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3 game ban for john l see,l have to say harsh that.:)

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If John is who I think it is then that's two pieces of good news for England in one day. With Lampard crocked and Terry banned they have a chance of getting out of the group.

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Oh dear. It seems that the ban is for European club matches. Shit.

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Isn't a sending off an automatic 3 match ban ? If so, then it's pretty standard isn't it ?

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Funny story, great punchline :rofl:

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/oddball...#ixzz1wYgL2SF2

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This is brilliant http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...d-in-Lego.html


Not that i ever read the sun. Just a random fluke I found it:o

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Sounds like a classy affair............

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ome-brawl.html

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It seems that Harry Redknapp has left Spurs. Apparently Moyes is favourite to take over. :(

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All bad things come to an end.

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I thought he did really well for us until the all that England bollocks came up. Still, time to move on.

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Has he actually left yet or is he still holding out for a bigger payout before he signs up with some club in the middle east?

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I think he even told Sky news that he was gone. I'm quite sure he'll go for middle east payday. I liked Harry as a manager but its time to move on.

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"A group of Belgian fans who put themselves up for sale on eBay after their team failed to qualify for Euro 2012 have been bought by an anonymous Dutch buyer for £2,400."

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/oddball...#ixzz1xmfLUZlM

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Fat lot of good that did the Dutch they've lost both their matches.

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The Netherlands are a bit.... Oh never mind.

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Go on, you want to say, they are a bit crap at the moment.

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Flatly, that's incorrect.

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I have mixed feelings about it. I'm not sure giving him a 3 year contract was the right thing but I would have liked to have given him another year.

Alot of talk about AVB and Moyes. I think of the names linked so far that Martinez excites me.

I'd love to see Klinsmann.

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I was suprised he went, but you cant help think Spurs started to think about life after 'arry once he was a favourite for the England job.

I can see Rafa throwing his hat in the ring for this one now the liverpool job is off limits for sure. The circumstances would suit him, and he would do well there.

Plus he could pick up Torres from Chelsea on the cheap and rehabilitate him;)

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I think the Irish have already done that job for him.

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Rafa wouldn't be on my short list but then nor would AVB.

I am worried. If Spurs planned to do this they should have done it earlier as Rodgers would have been on my list.

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They missed a step there. I'd like Capello but I think his personality is too strong for Levy to handle.

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Much the same with Rafa. He likes to be in control, but on the other hand Levy has a track record of giving the boss money to spend, and that might be enough for him.
If Harry was too old for a 3 year deal, then surely Capello is too old too? Rafas a lot younger, but not as inexperienced as the young up and comers.

Not sure why anyone would discount him from a short list, hes experienced in Europe and the premiership, and has a good track record. Spurs could use some tactical nous. Time will tell I guess, but he seems a good match to the job.

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We're not a Liverpool or an Everton. We don't want to be mid-table dross anymore and I'm afraid thats what Rafa would bring.

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A little unfair and inaccurate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-tim...r_League_Table

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Take a look at his record. Not just the champions league win, which might be considered a fluke were it not for his consistent over achievement in Europe.

He won the spanish league, twice, and not with Barcelona or Reals resources.

The Liverpool squad he was consistently finishing in the top 4 of the premiership with was found to be no better than mid table by the people that followed him... Spurs honestly could do a lot worse.

I suppose the real black mark against both Rafa and Capello is neither are exactly great man managers, likely to put an arm aroung a player, or give them a kick in the arse to turn things around, and after Harry, its hard to see what the current spurs squad (or those who stick around anyway) would make of them.

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Okay back in the day they were both decent teams and we was shit. I wast trying to denigrate either team its just that these days power has seemingly shifted and I don't want to go back to those dark mid-table days and I think Rafa would signal that. But we'll see. While we've finished our new training centre I really want work on our new ground to begin soon.

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Even just going back 10 years (i.e. not "back in the day" ) :

Liverpool record

3rd, 2nd, 5th, 4th, 5th, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 2nd, 7th, 6th, 8th

Spurs record

12th, 9th, 10th, 14th, 9th, 5th, 5th, 11th, 8th, 4th, 5th, 4th.

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As I said, the last few years we've made progress and I'd like to keep making it. Not sure Rafa would do that for us.

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I take your point about the potential issues with Rafa. I was taking issue with your assertion of "mid-table dross" which clearly doesn't bare witness on the stats.

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A poor choice of words. Although Liverpool do look like they are on a definite slide down the table in the last few years. Maybe Rogers will be able to reverse that trend.

