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I saw a picture of Liverpool watching the Redsox in Boston last night.

They play a rejuvenated FC Toronto tomorrow a couple of hundred yards from my condo.

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I will be attending the Roma game at Fenway on Wednesday. Will be a break from everything going on this week I hope.

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That will be fantastic.

I visited Boston in 2010. Nice place.

Spurs play some one in Baltimore soon but I have not managed to convince anyone to come on the road trip with me yet. The stadia they are playing in looks fantastic.

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Yes that was the other choice we had but a little too far. I already object to traveling 7 1/2 hours to Boston, but I can't see myself seeing them live in the near future any other way.

I like Boston too but have never been to Fenway.

Will be a nice few days away anyway.

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Yeah but its Spurs so who gives a shit:confused:

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[QUOTE=Oink;10182801]you could well be right.:D

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[QUOTE=JamesM;10183370]

On the assumption King had never had injury problems Terry would not have got close to England or the captaincy.:eek:

as you know l have to disagree with you, ledley king decent enough defender
for the spuds but not in john terry's class.lmho.;)

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That's unique is it?

He took acting lessons hoping to become the next James Bond didn't he?

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Forecast for 2012-2013.........

1 Man United
2 Chelsea
3 Man City
4 Arsenal
5 Liverpool
6 Everton
7 Tottenham
8 Sunderland
9 Stoke
10 Newcastle
11 Fulham
12 Aston villa
13 West Ham
14 Wigan
15 West Brom
16 QPR
17 Norwich
18 Swansea
19 Reading
20 Southampton

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[QUOTE=sw6blue;10183891]John Terry has very little class on her off the pitch.

Any one who ever managed or played the game to a high standard would put King above Terry.

You need to take your prejudice and start looking at the game objectively so people see you as some one who is knowledgable on football rather than just a Chelski fan.

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I'm not going to name 1-20 as it'll take too long but I'll take a punt at the first top few spots

1/ Manchester City
2/ Chelsea
3/ Manchester United (if United sign Van Persie I'll change this to second)
4/ Tottenham (I have to live in hope)
5/ Newcastle
6/ Sunderland
7/ Liverpool

I won't go any lower. For my own reasons I'd love to see Reading and Southampton stay up.

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It's pretty unique in the Premier League.

Most players will state their dissatisfaction and request and move and the club is then able to listen to offers and recoup their investment.

Take Nasri, Van Persie and Modric as examples.

Spurs accepted a 22 million pound bid from Juventus and a similar bid from United.

Campbell refused to talk and sat his contract out for a huge wad of cash upfront and a fatter salary.

That 22 million could have rebuilt a poor team in that era.

The man is unforgivable.

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I would say it's the managers fault for not cashing in if they're that desperate for cash.

If Sinclair doesn't sign this week, he's likely to go. We have let contracts run down and lose players for nothing (De Vries and Pratley recently), it depends if you believe keeping the player for one last season is worth more than cashing in.

For your choices for the end of season's table, Swansea's far too low, Sunderlands too high, Newcastle's too low and Liverpools too high.

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[QUOTE=JamesM;10213784]JamesM mate no need for that, l am only giving my total unbiased opinion.:rofl:

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Stevie the Scouse was the first big Bosman transfer wasn't he?

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At least you've got the Toon and S*******d in the right order.

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[QUOTE=JamesM;10213784]I am neither a Chelsea or Spurs fan..but i have played the game to a very high standard and im a FA qualified coach..technically King is slightly better. However i would put Terry above King simply as he has performed on the big stage in big matches where as King because of injury just hasn't. Only time i can remember King putting a great performance was against France in the opening game of Euro 2004.

Terry and Cole kept England in Euro 2012 on their own.

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[QUOTE=sw6blue;10214033]I was just chain yanking mate! :rofl:

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I actually completely forgot Arsenal.

This was not intentional. I expect them to be somewhere in the mix for 4th or 5th.

I do think City will win again and a bit more convincingly this time than their final day triumph last year.

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[QUOTE=cheeky_monkey;10214881]Spurs had a mighty fine "sick note" pairing of King and Woodgate.

When those two played together they were fantastic. It only happened a dozen or so times although one of these was a memorable league cup performance against a very good Chelsea team.

You take the rough with the smooth. If King had never had injury problems he would've ended up at United or Madrid- we would not have got some extra games out of him at Spurs.

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Sunderland are my surprise package for the season!

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They'll be relegated. What a surprise.

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Ranked 3rd now.......

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-position.html

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I'm surprised Sessegnon hasn't been bought for big bucks by a bigger club :confused:

If he stays at the SoL they'll probably finish at least half a dozen places higher than without him this season.

