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expatasia May 5th 2010 3:51 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 8544472)

I don't believe Liverpool's problems this season are solely down to Benitez. Yes, he picked the teams, but he (hopefully picked those who did the best in training and those players did not do the business when it mattered. I'll admit I know very little about managing a football team, but I'd have lost patience with most of them long before now and would have fielded the reserve team for one match, just to show the regulars that they aren't beyond dropping.

He bought 76 players during his reign and was incapable of getting the formula right, going for the 20th defeat of the season on Sunday. More like the players losing patience with him, especially recently with the lack of Juve denials.

Oink May 5th 2010 6:04 pm

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Apparently, Tottenham Hotspurs have finished at least fourth in the Premier League. They have broken the so-called sky four, with Liverpool and Aston Villa not making the grade. I'd like to speak for all of the BritishExpats.com community and congratulate them on a wonderful season. Well done, Tottenham Hotspurs. Your success is our success.

Jingsamichty May 5th 2010 11:50 pm

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 
Huzzah for Sir 'Arry and the Tottinghams!!

Partially discharged May 6th 2010 12:38 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by expatasia (Post 8544504)
He bought 76 players during his reign and was incapable of getting the formula right, going for the 20th defeat of the season on Sunday. More like the players losing patience with him, especially recently with the lack of Juve denials.

Are the only players playing for Liverpool that are pre-Benitez Carragher and Gerrard.?

iaink May 6th 2010 12:50 am

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Hats off to Harry, I dont think too many people would have predicted that at the start of the season, but they have been very good. A personal triumph for Gomes the goaly too after the beating he took at the start of his premiership career, and really satisfying to see so many English players in a successful team too.

triumphguy May 6th 2010 1:37 am

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Well done Spurs! Well played, and with lots of UK players and home grown talent and a "native" boss!!:thumbup:

It was good to see him get the ice bucket treatment! He seemed to take it on good humour.

triumphguy May 6th 2010 1:40 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8544443)
Or rather better. Average home crowd this year was 43,400 at St. James's, the fourth highest in the country.*

*After Manure, Arsenal and Man City. Ahead of Liverpool & Chelsea and the rest of the rabble.

That's quite impressive - must be a big stadium if they all look like him.

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/e...cs/geordie.jpg

iaink May 6th 2010 2:26 am

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Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 8546931)
That's quite impressive - must be a big stadium if they all look like him.

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/e...cs/geordie.jpg

Spoiler mate, use the spoiler, some of us have delicate dispositions in the morning!

Novocastrian May 6th 2010 2:48 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 8546931)
That's quite impressive - must be a big stadium if they all look like him.

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/e...cs/geordie.jpg

That's a very old photograph. I've lost a lot of weight since then.

Edit: In the interests of balance, the average crowd figures I was quoting are for home league games only. Liverpool & Chelsea might come out higher if European games were included. There don't seem to have many of those at St. James' last season.

JamesM May 6th 2010 10:07 am

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Come on you Spurs!!!!

Super chuffed- was wearing my Spurs shirt up the Statue of Liberty today. No one in NYC recognizes the significance of the Mighty Yids!!! Oh well......

triumphguy May 6th 2010 10:19 am

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They didn't think you were supporting a Basketball team?

JamesM May 6th 2010 10:21 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 8548076)
They didn't think you were supporting a Basketball team?

Actually someone did think it was a basketball team. They are such numpties.

triumphguy May 6th 2010 10:23 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8547061)
That's a very old photograph. I've lost a lot of weight since then.

Edit: In the interests of balance, the average crowd figures I was quoting are for home league games only. Liverpool & Chelsea might come out higher if European games were included. There don't seem to have many of those at St. James' last season.

And you were so young!!! What about your old man? - did he lose any?:unsure:

Novocastrian May 9th 2010 4:55 am

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Plucky Wigan lose a squeaker. Ah, well.

JamesM May 9th 2010 5:18 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8553548)
Plucky Wigan lose a squeaker. Ah, well.

There's always next season.

triumphguy May 9th 2010 5:37 am

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Congrats to Chelsea: they deserved the Championship....

this season.:sneaky:

Partially discharged May 9th 2010 6:02 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8553548)
Plucky Wigan lose a squeaker. Ah, well.

Good one...as much as it pains me to say it, congrats to Chelsea..they deserved it although they do have a number of twunts on that team...Drogba, Terry, Lampard. Some people may think that Man U has a similar # of twunts....Neville, Berbaflop and Ferdinand.

david_oz May 9th 2010 9:38 am

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yeah i guess you cant really argue... the team with the most points deserves it

drogba is really selfish though. he was having a massive whinge when he didnt get to take that penalty

jimf May 11th 2010 5:54 am

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Provisional squad announcement

No Gary neville thank goodness.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...uad?CMP=AFCYAH

triumphguy May 11th 2010 6:04 am

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I don't know about that - Neville's played some good games recently, and rendered Robinho invisible during the Champions League matches. He's been far more valuable to United recently than Carrick - who seems a bit of a liability.

