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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 11118924)
The day Chelsea did that to Spurs was the worst day in my life.
Although I did like it, I do have some sympathy for your lot. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 11118098)
I did say it would be ridiculous, but the irony of liverpool making the top 4 and ManU still pissing on our biscuits is almost too much for the gods to resist I fear.
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
(Post 11119022)
I'd have felt the same way if were us it had happened to.
Although I did like it, I do have some sympathy for your lot. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 11119222)
Seems like its your lot who need the sympathy today.
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
The hazards of speaking too soon.
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 11119222)
Seems like its your lot who need the sympathy today.
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
I certainly didn't expect that, thought at best we may get a draw.
Just a perfect storm on the day of Arse being poor and everything coming off for us. Still think they (Arse) will get a minimum of 2nd. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Greenhill
(Post 11119307)
The hazards of speaking too soon.
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
There's been much rubbish written about ManU over the years, refs in Ferguson's pocket, lucky cup draws etc
But over the last few years it really does seem they had the odd bit of good fortune. For this reason I thought it would be quite typical that they'd do something like win the CL and displace someone from the CL or that they'd be the first team to benefit from the new win the Europa League and qualify for the CL rule. But it's just not on is it. Pre-Moyes, today's equivalent would have seen them go on to win 3 or 4-1 having come from behind. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 11120730)
There's been much rubbish written about ManU over the years, refs in Ferguson's pocket, lucky cup draws etc
But over the last few years it really does seem they had the odd bit of good fortune. For this reason I thought it would be quite typical that they'd do something like win the CL and displace someone from the CL or that they'd be the first team to benefit from the new win the Europa League and qualify for the CL rule. But it's just not on is it. Pre-Moyes, today's equivalent would have seen them go on to win 3 or 4-1 having come from behind. Fellaini and Mata are good signings but more are needed. The problem is players are getting harder and harder to sign and the fees to get the players you want are astranomical. Are the Glazers really prepared to sanction the 3 or 4 additional big buys that Manchester United need if they are to be a competitive force with the likes of City, Madrid and Bayern again? |
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 11120754)
Ferguson left Moyes with a back four that was shot and a midfield in desperate need of repair.
Three or four teams have all just had their first wins against ManU for 20, 30, 40 years. This is not just last season's championship winning players reporting back for the new season missing much of their ability and confidence or growing old after the three month break. There wasn't even a summer tournament on which to blame fatigue. I have no doubt that if Fergie was younger and was continuing he wouldn't have failed to improve the squad over the last few years. But it was still a Premier league winning side 3 months before Moyes took over. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Please edit your post Oink
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
That's better. bindiippers makes much more sense.
But, let's talk Toon if we may. Ashley has managed to flog off one decent striker to Chelshite for 7 or 8 million, and Chelsea have sat him on the long end of the bench ever since then, next another decent striker, Cissé, was forced to play with the logo of a usurer on his chest and has turned from being a prolific striker into a forgotten man. I'll not bring up the cashing in of Carroll for 35 very big ones, but more recently Cabaye has also been cashed in with no replacement in sight. Add to that the suspension of Remy and the absence of Debauchy, Collocino and Tiote through injury, there's really no hope. In Ashley's view of course, everything's going swimmingly. The Toon are hanging around mid table and most likely will avoid the drop (they've got to win at least one or two more games, you'd think). So all's well. Then we have the bizarre episode with Ashley's appointment of JFK as Director of *****all and his recent "retirement". Need I say more? Now, I know that football is just a business these days, but I'm getting rather sick of the whole nonsense to be frank. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 11127551)
That's better. bindiippers makes much more sense.
But, let's talk Toon if we may. Ashley has managed to flog off one decent striker to Chelshite for 7 or 8 million, and Chelsea have sat him on the long end of the bench ever since then, next another decent striker, Cissé, was forced to play with the logo of a usurer on his chest and has turned from being a prolific striker into a forgotten man. I'll not bring up the cashing in of Carroll for 35 very big ones, but more recently Cabaye has also been cashed in with no replacement in sight. Add to that the suspension of Remy and the absence of Debauchy, Collocino and Tiote through injury, there's really no hope. In Ashley's view of course, everything's going swimmingly. The Toon are hanging around mid table and most likely will avoid the drop (they've got to win at least one or two more games, you'd think). So all's well. Then we have the bizarre episode with Ashley's appointment of JFK as Director of *****all and his recent "retirement". Need I say more? Now, I know that football is just a business these days, but I'm getting rather sick of the whole nonsense to be frank. http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...-Slags-001.jpg |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
I did ask nicely Bazzz
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A pleasing set of results.
Tottenham for 4th???? |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 11128258)
A pleasing set of results.
Tottenham for 4th???? |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Have you ever been to Tottenham?
Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 11127524)
The bindiippers are scum, they're nasty thieves and everybody hates them. That's just a fact. :thumbdown:
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Greenhill
(Post 11128321)
Have you ever been to Tottenham?
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
(Post 11128340)
Yes, a number of times. It looks better in the rear-view mirror and a win on the results page.
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 11127551)
That's better. bindiippers makes much more sense.
