New DEFRA Regs from January 2012
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Re: New DEFRA Regs from January 2012
I'm concerned for my dog and the travelling involved. She is quite old, (12) and is not a good traveller at all, she frets terribly even on the short trip in the car to the dog groomers.
In what way was your dog stressed? Could you just tell by his behaviour or was he sick during the flight? I've used some of the natural stress relievers for my dog but they don't appear to have any effect
In what way was your dog stressed? Could you just tell by his behaviour or was he sick during the flight? I've used some of the natural stress relievers for my dog but they don't appear to have any effect
I have used those chewy stress recieves on Toby, but they don't seem to affect him either.
They won't allow an animal to be drugged though - they won't accept them if they think they have - more for their protection as if they are groggy and go through turbulence etc. they can't keep their balance and could get hurt.
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Re: New DEFRA Regs from January 2012
I'm concerned for my dog and the travelling involved. She is quite old, (12) and is not a good traveller at all, she frets terribly even on the short trip in the car to the dog groomers.
In what way was your dog stressed? Could you just tell by his behaviour or was he sick during the flight? I've used some of the natural stress relievers for my dog but they don't appear to have any effect
In what way was your dog stressed? Could you just tell by his behaviour or was he sick during the flight? I've used some of the natural stress relievers for my dog but they don't appear to have any effect
If she is in good shape - she should be ok - have you talked to the vet about it.
I have used those chewy stress recieves on Toby, but they don't seem to affect him either.
They won't allow an animal to be drugged though - they won't accept them if they think they have - more for their protection as if they are groggy and go through turbulence etc. they can't keep their balance and could get hurt.
I have used those chewy stress recieves on Toby, but they don't seem to affect him either.
They won't allow an animal to be drugged though - they won't accept them if they think they have - more for their protection as if they are groggy and go through turbulence etc. they can't keep their balance and could get hurt.
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Re: New DEFRA Regs from January 2012
If she is in good shape - she should be ok - have you talked to the vet about it.
I have used those chewy stress recieves on Toby, but they don't seem to affect him either.
They won't allow an animal to be drugged though - they won't accept them if they think they have - more for their protection as if they are groggy and go through turbulence etc. they can't keep their balance and could get hurt.
I have used those chewy stress recieves on Toby, but they don't seem to affect him either.
They won't allow an animal to be drugged though - they won't accept them if they think they have - more for their protection as if they are groggy and go through turbulence etc. they can't keep their balance and could get hurt.
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Re: New DEFRA Regs from January 2012
I know it is worrying - I would be scared to death until we got there and saw them. I would spend the whole flight wondering how they are doing and probably bugging the crew to have someone go down and check on them. I think it is something they should do - regardless.
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That is one thing they do suggest - an unwashed shirt or something.
I know it is worrying - I would be scared to death until we got there and saw them. I would spend the whole flight wondering how they are doing and probably bugging the crew to have someone go down and check on them. I think it is something they should do - regardless.
I know it is worrying - I would be scared to death until we got there and saw them. I would spend the whole flight wondering how they are doing and probably bugging the crew to have someone go down and check on them. I think it is something they should do - regardless.
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Re: New DEFRA Regs from January 2012
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Re: New DEFRA Regs from January 2012
I have flown dogs twice with no problems and mine are very tiny - Chihuahuas. They did really well and were not affected at all by the trips.
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Re: New DEFRA Regs from January 2012
He is smaller than the smallest of our 3 cats -
I think I saw where you have mentioned you flew them overseas and back unless I am wrong.
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Re: New DEFRA Regs from January 2012
You are correct........my children were in college and I was recently divorced. I was in panic mode. I missed my kids too much and returned several months later.
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Re: New DEFRA Regs from January 2012
That is one thing they do suggest - an unwashed shirt or something.
I know it is worrying - I would be scared to death until we got there and saw them. I would spend the whole flight wondering how they are doing and probably bugging the crew to have someone go down and check on them. I think it is something they should do - regardless.
I know it is worrying - I would be scared to death until we got there and saw them. I would spend the whole flight wondering how they are doing and probably bugging the crew to have someone go down and check on them. I think it is something they should do - regardless.
I won't even be on the flight with them I've decided it will be far too much for me to do on my own, so they'll be going on a couple of days before me.