DaveLovesDee May 11th 2010 6:29 am

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 8558529)
Provisional squad announcement

No Gary neville thank goodness.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...uad?CMP=AFCYAH

Walcott's hardly played for us this season beause of injuries, and now he's off to the World Cup where he'll probably get injured again!

Capello's got Carragher out of retirement even though carra rarely ever got a game for England before now despite being one of the best English defenders, who could play in any one of the back four positions. There's no guarantee that Barry will be fit again in time either, and James is such a great goalkeeper that his team got relegated this season (not completely his fault though).

If I were England's World Cup opposition, I only see five players in that squad who'd I consider worth worrying about, and most of those are defenders.

david_oz May 11th 2010 8:10 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 8558614)
Walcott's hardly played for us this season beause of injuries, and now he's off to the World Cup where he'll probably get injured again!

If I were England's World Cup opposition, I only see five players in that squad who'd I consider worth worrying about, and most of those are defenders.

i just don't think walcott is that good... he's got pace, and can beat a guy, but a lot of the time there is no end product. he's still got some time to go, but i probably wouldn't be taking him to the world cup

i'd agree with your second statement. but that doesn't mean england don't have a chance. england look to have a reasonably solid defence. which means any kind of creative spark from the likes of gerrard, lampard or rooney could win you any game.

having said that, id put england as the best team in the "2nd favourite" group, if that makes any sense. ie. the group of teams behind the ones who can consider themselves serious contenders

expatasia May 11th 2010 10:09 am

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Goalkeepers Joe Hart, David James, Robert Green

Defenders Leighton Baines, Jamie Carragher, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand, Glen Johnson, Ledley King, John Terry, Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock

Midfielders Gareth Barry, Michael Carrick, Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard, Tom Huddlestone, Adam Johnson, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Scott Parker, Theo Walcott, Shaun Wright-Phillips

Forwards Darren Bent, Peter Crouch, Jermain Defoe, Emile Heskey, Wayne Rooney


Which seven would you kick out?

SWP, Upson, Warnock, Barry, Heskey, Huddlestone & Walcott for me.

Novocastrian May 11th 2010 10:15 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by expatasia (Post 8559243)
Goalkeepers Joe Hart, David James, Robert Green

Defenders Leighton Baines, Jamie Carragher, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand, Glen Johnson, Ledley King, John Terry, Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock

Midfielders Gareth Barry, Michael Carrick, Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard, Tom Huddlestone, Adam Johnson, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Scott Parker, Theo Walcott, Shaun Wright-Phillips

Forwards Darren Bent, Peter Crouch, Jermain Defoe, Emile Heskey, Wayne Rooney


Which seven would you kick out?

SWP, Upson, Warnock, Barry, Heskey, Huddlestone & Walcott for me.

All three goalkeepers and a random other four.

JamesM May 11th 2010 10:30 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by expatasia (Post 8559243)
Goalkeepers Joe Hart, David James, Robert Green

Defenders Leighton Baines, Jamie Carragher, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand, Glen Johnson, Ledley King, John Terry, Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock

Midfielders Gareth Barry, Michael Carrick, Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard, Tom Huddlestone, Adam Johnson, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Scott Parker, Theo Walcott, Shaun Wright-Phillips

Forwards Darren Bent, Peter Crouch, Jermain Defoe, Emile Heskey, Wayne Rooney


Which seven would you kick out?

SWP, Upson, Warnock, Barry, Heskey, Huddlestone & Walcott for me.

I like your selection but I would take Walcott over Bent. And I would keep Heskey and lose Johnson (just not seen him play enough).

The reason being is that Walcott can play as a winger and striker so provide more cover. I don't think Bent will get near a game at all with Defoe and Rooney both doing what he does better and Crouch and Heskey being used as target men.

JamesM May 11th 2010 10:33 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by david_oz (Post 8558979)
i just don't think walcott is that good... he's got pace, and can beat a guy, but a lot of the time there is no end product. he's still got some time to go, but i probably wouldn't be taking him to the world cup

i'd agree with your second statement. but that doesn't mean england don't have a chance. england look to have a reasonably solid defence. which means any kind of creative spark from the likes of gerrard, lampard or rooney could win you any game.

having said that, id put england as the best team in the "2nd favourite" group, if that makes any sense. ie. the group of teams behind the ones who can consider themselves serious contenders

Quarter finalists but not quite semi-finalists???

david_oz May 11th 2010 10:58 am

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 8559285)
Quarter finalists but not quite semi-finalists???

quarter finalists for sure (unless you meet us in the 2nd round :) )

after that, who knows. you only need to win 1 game from there to be in the semis, so its definitely possible


as for the seven, i'd lose warnock, upson, king, walcott, SWP, johnson and milner.