But, let's talk Toon if we may. Ashley has managed to flog off one decent striker to Chelshite for 7 or 8 million, and Chelsea have sat him on the long end of the bench ever since then, next another decent striker, Cissé, was forced to play with the logo of a usurer on his chest and has turned from being a prolific striker into a forgotten man. I'll not bring up the cashing in of Carroll for 35 very big ones, but more recently Cabaye has also been cashed in with no replacement in sight. Add to that the suspension of Remy and the absence of Debauchy, Collocino and Tiote through injury, there's really no hope. In Ashley's view of course, everything's going swimmingly. The Toon are hanging around mid table and most likely will avoid the drop (they've got to win at least one or two more games, you'd think). So all's well. Then we have the bizarre episode with Ashley's appointment of JFK as Director of *****all and his recent "retirement". Need I say more? Now, I know that football is just a business these days, but I'm getting rather sick of the whole nonsense to be frank. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 11128474)
Speaking of rear views Arsenal must be checking that mirror all the time now :-) . Do you think they'll hang on for 4th?
When was the last season that didn't happen? |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
(Post 11128587)
I think we'll finish in the top 3, with yet another season of finishing above you lots again! :p
When was the last season that didn't happen? |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 11128633)
When did you last win anything?
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
(Post 11128743)
I won a tenner on the lottery a while back! :p
When are you going to Malta Dave ? |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
(Post 11128587)
I think we'll finish in the top 3, with yet another season of finishing above you lots again! :p
When was the last season that didn't happen? None the less with twice the wage bill and revenue should your ambition not be a little higher than to try and scrape a finish one or two points above Tottenham? I was thinking Arsenal for 3rd but on recent performances I'm wondering if there will be an implosion during the final third of the season. The gap with Spurs was 11 points a week ago and now just 5 with a looming visit to White Hart Lane. Chadli is starting to look a better player than Ozil. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 11128788)
Mid 90's.
None the less with twice the wage bill and revenue should your ambition not be a little higher than to try and scrape a finish one or two points above Tottenham? I was thinking Arsenal for 3rd but on recent performances I'm wondering if there will be an implosion during the final third of the season. The gap with Spurs was 11 points a week ago and now just 5 with a looming visit to White Hart Lane. Chadli is starting to look a better player than Ozil. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Tangram
(Post 11128262)
Very possible.
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey
(Post 11129702)
not a chance..remind me how Spurs have fared against the teams currently in the top 4 again?
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 11129840)
Why don't you just Google it instead of being so lazy?
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Latest Chosen One blast : Mourinho said: 'If he is right and I am afraid of failure it is because I didn't fail many times. Eight years without silverware, that's failure.'
Under Wenger, Arsenal have not won a trophy since the 2005 FA Cup. 'He's a specialist in failure,' continued Mourinho. 'If I do that in Chelsea, eight years, I leave and don't come back.' Bit out of order, but he does come up with some doozies. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Tangram
(Post 11129886)
Latest Chosen One blast : Mourinho said: 'If he is right and I am afraid of failure it is because I didn't fail many times. Eight years without silverware, that's failure.'
Under Wenger, Arsenal have not won a trophy since the 2005 FA Cup. 'He's a specialist in failure,' continued Mourinho. 'If I do that in Chelsea, eight years, I leave and don't come back.' Bit out of order, but he does come up with some doozies. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey
(Post 11129854)
don't need to..let me think weren't they tanked 6-0 & 5-1 by Man City and 5-0 by Liverpool?:thumbup:
That's 3 games what about the other 35 in a season??? The record against the Top 4 is an interesting concept but it only accounts for a small percentage of fixtures. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 11129902)
I do enjoy Mourinho. Brings something to the press conferences. I think only Ian Holloway is as entertaining.
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Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 11129906)
Good to see you applying yourself.
That's 3 games what about the other 35 in a season??? The record against the Top 4 is an interesting concept but it only accounts for a small percentage of fixtures. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey
(Post 11130109)
How about losing 3-0 at home to the happy hammers there is another one of the top of my head.
But despite these results Spurs still only 3 points of 4th spot. The next 6 games are toughies but the final 6 all look winnable. If Spurs pick up 10 points from the next 6 games and 15 from the final 6 they'll hit 72 points. I'm a little biased but if Adebayor stays fit I think that is what Tottenham will pick up. It affords Tottenham 3 more defeats between now and the end of the season. Maybe that won't be enough but in previous seasons it has often been good enough for 4th. |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
Originally Posted by Tangram
(Post 11128777)
Show off.
When are you going to Malta Dave ?
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 11128788)
Mid 90's.
None the less with twice the wage bill and revenue should your ambition not be a little higher than to try and scrape a finish one or two points above Tottenham? I was thinking Arsenal for 3rd but on recent performances I'm wondering if there will be an implosion during the final third of the season. The gap with Spurs was 11 points a week ago and now just 5 with a looming visit to White Hart Lane. Chadli is starting to look a better player than Ozil.
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 11130601)
Yeah that one was bruising. Alladici did it again!
But despite these results Spurs still only 3 points of 4th spot. The next 6 games are toughies but the final 6 all look winnable. If Spurs pick up 10 points from the next 6 games and 15 from the final 6 they'll hit 72 points. I'm a little biased but if Adebayor stays fit I think that is what Tottenham will pick up. It affords Tottenham 3 more defeats between now and the end of the season. Maybe that won't be enough but in previous seasons it has often been good enough for 4th. |
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I know it's often said there are no easy matches in international football but have a look at this draw..........
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...an-Marino.html |
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
A stoppage time winner against Villa took us to 40 points and virtual certainty of staying up. Can't say I'm impressed though. :(
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