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Tangram Apr 1st 2014 6:44 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 11200087)
Totally lacks plausibility. A large money making corporation giving up opportunity to fleece 75000 people of upwards of 40 quid each? I dont think so.

Now, me telling the kids I was wearing my wifes underwear after they hid all mine this morning, that at least had some plausibility;)

And you have form for it.

iaink Apr 2nd 2014 1:03 am

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Originally Posted by Tangram (Post 11200170)
And you have form for it.

Yeah, but they dont know that:unsure:

jimf Apr 3rd 2014 11:05 am

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Hero player returns to club as manager - almost always ends in tears..........

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...om-July-1.html

andyrich666 Apr 6th 2014 5:01 am

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9 wins and 13 pens, wow, should have been a few teams we played demoted to 10 too !!!!!!!!!

Bein Sports > Keys and Gray say it was a pen,

SS1 Gary Neville says no

Tangram Apr 6th 2014 7:42 am

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11207044)
9 wins and 13 pens, wow, should have been a few teams we played demoted to 10 too !!!!!!!!!

Bein Sports > Keys and Gray say it was a pen,

SS1 Gary Neville says no

I presume you are referring to the West Ham game ? I didn't think it was, but then I thought the Liverpool keeper was fouled by Carroll with one of his branches.

burks Apr 6th 2014 7:50 am

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Arsenal and United in Europa next season with Everton in CL? I wonder what the odds would have been of that before the season start..

Oink Apr 6th 2014 7:56 am

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Originally Posted by burks (Post 11207228)
Arsenal and United in Europa next season with Everton in CL? I wonder what the odds would have been of that before the season start..

Happy ones. :)

caretaker Apr 6th 2014 8:51 am

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I watched the Emirates @ Changs go down 2-0 early and quit watching 30 min in. 3 nil final and it reminded me of the Riders in the bad times. Maybe if that Mobuku or whatever his name is had got kicked in the head instead of Osmon at about the 10 minute mark it would of made a difference. Good game if you're an Everton fan I suppose. "Meteoroligsts have confirmed the dust cloud sweeping Europe is not from the Sahara; someone has opened the Arsenal trophy cabinet."

JamesM Apr 6th 2014 9:39 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11207237)
Happy ones. :)

I'd be delighted to see Arsenal miss the Champions League.

I think they'll still nick that spot though sadly.

I'm delighted that Spurs are completely out of Europe. It is wrong that that 6th spot is a more appetising finish than 5th.

Novocastrian Apr 6th 2014 9:55 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11207362)
I'd be delighted to see Arsenal miss the Champions League.

I think they'll still nick that spot though sadly.

I'm delighted that Spurs are completely out of Europe. It is wrong that that 6th spot is a more appetising finish than 5th.

Just make sure your lot stick it to S*******d tomorrow before you give up on the season.

andyrich666 Apr 6th 2014 10:28 am

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11207307)
I watched the Emirates @ Changs go down 2-0 early and quit watching 30 min in. 3 nil final and it reminded me of the Riders in the bad times. Maybe if that Mobuku or whatever his name is had got kicked in the head instead of Osmon at about the 10 minute mark it would of made a difference. Good game if you're an Everton fan I suppose. "Meteoroligsts have confirmed the dust cloud sweeping Europe is not from the Sahara; someone has opened the Arsenal trophy cabinet."

Do not really get the first part of your post but I understand it, however you have come back with a classic at the end, it tickled me, or the dust from the empty cabinet did, ;)

BristolUK Apr 6th 2014 10:56 am

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11207362)
I'd be delighted to see Arsenal miss the Champions League.

It would indeed be amusing to see that happen. On the other hand, as someone who likes to see the English teams doing well in the Champions League (previously who I wanted to win things was based on who was best equipped for the old European Cups) I can't help but feel Arsenal is virtually a guarantee of reaching the first knock-out stage while Everton would have to survive a tough play off against someone like Celtic or Napoli before being unseeded in the groups and drawing Real Madrid, Porto and Juventus.

