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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Greenhill
(Post 7600496)
Not really sarcasm, but after spending a few years in the region I did see evidence of this entitlement thing, however I meant it more in a relative way to the neighbours, rather than an absolute generalisation.
Sunderland fans often came across as humble and passionate, they also lived up to the criteria of "loyalty to the local team and an appreciation of attractive football and of blood, sweat and (appropriately enough) tears" and struck me as a hopeful bunch. Newcastle fans would often be of the opinion that they had a first class 1st division team, they regarded Sunderland (fans, team) as a bunch of subhumans. Middlesbrough would never be talked about. Apart from when either set of fans would joke about the monkey-hanging (which I think was a misplaced reference to Hartlepool but I always trusted my judgement not to argue about it). |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Greenhill
(Post 7600496)
they regarded Sunderland (fans, team) as a bunch of subhumans.
Middlesbrough would never be talked about. Apart from when either set of fans would joke about the monkey-hanging (which I think was a misplaced reference to Hartlepool but I always trusted my judgement not to argue about it). You could be talking about Swansea and Cardiff here. Sheffield Utd/Wed. Leeds/Huddersfield. Burnley/Blackburn. Rochdale/Bury.... It's called local rivalry. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
And so Burnley make it to the Premier League............rather glad the hoof and hooligan style of Sheff Utd didn't make it again :thumbsup:
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
If it's any help I think you might be able to listen to Championship football on the radio next season. There might a fee for doing so but I' sure it can't be much.
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Brownstar
(Post 7602805)
And so Burnley make it to the Premier League............rather glad the hoof and hooligan style of Sheff Utd didn't make it again :thumbsup:
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Brownstar
(Post 7602805)
.rather glad the hoof and hooligan style
Fancy, skillful players don't worry championship defenses. They will kick them out of the park. The one thing they do fear is speed. The main characteristic of a successful Championship team is commitment. That is the one characteristic that most relegated teams (whose payers think they are too good for this level) lack. I hope Shearer can get some toughness in the spine of the team, and some speed on the wings, than Newcastle will have a chance to get back. I can't see too many of the current squad making the grade. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 7602955)
I hope Shearer can get some toughness in the spine of the team, and some speed on the wings, than Newcastle will have a chance to get back. I can't see too many of the current squad making the grade.
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 7602955)
But hoof and hooligan is pretty much how Championship football is played.
The footie played in the Championship now is reckoned to be way better (technically) than that played in the old second division. Better playing surfaces are one of the reasons. The style of play I was watching involving Bristol Rovers before I came to Canada was far superior to the old third division. I think this is true of most levels. You don't see players carrying beer bellies anymore and there aren't the bogs of pitches that there used to be. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 7602966)
So you think he'll stay on? I'm not so sure.
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 7602988)
I have no idea. I hope he does, and proves himself as a manager.
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 7602978)
:confused:
The footie played in the Championship now is reckoned to be way better (technically) than that played in the old second division. Better playing surfaces are one of the reasons. The style of play I was watching involving Bristol Rovers before I came to Canada was far superior to the old third division. I think this is true of most levels. You don't see players carrying beer bellies anymore and there aren't the bogs of pitches that there used to be. Although I was born and brought up in the North East I watched Crystal Palace for most of the 20 years before I moved to Canada. Plenty of chances to see Premier/First and Championship/Second in that time. In the Premier the quality players have time and space to show off their skills. That doesn't happen at the lower level. Players are shut down much more quickly and with less finesse. The only skill players that thrive are those with the speed to play around the carthorses that pass for defenders in this league. Just look at the three relegated teams this year: Charlton, Southampton and Norwich. All three teams recently in the Premiership but didn't learn to adapt. Like Leeds and Nottingham Forrest, they will learn in the first division. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Does he want to be a manager, does he like the job? I've not read anything (not that I've looked far) about him saying he wants to go further in this new career (or go back to the easy life on MoTD) but these are important considerations..
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 7603001)
I think I agree with that, but he'll insist on complete control and I'm not sure Ashley and Lambias have really learned their lessons. There's a meeting later in the week I hear....
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Greenhill
(Post 7603080)
Does he want to be a manager, does he like the job? I've not read anything (not that I've looked far) about him saying he wants to go further in this new career (or go back to the easy life on MoTD) but these are important considerations..
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 7603072)
It may be better technically than it used to be, but it is very different to Premier league football.
Although I was born and brought up in the North East I watched Crystal Palace for most of the 20 years before I moved to Canada. Plenty of chances to see Premier/First and Championship/Second in that time. In the Premier the quality players have time and space to show off their skills. That doesn't happen at the lower level. Players are shut down much more quickly and with less finesse. The only skill players that thrive are those with the speed to play around the carthorses that pass for defenders in this league. Just look at the three relegated teams this year: Charlton, Southampton and Norwich. All three teams recently in the Premiership but didn't learn to adapt. Like Leeds and Nottingham Forrest, they will learn in the first division. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Perfect grooming for the England job, then :unsure:
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 7603089)
I dunno. I can't imagine it's been much fun for him so far...
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