My husband will collect them at the other end in Manchester. I will be frantic until I have seen them via Skype, hopefully settled and curled up asleep
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Re: New DEFRA Regs from January 2012
I was a blubbering mess when I left her at Cargo , a blubbering mess when I boarded the plane, so much so that the pilot asked to see me and assured me it would all be fine as he asked me the optimal tempreture she'd be comfortable at in the hold and set it to that while I was in the cockpit.
It was the worst flight of my life. Once we arrived at Manchester and went to collect her from the pet reception area, she was wandering about behind the counter, being treated like a lady - when she saw us she barked several times, wagged her tail at us as if to say WTF did you just do to me? she was in great shape! thankfully.
We stayed over at an airport hotel that night, we were all tired and stressed and I didn't want the dog to just come off a stressful flight then be put in the back of a car and driver for another 4 hours. It was the right decision for us all.
I think I was more stressed than the dog. 4 months in, she has settled right in. Good luck to you , it will be fine
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Re: New DEFRA Regs from January 2012
If it's any help - we travelled back from Toronto to Manchester Dec 2012, with a 12 year Golden. I too was frantic (she was on the same plane as us) our dog wasn't a bad car traveller but wasn't overly keen, she was afraid of loud noises and a bit skittish. In her kennel we had a soft bed and an old t-shirt with our scent on it.
I was a blubbering mess when I left her at Cargo , a blubbering mess when I boarded the plane, so much so that the pilot asked to see me and assured me it would all be fine as he asked me the optimal tempreture she'd be comfortable at in the hold and set it to that while I was in the cockpit.
It was the worst flight of my life. Once we arrived at Manchester and went to collect her from the pet reception area, she was wandering about behind the counter, being treated like a lady - when she saw us she barked several times, wagged her tail at us as if to say WTF did you just do to me? she was in great shape! thankfully.
We stayed over at an airport hotel that night, we were all tired and stressed and I didn't want the dog to just come off a stressful flight then be put in the back of a car and driver for another 4 hours. It was the right decision for us all.
I think I was more stressed than the dog. 4 months in, she has settled right in. Good luck to you , it will be fine
I was a blubbering mess when I left her at Cargo , a blubbering mess when I boarded the plane, so much so that the pilot asked to see me and assured me it would all be fine as he asked me the optimal tempreture she'd be comfortable at in the hold and set it to that while I was in the cockpit.
It was the worst flight of my life. Once we arrived at Manchester and went to collect her from the pet reception area, she was wandering about behind the counter, being treated like a lady - when she saw us she barked several times, wagged her tail at us as if to say WTF did you just do to me? she was in great shape! thankfully.
We stayed over at an airport hotel that night, we were all tired and stressed and I didn't want the dog to just come off a stressful flight then be put in the back of a car and driver for another 4 hours. It was the right decision for us all.
I think I was more stressed than the dog. 4 months in, she has settled right in. Good luck to you , it will be fine
I feel bad enough going away - hate leaving them
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Re: New DEFRA Regs from January 2012
I won't even be on the flight with them I've decided it will be far too much for me to do on my own, so they'll be going on a couple of days before me.
My husband will collect them at the other end in Manchester. I will be frantic until I have seen them via Skype, hopefully settled and curled up asleep
My husband will collect them at the other end in Manchester. I will be frantic until I have seen them via Skype, hopefully settled and curled up asleep
Are you going with air animal or doing it all yourself.
They will come (for a fee of course) and pick them up from your house and take them to the airport.
It is a lot, especially when there is more than one.
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Re: New DEFRA Regs from January 2012
it's just a case of waiting until I have a set date to leave USA once the house has sold before I begin the rushing round getting all the necessary rabies vaccines and microchipping done
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Re: New DEFRA Regs from January 2012
Confused.com!
My vet has sent me a copy of the 3rd Country certificate for my dog but it's different from the one on the Defra website. One is old and one is new and I don't know which is which
I have sent a copy to Defra by email so hopefully they will respond before I leave. They seem very slow on the emails.
My vet has sent me a copy of the 3rd Country certificate for my dog but it's different from the one on the Defra website. One is old and one is new and I don't know which is which
I have sent a copy to Defra by email so hopefully they will respond before I leave. They seem very slow on the emails.