Not good for the coefficients.

andyrich666 Apr 6th 2014 11:30 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11207437)
It would indeed be amusing to see that happen. On the other hand, as someone who likes to see the English teams doing well in the Champions League (previously who I wanted to win things was based on who was best equipped for the old European Cups) I can't help but feel Arsenal is virtually a guarantee of reaching the first knock-out stage while Everton would have to survive a tough play off against someone like Celtic or Napoli before being unseeded in the groups and drawing Real Madrid, Porto and Juventus.

Not good for the coefficients.

I think they should give it up to a team who may well try and play for the cup, if you look over the last ten years or so at the teams that have pushed into or further than the quarters, it shows for me Arsenal do not deserve the chance to be there, Olympiakos Juventus and Malaga to name just two, if pushed on it I could come back with more teams

JamesM Apr 6th 2014 11:35 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11207437)
It would indeed be amusing to see that happen. On the other hand, as someone who likes to see the English teams doing well in the Champions League (previously who I wanted to win things was based on who was best equipped for the old European Cups) I can't help but feel Arsenal is virtually a guarantee of reaching the first knock-out stage while Everton would have to survive a tough play off against someone like Celtic or Napoli before being unseeded in the groups and drawing Real Madrid, Porto and Juventus.

Not good for the coefficients.

I don't care for other British teams in Europe sadly.

As an example I'd have been far happier if Bayern had won the CL ahead of Chelsea and Spurs had qualified for the CL several years ago.

Co-efficients etc have ruined the game. Europe was better when we didn't have boring seeded groups designed to keep certain teams in it. It should be knock out with an unseeded draw.

The cash would certainly mean more to Everton than Arsenal if they were to make the group stage. And it may actually be a good thing for Arsenal as it may change the board's approach to running the club- then it again it could be the beginning of a demise.

I still think Arsenal will win their 4 remaining games and I'm fairly certain Everton have to play City so I think Arsenal with finish 4th.

andyrich666 Apr 6th 2014 11:46 am

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11207483)
I don't care for other British teams in Europe sadly.

As an example I'd have been far happier if Bayern had won the CL ahead of Chelsea and Spurs had qualified for the CL several years ago.

Co-efficients etc have ruined the game. Europe was better when we didn't have boring seeded groups designed to keep certain teams in it. It should be knock out with an unseeded draw.

The cash would certainly mean more to Everton than Arsenal if they were to make the group stage. And it may actually be a good thing for Arsenal as it may change the board's approach to running the club- then it again it could be the beginning of a demise.

I still think Arsenal will win their 4 remaining games and I'm fairly certain Everton have to play City so I think Arsenal with finish 4th.

Everton have a game in hand, City is not a given + I am sure it is at Everton, I kind of would not expect Arsenal to not win the last 5 but the confidence is not there, they have the easier run

JamesM Apr 6th 2014 11:50 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 11207497)
Everton have a game in hand, City is not a given + I am sure it is at Everton, I kind of would not expect Arsenal to not win the last 5 but the confidence is not there, they have the easier run

Yeah.

It's the most exciting run in for some years. I can say that as a neutral.

League too close to call and 4th spot still open.

Oink Apr 6th 2014 2:53 pm

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11207362)
I'd be delighted to see Arsenal miss the Champions League.

I think they'll still nick that spot though sadly.

I'm delighted that Spurs are completely out of Europe. It is wrong that that 6th spot is a more appetising finish than 5th.

I haven't given up winning the league. :thumbup:

burks Apr 7th 2014 8:15 am

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http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26928782

Jay Rodriguez is out of the World Cup

Novocastrian Apr 7th 2014 9:07 am

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A highly satisfactory result at WHL there.

JamesM Apr 7th 2014 9:37 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11208909)
A highly satisfactory result at WHL there.

It's an irrelevant result for us in some respects. Especially as it now seems we will have a new manager.

Although I'm quietly hoping we may catch Arsenal.

Our last 6 games were always winnable it's just a shame we lost to Norwich and Arsenal at home in recent weeks.

None the less 5 points behind Arsenal with 5 games. Something to hold my interest.

Oink Apr 7th 2014 11:11 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11208909)
A highly satisfactory result at WHL there.

You're welcome.

