wind conditions were familiar too it was useful not to see "heavily watering eyes" anywhere in a long ZOE list and that fever was way down.

By the way a specialist doctor I consulted after a previous attack said that elevated areas around Tagaytay gave him the most patients. I never got hay fever in the UK but get something here every 2 or 3 years. One of the little known drawbacks to an otherwise healthy place to live.





Raffin Jan 15th 2022 11:26 am

Re: NCR llockdown
 
Yesterday's NCR total was a little under 1.4k more than Friday's. At 47.2% of national cases.
In the 6 largest cities by population Pasig and Taguig cities stood out each with about 400 more cases.
CLs total was about 750 less but Region 4A's increased by 661.

The two largest Visayan regions reported significantly more cases. WV by about 200 and CV by 239.
Zamboanga, NM. Davao and SOCCSK each had moderate increases over the day before.

In the provinces around the NCR Cavite had nearly 500 less cases. But Laguna added over 500 and Rizal over 600 new cases.

For cities CDO, Cebu, Davao and Iligan cities all showed significant increases.
Cebu City's increased by 132.

Weekly update later.

Raffin Jan 15th 2022 5:30 pm

Re: NCR llockdown
 
Weekly update:

National increase last week over the previous one: x2.6

By region:

WV 7.5
EV 6.8
Bic 5.7
BARMM 5.4
NM 5.2
Ilocos 5.1
CAR 4.9
Cag 4.7
Zam 4.5
CV 4.3
SOCCSK 4.2
MIM 4.1
Caraga 3.8
CL 3.3
4A 3.1
Dav 2.4
NCR 2.1

The major growth now is well away from the NCR and the Calabarzon region.

For the 6 NCR cities:
Pasig and Taguig at x2.6 and 2.3
Caloocan x2.2, QC 2.1, Paranaque 2.0 and Manila 1.4

Provinces around the NCR:

Laguna far ahead at x3.8
Bulacan 3.0
Cavite 2.8
Rizal 2.7

For the other major cities I track the range is from x4.0 (Bacolod) - 6.6 (Cebu City).
Last week's totals for each now in the hundreds and thousands.







Raffin Jan 15th 2022 8:56 pm

Re: NCR llockdown
 
Today we had 37,154 new cases announced and another 1,421 were held over to join a large backlog of the unannounced. Positivity slightly up at 47.4% from 81.4k tests.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...e0ffdb7a6a.jpg
Testing levels not yet up to those seen during the Delta surge late last year. Maybe staff sickness is higher now?


Recoveries: 30.037

Deaths 50, 27 RDs
30 Jan, 1 Nov, 1 Oct
18 back to June 2021

Active: 287,856

Severe 1,475, up 3. Critical 305, up 2

NCR ICU 56%, up 2%. National 49%, up 1%

The unvaccinated:

Serious restrictions and requirements announced in Cavite:

https://www.rappler.com/nation/cavit...sons-covid-19/

But how are they going to know who they are. From those lists?
Are they going to go round house to house? Even in upscale subdivisions?

mikemike Jan 15th 2022 11:31 pm

Re: NCR llockdown
 
LTO COVID shut down

now closed anyone looking for their annual car registration for january now extended to end of february. Line up last week started at 03;00 NOT SURE HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE MANAGED WHEN THEY RE OPEN


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