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caretaker Dec 22nd 2015 11:05 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11819650)
You're doing it again.

Are you insinuating that charity should be unconditional or that Christian Charity shouldn't be restricted to Christians?

Novocastrian Dec 22nd 2015 11:38 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11819880)
I don't spot it. In fact, taking Paw's paragraph as whole, he seems to be recognising differing categories ??

Perhaps he seems to, but he's not. He repeats his reference to an anti-austerity position, then acknowledges that this has nothing to do with the other things but then immediately conflates them all again.

Novocastrian Dec 22nd 2015 11:39 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11819921)
Are you insinuating that charity should be unconditional or that Christian Charity shouldn't be restricted to Christians?

Eh?

bats Dec 22nd 2015 12:58 pm

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by paw339 (Post 11819634)
Novocastrian There was no intentional category error that was simply a list of anti establishment populist people organisations.

I would agree with you that just because you are anti-austerity doesn't mean you are automatically pro or anti anything. That's a general problem we face with regard to emotional issues around immigration/refugees/security. Often people have very complicated views on these areas. They might be anti immigration, pro refuge and anti austerity. As a general point the media also often fails to point out how subtle peoples views are for example someone might be pro immigrant (helping out etc) yet be anti large scale immigration, or they might be in favour of building fences to control the refugee flows but be in favour of generous refugee resettlement programs.

Mostly they're just anti non white Christian immigrants and use every excuse under the sun to avoid admitting this either public ally or to themselves.

JamesM Dec 22nd 2015 9:20 pm

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 
People have emotional issues around everything. It would be impossible to list them on a forum.

To simply categorise austerity/immigration/refugees as things where people can get emotional about and go either way does nothing to tackle anything about human nature or helping refugees who've had their homes bombed flat.

Why not just say "people are different and have different beliefs' and save the numerous other words being used to validate the belief that one is above refugees.

There is something hypocritical about people coming onto an immigration forum and complaining about other people wishing to move countries.

We've been over it quite a few times on here which is why I'm surprised we are still going.

Certain posters want to re-hash old arguments. A refugee is simply a person just like they are. Sadly (or perhaps not at all) they don't have the time or the resource to sit on a forum chat room and defend themselves.

JamesM Dec 22nd 2015 9:27 pm

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11819921)
Are you insinuating that charity should be unconditional or that Christian Charity shouldn't be restricted to Christians?

He who is with out sin may cast the first stone

BristolUK Dec 22nd 2015 10:59 pm

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 
I came across this article about how refugees having fled Syria were then in nice, cozy safe havens where everything is fluffy kittens and candy.

Or not.
https://news.vice.com/article/in-pic...ets-the-region

caretaker Dec 23rd 2015 1:14 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11820179)
I came across this article about how refugees having fled Syria were then in nice, cozy safe havens where everything is fluffy kittens and candy.
Or not.
https://news.vice.com/article/in-pic...ets-the-region

The first wave arrives in Moncton in January so you'll have enough time to paint the suite and Bob's your uncle. ;)

BristolUK Dec 23rd 2015 4:23 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11820256)
The first wave arrives in Moncton in January so you'll have enough time to paint the suite and Bob's your uncle. ;)

There are a few here already. The charities have been overwhelmed by clothing donations.

I've yet to hear of any accommodation appeals. We don't have a finished basement let alone a suite but there's a vacancy at the duplex awaiting. ;)

Almost Canadian Dec 23rd 2015 7:55 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11820414)
There are a few here already. The charities have been overwhelmed by clothing donations.

I've yet to hear of any accommodation appeals. We don't have a finished basement let alone a suite but there's a vacancy at the duplex awaiting. ;)

Have you offered it to the appropriate authorities?

Novocastrian Dec 23rd 2015 9:26 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 11820533)
Have you offered it to the appropriate authorities?

I'm sure that you, being in Alberta a bit south of Calgary, can put BristolUK in touch with the appropriate authorities in Moncton. I suppose you think he's an incompetent fool for suggesting that he might be willing to help out.

BristolUK Dec 23rd 2015 10:08 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 11820533)
Have you offered it to the appropriate authorities?

Can't afford to do it for nothing but would certainly reduce the rent and consider waiving the deposit for someone supported by the authorities.

I suspect, however, that with current vacancy rates and cheaper places available, those would be the places targeted.

caretaker Dec 23rd 2015 11:11 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11820603)
Can't afford to do it for nothing but would certainly reduce the rent and consider waiving the deposit for someone supported by the authorities.
I suspect, however, that with current vacancy rates and cheaper places available, those would be the places targeted.

If your rent is fair and the place is up to snuff you shouldn't have to reduce the price (make a cash back deal for shovelling snow). I found a link to the NB Multicultural council under Offer Housing that says 'thank you for helping us identify affordable rental accommodations across New Brunswick for Syrian refugees' I'm bad at links but: http://www.nb-mc.ca/help-with-refugees-offer-housing/
There you go, click on the Syrian refugee button at the top then scroll down to housing and so on. I don't know the drill but if they have a list of rental properties you can probably get on it with a description and price just like a normal listing. No smoking might cut out a few potential renters but it always does.

BristolUK Dec 23rd 2015 1:53 pm

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11820622)
If your rent is fair and the place is up to snuff you shouldn't have to reduce the price (make a cash back deal for shovelling snow). I found a link to the NB Multicultural council under Offer Housing that says 'thank you for helping us identify affordable rental accommodations across New Brunswick for Syrian refugees' I'm bad at links but: http://www.nb-mc.ca/help-with-refugees-offer-housing/
There you go, click on the Syrian refugee button at the top then scroll down to housing and so on. I don't know the drill but if they have a list of rental properties you can probably get on it with a description and price just like a normal listing. No smoking might cut out a few potential renters but it always does.

You're right, you're bad at links. It didn't work but I found it :rofl:

Thanks very much for that. :) I really expected something in the paper or from the municipality who are also involved. I'm on their emailing list.

The key seems to be "affordable housing" and while I think it's very good value, there are tons of decent places for quite a bit less and with heat and lights included. Not so conveniently situated as mine, not as big, no storage, no balcony/deck etc.

I've also got a contractor doing snow blowing for the drive.

But I've given them details to see what they say.

And there's a mosque about 10 minutes walk away.
http://www.salatomatic.com/images/photos/5130.jpg

Tirytory Dec 23rd 2015 1:56 pm

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11820675)
You're right, you're bad at links. It didn't work but I found it :rofl:

Thanks very much for that. :) I really expected something in the paper or from the municipality who are also involved. I'm on their emailing list.

The key seems to be "affordable housing" and while I think it's very good value, there are tons of decent places for quite a bit less and with heat and lights included. Not so conveniently situated as mine, not as big, no storage, no balcony/deck etc.

I've also got a contractor doing snow blowing for the drive.

But I've given them details to see what they say.

The community next to us were looking for housing for a Syrian family. They (the community host) seemed to be offering fair market value.


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