Greenhill Apr 9th 2014 12:18 am

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God may intervene to keep Sunderland up


Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11208909)
A highly satisfactory result at WHL there.


Tangram Apr 15th 2014 12:45 am

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96, never forgotten. Great respect shown by all the clubs over the weekend.

25 years ago today.

JamesM Apr 17th 2014 7:46 am

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Great goal by Bale yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWVrolNQ4RU

It's like seeing the woman you love with another man, only he's richer and better looking than you are. But you know she's happy and that's all that matters.

Novocastrian Apr 17th 2014 8:30 am

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11223820)
Great goal by Bale yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWVrolNQ4RU

It's like seeing the woman you love with another man, only he's richer and better looking than you are. But you know she's happy and that's all that matters.

Oh, James, now you've made us all weepy.

Tangram Apr 17th 2014 10:14 am

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11223820)
Great goal by Bale yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWVrolNQ4RU

It's like seeing the woman you love with another man, only he's richer and better looking than you are. But you know she's happy and that's all that matters.

He's still Welsh. 'Nuff said.

geedee Apr 19th 2014 1:52 am

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Originally Posted by burks (Post 11208815)
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26928782

Jay Rodriguez is out of the World Cup

Don't worry.... Ricky will be there!

JGK Apr 19th 2014 6:49 am

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Originally Posted by Greenhill (Post 11211365)

:goodpost: Looks like he's started :rofl::rofl::rofl:


4 points from title challengers in a week

Oink Apr 19th 2014 7:09 am

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Originally Posted by JGK (Post 11225914)
:goodpost: Looks like he's started :rofl::rofl::rofl:


4 points from title challengers in a week

Should of been six but even so you're still going down.

JamesM Apr 19th 2014 8:30 am

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Liverpool have won the league.

Be interested to see if Hodgson uses Gerrard, Henderson, Sterling and Sturridge for the nucleus of his World Cup team. I would.

Mind you I'd probably find space for Harry Kane too :-)

Former Lancastrian Apr 19th 2014 11:16 am

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Now I know there are quite a few ABUs but I came across this 35 minute programme about Punk Football and in particular on FC United of Manchester.
I encourage you to view it as I found it interesting from a common fan view
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrR5e9NtV68

Tangram Apr 19th 2014 11:26 pm

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11225996)
Liverpool have won the league.

Be interested to see if Hodgson uses Gerrard, Henderson, Sterling and Sturridge for the nucleus of his World Cup team. I would.

Mind you I'd probably find space for Harry Kane too :-)

I wouldn't say so but we are looking more like favourites after this weekend.

burks Apr 20th 2014 3:19 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 11226147)
Now I know there are quite a few ABUs but I came across this 35 minute programme about Punk Football and in particular on FC United of Manchester.
I encourage you to view it as I found it interesting from a common fan view
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrR5e9NtV68

12:44
"..I think they want all the pubs shut down, I think they want everyone sat at home watching a thousand channels of shite and voting for it on your mobile phone, taking money out of you while your sat in your favourite armchair.."
Something needs to be done about the amount of £££ in football, but it will never happen. A salary cap would be a good idea. Stopping foreign (non-EU) ownership would be another good one too.

jimf Apr 21st 2014 4:15 am

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Looks like he might be out quite soon........

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ly-owners.html

JamesM Apr 21st 2014 4:29 am

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Originally Posted by burks (Post 11226744)
12:44
"..I think they want all the pubs shut down, I think they want everyone sat at home watching a thousand channels of shite and voting for it on your mobile phone, taking money out of you while your sat in your favourite armchair.."
Something needs to be done about the amount of £££ in football, but it will never happen. A salary cap would be a good idea. Stopping foreign (non-EU) ownership would be another good one too.

I don't think anyone can argue with the sentiment. Professional sports teams were founded and built by their communities. Once the TV money and corporate sponsorship arrives these communities become quickly forgotten to build a brand and line the pockets of the people at the top....In the end greed always wins...it is the notion of greed that is the founding principle of capitalism after all.