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[QUOTE=JamesM;10214958]Being fit is an integral part of being a world class player..hence i would choose Terry over King every time..You dont win games from the treatment table.

Anyway it would be nice to see an English team win the Premier league this year.

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Anyway it would be nice to see an English team win the Premier league this year.

By this do you mean a team with all English players
English owned
English managed

If so it aint going to happen.

My not so scientific predictions
1. Manchester club City or Utd
2. The other Manchester club that didnt finish 1st
3. Chelski
After that it will be Spurs, Arsenal, Newcastle and Liverpool fighting for 4,5,6 & 7th spots.

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Can anyone convince me, with good reasons, why spurs and Newcastle will have a good season this year?

I just don't see it. New manager at spurs, Modric unrest. Bale is still there (and I'm wondering why and what his attitude will be like this season).

I don't think Newcastle have much depth in their team. Ba has forgotten how to score goals. I wouldn't put money on Cisse getting the same amount of chances and having the same form as last season.

I'm going for:

1 Chelsea (based on transfer activity this summer)
2 Man City
3 Man United
4 Arsenal
5 Liverpool
6 Sunderland
7 Everton
8 Tottenham
9 Fulham
10 Newcastle
11 Stoke
12 Aston villa
13 QPR
14 West Brom
15 Norwich
16 Wigan
17 Southampton
18 Swansea
19 Reading
20 West Ham

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A team that was 80% English players...British manager (English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish) and not owned by a corporation or wealthy foreign patron.

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Chelsea finished 6th last year and whilst their best performances (backs against the wall) were reserved for the Champions League I don't think they will win it.

They have signed 3 exciting attacking players but with Mata already at the club I think they will struggle to find a balance of a good team and keeping players happy.

I also think that they are need of a young ball winning midfielder.

That is why I have them at 3rd.

I think City will improve on last season as their squad will be more gelled.

The rumor mill has it that we are in for a big transfer weekend at White Hart Lane. As it stands I am a little gloomy about the start of the season as we have only one striker on the books Defoe and Scott Parker is injured and Modric is on his way. This leaves us short up front and in the center of midfield.

I'm amazed you have Liverpool doing so well. I just don't think their team frightens anyone on paper these days.

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Me too, it was due more to an inclination based on the performance of the teams below them, rather than anything to do with their abilities. Suarez seems to be their key player imo, if he can keep his form consistently all season, they'll do OK (so long as he can keep his opinions to himself).

I really enjoyed what I saw of Tottenham last season and I'm hoping they can get that fifth spot this year. So, as soon as they settle into the new leadership and team-up (make the want-aways happy or get rid of them) then I will displace Liverpool with that far more worthy club.

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the reason chelsea had such a poor league position last year was more to do with not being able to break 'lesser' teams down.

they played to their best on the break when teams came at them. as soon as a team dug in, AVB had no plan b and the midfield just kept trying to go through the middle of the defence and kept giving the ball away. the damage was done early on in the season and when RDM took over, the team were obviously concentrating on other competitions.

they have signed these new players to try and give them a bit of an oomph in getting the ball to torres IMO.

as for spurs - well they have AVB now so with no modric, parker getting on a bit and Adebeyor gone. I think they may struggle a bit.

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They hit a lot of posts and missed a lot of penalties last year. My gut feel is that they are only going to get better as the new managers ideas take hold, the new striker has already got off the mark, and hell, even Downing has scored. Things are looking up.


Yes, God loves an optimist...

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I agree they will be better. Last night's game was encouraging. I don't believe they will challenging for a top 4 this year but you have to start somewhere.

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A lot depends on if they can keep it tight at the back now Steve Clark has left...

Only the two Manchester clubs conceded fewer if memory serves...

On the otherhand those two also scored twice as many goals, so like you say.. top 4 would be nice, but you have to start somewhere.

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Likely the bottom four for youse scousers this season.

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Well, well start in 6th, the highest I can remember, the loss of Bolton and Blackburn has helped no end in the alphabetical stakes:p

Based on last season Liverpool can only do better, whereas your beloved toon have their work cut out to improve donchathink?

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Nah, youse'll flog us back AC for a 20 million profit before the month's out. He can play on the bench for Toon just as well as for your lot.

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That sounds suspiciously like judging the season a success based on commercial grounds, like Dalglish and the Liverpool shirt deal....:huh:

Never mind trivia like points and league position eh:)

Anyway, why do they always fill the blank league table alphabetically? Liverpool in 6th, Arsenal on top. Makes more sense to do it based on last seasons finishing positions I think. To be honest I think maybe it confuses Arsene Wenger, it would explains his lack of summer transfer activity every year "Im top of the table over the entire summer, so no need to spend big"...

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Rangers - nursery side for NUFC........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19225698

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Ve haf a plan. Ve vill conker der Welt.