meeeeeeeowwwwwwww NZ dollar in freefall predictions of where it will hit the ground!!
Mar 27th 2006, 9:21 pm
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Re: meeeeeeeowwwwwwww NZ dollar in freefall predictions of where it will hit the ground!!
Originally Posted by dunedindan
hi we came out in dec on a permanent residancy what is this child payment stuff people are going on about it sounds handy if we are entitled to it
any help will be much appeciated
any help will be much appeciated
Sue
Mar 27th 2006, 9:56 pm
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Re: meeeeeeeowwwwwwww NZ dollar in freefall predictions of where it will hit the ground!!
Originally Posted by Andrew Cross
If you are talking about the UK equivalent of Child Benefit, you DONT get it until you have lived as a resident for 12 months. I was hoping to get something along the same lines as the CB in the UK but was disappointed to find that out when we went along to get our IRD number.
Sue
Sue
Start >
Links open in a new windowDescriptionAbout this service
Use this form to register with us to receive family assistance payments. You can register for weekly or fortnightly payments, or payment at the end of the tax year.
When to use this service
Use this service, if you think you meet the criteria to be eligible for family assistance.
You do NOT need to complete this form if:
you are receiving an income tested benefit from Work and Income and you are receiving family support with it, or
your income tested benefit and family support from Work and Income is stopping. Your details will be transferred to us electronically and we will continue to pay your entitlement.
What you will need
a printer - you will need to print out the form after you have submitted it.
your IRD number
your bank account number
the amount of income BEFORE TAX (this may show as gross income on your payslip) you expect to receive for the WHOLE tax year (1 April 2006 to 31 March 2007)
your spouse or partner's full name, IRD number and details of their income earned (before tax and for the WHOLE tax year), if applicable.
the details of the children in your care - full names, date of birth, date the child started living with you (if different from date of birth) and the children's IRD numbers.
Please note: you cannot claim family assistance for any child you receive a Parent's allowance for (only in relation to war pensions and war allowances).
Physical documentation
The following situations will require you to send us further information:
Residence: You will need to send us a copy of your and/or your children's residence permit or returning visa if you meet the residence requirements for family assistance but:
you were NOT born in New Zealand or
you DO NOT have New Zealand citizenship
Business income: If you and/or your partner have business income you may need to send us evidence to support your income estimate. The evidence can be one of the following:
a copy of the annual accounts of the business for the previous year
a set of budgeted accounts of the business for the current year
a return filed for the previous tax year.
Children's IRD number If any child doesn't already have an IRD number you need to complete an IRD number application - children (IR594) . We will still pay you family assistance for that child for eight weeks without an IRD number. After that time your family assistance for that child will be stopped.
After you finish
When you have submitted this form please print it out, sign it and keep it for your records
it might not hurt to try
Mar 27th 2006, 11:02 pm
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Re: meeeeeeeowwwwwwww NZ dollar in freefall predictions of where it will hit the ground!!
Originally Posted by MV5555
Family assistance registration form 2007
Start >
Links open in a new windowDescriptionAbout this service
Use this form to register with us to receive family assistance payments. You can register for weekly or fortnightly payments, or payment at the end of the tax year.
When to use this service
Use this service, if you think you meet the criteria to be eligible for family assistance.
You do NOT need to complete this form if:
you are receiving an income tested benefit from Work and Income and you are receiving family support with it, or
your income tested benefit and family support from Work and Income is stopping. Your details will be transferred to us electronically and we will continue to pay your entitlement.
What you will need
a printer - you will need to print out the form after you have submitted it.
your IRD number
your bank account number
the amount of income BEFORE TAX (this may show as gross income on your payslip) you expect to receive for the WHOLE tax year (1 April 2006 to 31 March 2007)
your spouse or partner's full name, IRD number and details of their income earned (before tax and for the WHOLE tax year), if applicable.
the details of the children in your care - full names, date of birth, date the child started living with you (if different from date of birth) and the children's IRD numbers.