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3rd, 2nd, 5th, 4th, 5th, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 2nd, is progress over 4th, 5th, 4th. isnt it?

How many champions league appearences is that? Liverpool were in the Champions league every year under Benitez, including finals and semi final appearances. Spurs made it once under 'arry...

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Much of the "slide" is post Rafa, that was my point. He had one bad year after finishing 2nd the year before, and there was a lot of off the field friction at that time to be fair to him. Rafa has a pretty good record.

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Calm down, clam down eh? There's no need to get defensive I'm just pointing out that we don't want to end up like Liverpool has done over the last three years. Once you get your new stadium built I'm sure you won't have to pay 35 million pounds for players like Andy Carroll. ;)

All I'm saying is if Rafa wasn't good enough for Liverpool he certainly isn't for Spurs.

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Not even sure why I got involved in a meaningless footie conversation. These things rarely end and it's usually a case of agree to disagree.

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Not sure what rational basis there is for thinking Spurs a bigger or better club than Liverpool? Similar fan bases, similar economic situation, similar aspirations.

The ownership nonsense at Liverpool at the time was certainly an influence. I suspect it wasnt really a case of "not good enough", but hindsight is 20;20 and going back is always a mistake.

Who would you have instead, and why? As I said, hes worth considering on the short list, but one wonders whether he and Levy would work well together, Levi probably wants someone more flexible, isnt that ultimately why Harry got the chop after all.

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Like Liverpool I'd have taken a chance on Rogers. Guardiola probably. Maybe he'd bring Messi with him. :)

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Good luck with that then:thumbsup:

http://poplicks.com/images/cold-day-in-hell.jpg

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What's Ramos up to these days, or Graham or the one that presented his tube ticket to the press conference etc ?

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New manager is almost an annual event for us Jacks.

Flynn was the manager who masterminded our escape from relegation from the League in 2003.

Jackett took us up to League One 2 years later in 2005.

Martinez, in his first full season had us running away with the League One title in 2008.

Sousa steadied the ship for a season in 2010 and finally

Rodgers took us into the Premiership in 2011.

Now 2012 we have Michael Laudrup, who's have thought that in 2003 eh.

Be interesting to see how Rodgers does at Liverpool, for some reason the paper appear to credit him to way we play, when in fact Martinez was the one who did that.

Martinez joined us in 2003, one of the players brought in by Flynn during the great escape. He was made captain and was adored by the fans. His time came to an end with us during our second year in League One, he was constantly at loggerheads with Jackett about the style to play. Martinez wanted to play a passing game but Jackett favoured the good old 'lump it' to a centre forward.

Stories were around how Martinez was instilling his philosophy to the players during training and which countered Jacketts orders. In the end Jackett got rid of Martinez to Chester who were still in League Two then.

The following season we were in the top half but floundering, dropped to 10th/11th and Jackett was being critisised from all quarters, I think just after the window closed eraly Feb he jumped ship.

Huw immediately went to Martinez, it appears that Huw agreed with Martinez all along. The players had all respected Martinez when he was there and his earlier clandestine training helped him to fast track the passing style, he turned us around and we went into the last game of the season 3 points behind Blackpool who were in the last play-off spot and something like a 7 goal deficit for GD, the last game was Blackpool at home.

It was the most entertaining 3-6 defeat, we just went all out attack, so Blackpool went into the play-offs and won promotion.

The following year, we played the passing style all season, the 'experts' were all saying it wouldn't work in League One, but we run away with the League, 10 points clear of Forest and 16 clear of Leeds who had 15 points deducted that year.

The following year we finished 8th and Martinez left us for Wigan, hated by the Jack fans due to comments he made, such as they will have to drag me out of this club.

Martinez instilled the passing style, the main problems with Martinez was stubbornness (not too bad in a manager) and the fact that he could not organise a defence, we had a lot of exciting Keeganess games.

Sousa was dour, he strengthened our defence at the detriment of the attack, a lot of 0-0's ensued. Everyone was so glad when Leicester came in and poached him at the end of the year. But Sousa did instill the passing at the back and retain the ball more style.

Rodgers came in and made a mix of the both before, a couple of Chelsea signings (Sinclair and Borini helped).

It will be interesting to see how Rodgers gets on at Liverpool and the ego's he will have to overcome. he was sacked within 6 months at his previous gig (reading), simply because the players could not adopt to the style he wanted to play. When he came to Swansea he walked into a team that already played that way and he just needed to tweak it.

Will he get the time and will the players support his ideas as that will be crtitcal. One thing he is, is a very good man manager.