Former Lancastrian Apr 21st 2014 4:56 am

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11227925)
I don't think anyone can argue with the sentiment. Professional sports teams were founded and built by their communities. Once the TV money and corporate sponsorship arrives these communities become quickly forgotten to build a brand and line the pockets of the people at the top....In the end greed always wins...it is the notion of greed that is the founding principle of capitalism after all.

Cant really argue with that. Football is no longer a sport its a business model. Gone are the days where the average working class man could afford to take his kid(s) to a football game be it at Old Trafford or any of the other 91 grounds when there were 4 divisions.
Man Utd or Darlington it didn't matter you could afford to go and also attend several away trips.
I started going in the late 60s as a kid with my dad or on my own. I stopped going in the mid to late 80s as I moved to Canada. Sure compared to now some of the smaller grounds would now be considered shitholes but in those days it didn't matter. At half time you could still afford to buy a Bovril and a pie.
Corporate boxes didn't exist and sponsorship was minimal if non existent. Teams had 2 x shirts and didn't find a need to change them every year and decide to go with Nike or Adidas.
No agents demanding multi thousand pound salaries a week and players would take a bus to the ground not showing up in Bentleys and Ferraris.
Turn up on the day and pay your way in unless you were rich and could afford season tickets.
Given a choice today Old Trafford or Gigg Lane (FC Uniteds shared ground) Im thinking Gigg Lane would win out.
Watching Rooney yesterday on 200 grand a WEEK was a disgrace to all fans of any team.

iaink Apr 21st 2014 5:06 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 11227959)
Watching Rooney yesterday on 200 grand a WEEK was a disgrace to all fans of any team.

300k;) ($CDN 550k)

Wasnt his toe crocked a week or two ago? He played with painkilling injections against Bayern. Its not really a surprise he wasnt up for it with nothing to play for this year.


Much as I agree with the sentiments about money in the game, that is not the players fault. And the game on view now is a million miles from what it was in the 60s and 70s.

I suspect that many chairmen through the league make a net loss from their involvement too. Financially secure well run clubs are few and far between, and when the ratings drop and TV gets bored of footy and the money dries up there is going to be an awful reckoning.

burks Apr 21st 2014 7:05 am

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 11227910)
Looks like he might be out quite soon........

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ly-owners.html

I was for giving him time and letting him make his mark on the club etc. But as the season developed it was clear that he is completely lost. Yes, the squad may not be as strong as City/Liverpool.. but he is obviously not able to get the players to play for him, and he is unable to set them up to really go for games. He seems lost tactically. The two transfers windows were ridiculous. Unfortunately (in the sense that it didn't turn out to be the long term replacements for SAF) it hasn't worked.


Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 11227959)
Cant really argue with that. Football is no longer a sport its a business model. Gone are the days where the average working class man could afford to take his kid(s) to a football game be it at Old Trafford or any of the other 91 grounds when there were 4 divisions.
Man Utd or Darlington it didn't matter you could afford to go and also attend several away trips.
I started going in the late 60s as a kid with my dad or on my own. I stopped going in the mid to late 80s as I moved to Canada. Sure compared to now some of the smaller grounds would now be considered shitholes but in those days it didn't matter. At half time you could still afford to buy a Bovril and a pie.
Corporate boxes didn't exist and sponsorship was minimal if non existent. Teams had 2 x shirts and didn't find a need to change them every year and decide to go with Nike or Adidas.
No agents demanding multi thousand pound salaries a week and players would take a bus to the ground not showing up in Bentleys and Ferraris.
Turn up on the day and pay your way in unless you were rich and could afford season tickets.
Given a choice today Old Trafford or Gigg Lane (FC Uniteds shared ground) Im thinking Gigg Lane would win out.
Watching Rooney yesterday on 200 grand a WEEK was a disgrace to all fans of any team.

It is something that FIFA has to address though, rather than just the PL, and everyone knows that will never happen. Most incompetent organisation ever. I think a salary cap is needed to stop wages escalating at the rate they are now. Bring it down from the stupid 6 figure a week numbers.

One day it will all implode..

magnumpi Apr 21st 2014 11:49 pm

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Moyes Sacked

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...e-failure.html

JamesM Apr 27th 2014 6:54 am

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Looks like it will go right down to the wire.

Mourinho has blown it wide open.


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