Please note: you cannot claim family assistance for any child you receive a Parent's allowance for (only in relation to war pensions and war allowances).
Physical documentation
The following situations will require you to send us further information:
Residence: You will need to send us a copy of your and/or your children's residence permit or returning visa if you meet the residence requirements for family assistance but:
you were NOT born in New Zealand or
you DO NOT have New Zealand citizenship
Business income: If you and/or your partner have business income you may need to send us evidence to support your income estimate. The evidence can be one of the following:
a copy of the annual accounts of the business for the previous year
a set of budgeted accounts of the business for the current year
a return filed for the previous tax year.
Children's IRD number If any child doesn't already have an IRD number you need to complete an IRD number application - children (IR594) . We will still pay you family assistance for that child for eight weeks without an IRD number. After that time your family assistance for that child will be stopped.
After you finish
When you have submitted this form please print it out, sign it and keep it for your records
it might not hurt to try
Start >
Links open in a new windowDescriptionAbout this service
Use this form to register with us to receive family assistance payments. You can register for weekly or fortnightly payments, or payment at the end of the tax year.
When to use this service
Use this service, if you think you meet the criteria to be eligible for family assistance.
You do NOT need to complete this form if:
you are receiving an income tested benefit from Work and Income and you are receiving family support with it, or
your income tested benefit and family support from Work and Income is stopping. Your details will be transferred to us electronically and we will continue to pay your entitlement.
What you will need
a printer - you will need to print out the form after you have submitted it.
your IRD number
your bank account number
the amount of income BEFORE TAX (this may show as gross income on your payslip) you expect to receive for the WHOLE tax year (1 April 2006 to 31 March 2007)
your spouse or partner's full name, IRD number and details of their income earned (before tax and for the WHOLE tax year), if applicable.
the details of the children in your care - full names, date of birth, date the child started living with you (if different from date of birth) and the children's IRD numbers.
Please note: you cannot claim family assistance for any child you receive a Parent's allowance for (only in relation to war pensions and war allowances).
Physical documentation
The following situations will require you to send us further information:
Residence: You will need to send us a copy of your and/or your children's residence permit or returning visa if you meet the residence requirements for family assistance but:
you were NOT born in New Zealand or
you DO NOT have New Zealand citizenship
Business income: If you and/or your partner have business income you may need to send us evidence to support your income estimate. The evidence can be one of the following:
a copy of the annual accounts of the business for the previous year
a set of budgeted accounts of the business for the current year
a return filed for the previous tax year.
Children's IRD number If any child doesn't already have an IRD number you need to complete an IRD number application - children (IR594) . We will still pay you family assistance for that child for eight weeks without an IRD number. After that time your family assistance for that child will be stopped.
After you finish
When you have submitted this form please print it out, sign it and keep it for your records
it might not hurt to try
Sue
Mar 28th 2006, 12:13 am
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Re: meeeeeeeowwwwwwww NZ dollar in freefall predictions of where it will hit the ground!!
Originally Posted by Andrew Cross
If you are talking about the UK equivalent of Child Benefit, you DONT get it until you have lived as a resident for 12 months. I was hoping to get something along the same lines as the CB in the UK but was disappointed to find that out when we went along to get our IRD number.
Sue
Sue
Mar 28th 2006, 12:19 am
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Re: meeeeeeeowwwwwwww NZ dollar in freefall predictions of where it will hit the ground!!
Originally Posted by dunedindan
thanks all who replied to this i have been on tax website and think it is right that we dont get it for 12 months but am going to fill forms out anyway to see what happens (i know in uk as soon as they crawl from under wagon they are entitled to something)
Sue
Mar 28th 2006, 2:01 am
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Re: meeeeeeeowwwwwwww NZ dollar in freefall predictions of where it will hit the ground!!
Originally Posted by CWEMM02
I just looked around on the IRD website and progressed to www.workingforfamilies.govt.nz. I couldn't find any information on elibility related to residency status. However, I recall reading in the package of information that came with the ITA that we couldn't have social benefits until two years had passed. Perhaps that means unemployment payments, welfare and the like. I would be interested to hear what others have found out.