DaveLovesDee May 11th 2010 4:42 pm

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The final 23 doesn't have to include everyone from the 30.


Originally Posted by david_oz (Post 8558979)
i just don't think walcott is that good... he's got pace, and can beat a guy, but a lot of the time there is no end product. he's still got some time to go, but i probably wouldn't be taking him to the world cup

i'd agree with your second statement. but that doesn't mean england don't have a chance. england look to have a reasonably solid defence. which means any kind of creative spark from the likes of gerrard, lampard or rooney could win you any game.

having said that, id put england as the best team in the "2nd favourite" group, if that makes any sense. ie. the group of teams behind the ones who can consider themselves serious contenders


Originally Posted by expatasia (Post 8559243)

Which seven would you kick out?

SWP, Upson, Warnock, Barry, Heskey, Huddlestone & Walcott for me.


Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 8559277)
I like your selection but I would take Walcott over Bent. And I would keep Heskey and lose Johnson (just not seen him play enough).

The reason being is that Walcott can play as a winger and striker so provide more cover. I don't think Bent will get near a game at all with Defoe and Rooney both doing what he does better and Crouch and Heskey being used as target men.

Walcott is good enough, he's just not consistant enough for my liking. In my opinion Walcott would be useful as a squad player as he can play winger or striker, and can use his speed when brought on as a sub against tired defenders.

The 30-man squad seems to have the usual problem of too many right-sided midfielders, and not enough left-sided ones. Ashley Young would have made a difference.

expatasia May 11th 2010 7:33 pm

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Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 8559741)
The final 23 doesn't have to include everyone from the 30.







Are you hinting there is a way in thru the back door for our top player Owen H?

iaink May 12th 2010 1:14 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by expatasia (Post 8559243)

Which seven would you kick out?

Impossible to say at this point without knowing the fitness status of several creaky old defenders isnt it?;)

Partially discharged May 12th 2010 2:39 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by expatasia (Post 8559961)
Are you hinting there is a way in thru the back door for our top player Owen H?

Just seen on t'internet that one of the bigger twunts on the team has got a suspected broken metatarsal.......could be good news for Carragher/King.

If Owen H...had played in the last month or so, he would have likely have been in the 30 or 23.

Oink May 12th 2010 3:09 am

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I would have added Jenas and Danny Rose.

expatasia May 12th 2010 3:48 am

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Jags might get back in now (if Terry is indeed crocked) or even Bridge? ;)

expatasia May 12th 2010 3:52 am

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Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 8560682)
Just seen on t'internet that one of the bigger twunts on the team has got a suspected broken metatarsal......


VIZ TOP TIP

FABIO CAPELLO - After the JT metatarsal news it might be an idea to rethink leaving all the WAGS at home


boom boom

Partially discharged May 12th 2010 4:48 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by expatasia (Post 8560801)
VIZ TOP TIP

FABIO CAPELLO - After the JT metatarsal news it might be an idea to rethink leaving all the WAGS at home


boom boom

You can all rest now...Terry's foot injury is not that bad and he'll be ready to play in the FA Cup.....

Oakvillian May 17th 2010 7:33 am

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:cry_smile: I suppose it was too much to hope that Pompey could leap headlong out of the top flight with a final giant-killing flourish in the Cup. Congrats to Chelsea - they thoroughly outplayed a team that was at the end of its physical and emotional tether.

Oh well - here's hoping they follow the Toon's example and bounce back up after next season in the Championship. Avram Grant's suddenly being very noncommital about whether he'll stay in charge - can't say I blame him, he has no real idea who he'll be working for or whether he'll have enough cash to pay what's left of his players.

Novocastrian May 17th 2010 9:10 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 8560933)
You can all rest now...Terry's foot injury is not that bad and he'll be ready to play in the FA Cup.....

But Michael Ballack's won't.

What a pity.

Novocastrian May 17th 2010 9:11 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 8571378)
:cry_smile: I suppose it was too much to hope that Pompey could leap headlong out of the top flight with a final giant-killing flourish in the Cup. Congrats to Chelsea - they thoroughly outplayed a team that was at the end of its physical and emotional tether.

Oh well - here's hoping they follow the Toon's example and bounce back up after next season in the Championship. Avram Grant's suddenly being very noncommital about whether he'll stay in charge - can't say I blame him, he has no real idea who he'll be working for or whether he'll have enough cash to pay what's left of his players.

Best of luck with that. :sneaky:

jimf May 18th 2010 12:40 pm

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England to beat Spain in the final..........

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/180520...gland-win.html

Novocastrian May 18th 2010 1:47 pm

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 8574832)
England to beat Spain in the final..........

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/180520...gland-win.html

Oh Christ, are the buffoons at J.P.Morgan never going to learn that the Gaussian copula function is a load of shit when applied to risk analysis?

I fancy Cote d'Ivoire.


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