Here's the link for the calculator to work out how much you'll get.
http://www.ird.govt.nz/calculators/k...mate-2007.html
Mar 28th 2006, 3:44 pm
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Re: meeeeeeeowwwwwwww NZ dollar in freefall predictions of where it will hit the ground!!
Originally Posted by sky
People are claiming it who are on PR and have just arrived so you should be able to get it. It's called Family Assistance and there is a new in work payment coming in as of April 1st which you should qualify for too if you or your partner work .. I think it's more than 30hrs a week.
Here's the link for the calculator to work out how much you'll get.
http://www.ird.govt.nz/calculators/k...mate-2007.html
Here's the link for the calculator to work out how much you'll get.
http://www.ird.govt.nz/calculators/k...mate-2007.html
keep us posted about the new applicants for the family assistance
Mar 28th 2006, 3:44 pm
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Re: meeeeeeeowwwwwwww NZ dollar in freefall predictions of where it will hit the ground!!
Originally Posted by MV5555
keep us posted about the new applicants for the family assistance
btw dollar still on the tumble 2.90
Mar 28th 2006, 4:22 pm
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Re: meeeeeeeowwwwwwww NZ dollar in freefall predictions of where it will hit the grou
Originally Posted by dunedindan
thanks all who replied to this i have been on tax website and think it is right that we dont get it for 12 months but am going to fill forms out anyway to see what happens (i know in uk as soon as they crawl from under wagon they are entitled to something)
To be eligible to receive family assistance you must be aged 16 or older and meet at least one of the following residence requirements:
* You are a New Zealand resident and have been in New Zealand continuously for at least 12 months at any time. You need to be both a tax resident and resident in New Zealand when you apply for your payments.
* You are caring for a child who is both resident and present in New Zealand
From that I'd say if you have children then the 12mth rule doesn't apply, would explain why people are getting it from day one.
Mar 28th 2006, 4:23 pm
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Re: meeeeeeeowwwwwwww NZ dollar in freefall predictions of where it will hit the ground!!
Originally Posted by MV5555
btw dollar still on the tumble 2.90
Very interesting right now. I'm still sitting tight and soooo glad I did not use my Investors visa at the end of 2005 - I quite happily let that expire... ;-)
Mar 29th 2006, 9:14 am
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Re: meeeeeeeowwwwwwww NZ dollar in freefall predictions of where it will hit the ground!!
Originally Posted by Paladin
Here's my currency trader's point of view from purely a personal standpoint.... from a technical standpoint only, i.e. from a chart analysis point of view:-
At time of writing we just hit a new high of 2.8477 on this leg of new recent uptrend. The down trend line from the high of 3.7150 to a low of 2.4128 has been broken so we are in a current uptrend.
When the pound ran up vs the NZD to 3.7150 there was a spike low at 2.9166; this will form one area of resistance on this run up; ie potential halting point to the run up. When the GBP then weakened from 3.7150 down to NZD of 2.4128 there was another spike low at 2.8612, which will form another resistance point on the current run up.
The last run down from 3.7150 to 2.4128 yields fibonacci resistance levels at 33.3% of 2.8464(hit today!!!), 38.2% of 2.9102. After that we're talking the 50% retracement being 3.0639!!!
So I will be watching the 2.8464 to 2.9166 area for signs of the NZD strengthening, ie GBP uptrend breakdown, as a possible area to buy a chunk of our NZ dollars on a forward contract(ie lock the rate in).
If it breaks through 2.945 the charts don't look like there's anything stopping the run up to 3.00 at least. I personally will then look to lock in some more of our money around 3.00 on another forward contract.
Remember you can use Forward Contracts with your currency broker(eg Halo, HIFX etc) to lock in a rate if it reaches a level you're happy with so if it does suddenly start heading back down you've protected yourself.
On a cautionary note the daily chart is already looking quite overbought; the relative strength index already in the overbought area of the indicator; doesn't mean it can't go higher but will possibly mean we could see some more consolidation before another leg up.
Remember this is just my technical view; fundamentals are something else....ya never know when the NZ central bank could throw a spanner in the works on interest rates etc etc.
Hope that helps a bit!!!
Dave
At time of writing we just hit a new high of 2.8477 on this leg of new recent uptrend. The down trend line from the high of 3.7150 to a low of 2.4128 has been broken so we are in a current uptrend.
When the pound ran up vs the NZD to 3.7150 there was a spike low at 2.9166; this will form one area of resistance on this run up; ie potential halting point to the run up. When the GBP then weakened from 3.7150 down to NZD of 2.4128 there was another spike low at 2.8612, which will form another resistance point on the current run up.
The last run down from 3.7150 to 2.4128 yields fibonacci resistance levels at 33.3% of 2.8464(hit today!!!), 38.2% of 2.9102. After that we're talking the 50% retracement being 3.0639!!!
So I will be watching the 2.8464 to 2.9166 area for signs of the NZD strengthening, ie GBP uptrend breakdown, as a possible area to buy a chunk of our NZ dollars on a forward contract(ie lock the rate in).
If it breaks through 2.945 the charts don't look like there's anything stopping the run up to 3.00 at least. I personally will then look to lock in some more of our money around 3.00 on another forward contract.
Remember you can use Forward Contracts with your currency broker(eg Halo, HIFX etc) to lock in a rate if it reaches a level you're happy with so if it does suddenly start heading back down you've protected yourself.
On a cautionary note the daily chart is already looking quite overbought; the relative strength index already in the overbought area of the indicator; doesn't mean it can't go higher but will possibly mean we could see some more consolidation before another leg up.
Remember this is just my technical view; fundamentals are something else....ya never know when the NZ central bank could throw a spanner in the works on interest rates etc etc.
Hope that helps a bit!!!
Dave
Late in US trading hours last nite NZD hit 2.9091 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok so I was expecting the high to hit a range of 2.9102-2.9166 per my points above, but hey what can you do; I was only off by 1 cent!!!
No commissions required but all karma gratefully accepted, heehee!!
Profit taking now under way in London trading. Pivot Point analysis says todays low shouldn't be under 2.871 with a floor at 2.8345 if that level passed. The MACD indicator(it's a technical thingee, sorry!!) is showing no negative divergence so this MAY just be profit taking with another run up to come; but its the currency markets so we're talking the worlds biggest casino here, so anything could happen!!! :scared:
If anyone wants the pants bored off them talking currencies feel free to contact me personally; PM, email whatever; no probs!!
Cheers,
Dave
Mar 29th 2006, 9:46 am
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How odd!
"meeeeeeeowwwwwwww NZ dollar in freefall predictions of where it will hit the ground!!".................what a very strange title for a thread of this nature.
Mar 30th 2006, 8:24 am
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Re: How odd!
i think it is from "the dead cat bounce" - A temporary recovery from a major drop
Originally Posted by Nice Guy
"meeeeeeeowwwwwwww NZ dollar in freefall predictions of where it will hit the ground!!".................what a very strange title for a thread of this nature.
Apr 4th 2006, 7:50 am
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Re: How odd!
Originally Posted by tease
i think it is from "the dead cat bounce" - A temporary recovery from a major drop
good call teese .......after a slight recovery its on the slide again recovered to 2.81 now back to 2.89 will hit hit the 3.00 on this run?
nothing the nz $ can rely on at the moment it will have to dance to the tune of other major currencies which sudgests it will keep dropping.
May 5th 2006, 3:36 pm
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Re: How odd!
Originally Posted by MV5555
good call teese .......after a slight recovery its on the slide again recovered to 2.81 now back to 2.89 will hit hit the 3.00 on this run?
nothing the nz $ can rely on at the moment it will have to dance to the tune of other major currencies which sudgests it will keep dropping.
nothing the nz $ can rely on at the moment it will have to dance to the tune of other major currencies which sudgests it will keep dropping.
here we are again in the 2.90 to the £ will it hit the 3.00 this run?
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