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MikeUK Dec 20th 2015 9:06 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11818176)
but on the whole I think Europeans are behind the refugees.

Really ?

In most cases the fences went up and people stopped caring as they dropped off the news

BristolUK Dec 20th 2015 10:02 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 11818246)
In most cases the fences went up and people stopped caring as they dropped off the news

Opinion polls since Paris show 44% of Brits against refugees - as opposed to 39% from before. Not a huge increase considering and still a minority.

In the US it went from 46% to 48%. Also not a huge rise and still a minority.

Conversely, the figure in Canada is about a third and actually dropped.

Doesn't sound much like people having stopped caring.

I understand Guardian readers have raised in excess of £1.3m. :thumbup:

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 20th 2015 11:11 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11818189)
Maybe it's a clarion call to the government to build affordable housing for everybody; it's long overdue. They need a list, I should make a list of priorities and send it to PM Trudeau. I shook his father's hand once.

The biggest frustration I hear from people regarding refugees and foreign aid, is the money should used at home first to fix the poverty issues we have. Not so much against refugees, just against spending money overseas when people are in need at home and largely ignored.


Take BC for example, desperate need for affordable housing, but the province largely doesn't do much. And once outside of Vancouver, affordable housing through BC housing becomes almost non-existent.

The rental assistance program (provides assistance for those who don't have access to BC Housing) is only available to those with kids, leaving the rest of the poor out.

Disabled folks who use nearly all their 906/month on housing with nothing left for food and other necessities because the province says
375 per month is sufficient for housing.

The poor and poverty in Canada is largely ignored, and this does frustrate people. Poverty affects all races.

Novocastrian Dec 20th 2015 9:05 pm

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by paw339 (Post 11818168)
Would you call Bernie Sanders, Podemos, Syriza, the new Portuguese government fascist? They all have risen in popularity with an anti political elite/establishment message.

A classic (intentional) category error. Being anti-austerity policies imposed by the "elite" has nothing to do with being anti-refugee, which in turn has nothing to do with anti-immigration.

MikeUK Dec 20th 2015 9:33 pm

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11818279)
Opinion polls since Paris show 44% of Brits against refugees - as opposed to 39% from before. Not a huge increase considering and still a minority. In the US it went from 46% to 48%. Also not a huge rise and still a minority. Conversely, the figure in Canada is about a third and actually dropped. Doesn't sound much like people having stopped caring. I understand Guardian readers have raised in excess of £1.3m. :thumbup:

That article is a month out of date ?
The audience is fickle.. things move on..
The interest in the news at the moment that's at all related to migrants is all the talk around EU Brexit & Cameron.. and they're more focused on the possible resignations in the Tory party if they're told which way to vote than anything about a few Syrians

Shard Dec 20th 2015 9:58 pm

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 
I don't think it's the audience that's fickle, it's the media itself. They dish up what we consume.

MikeUK Dec 20th 2015 10:28 pm

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11818573)
I don't think it's the audience that's fickle, it's the media itself. They dish up what we consume.

Ohh... I beg to differ
the 'mob' is notoriously fickle and has been throughout history

and Media knows to survive it needs to sell advertising, and for that to sell, it needs topic's that will get audiences......
Migrants are passé ............

JamesM Dec 20th 2015 10:58 pm

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 
People want blood.

It was Mourinho last week and this week it is Van Gaal.

The Daily Mail has moved on to reality TV relationships as it's landing page headline:
Strictly Come Dancing winner Jay McGuiness says he and Aliona Vilani are just friends | Daily Mail Online

I have to say I am surprised this thread is still running.

dbd33 Dec 20th 2015 11:49 pm

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11818599)
People want blood.

It was Mourinho last week and this week it is Van Gaal.

The Daily Mail has moved on to reality TV relationships as it's landing page headline:
Strictly Come Dancing winner Jay McGuiness says he and Aliona Vilani are just friends | Daily Mail Online

I have to say I am surprised this thread is still running.

I saw signage in Orangeville on the weekend, "Welcome Syrians". I wondered if Syrians landing in Orangeville knew how lucky they were not to be in Nunavut.

JamesM Dec 21st 2015 12:05 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11818617)
I saw signage in Orangeville on the weekend, "Welcome Syrians". I wondered if Syrians landing in Orangeville knew how lucky they were not to be in Nunavut.

They try to take credit for everything in Orangeville.

They're probably not even hosting any refugees.

caretaker Dec 21st 2015 12:14 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 
I'll see your 25,000 and raise 25,000.

dbd33 Dec 21st 2015 12:16 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11818623)
They try to take credit for everything in Orangeville.

They're probably not even hosting any refugees.

They'll live in Brampton and be driven in for civic events.

BristolUK Dec 21st 2015 1:03 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 11818565)
That article is a month out of date ?

It's only out of date if it's been done again since.

However, you appear to have missed that rather important factor of what happened in between the two months referred to that might reasonably be expected to remove a lot of sympathy and it didn't.

The audience is fickle.. things move on..
Except opinion didn't change much and one of the three examples mentioned went the other way.;)

MikeUK Dec 21st 2015 1:26 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11818646)
It's only out of date if it's been done again since. However, you appear to have missed that rather important factor of what happened in between the two months referred to that might reasonably be expected to remove a lot of sympathy and it didn't.Except opinion didn't change much and one of the three examples mentioned went the other way.;)

Have you watched any news in the UK or noticed what's filling the papers
Taken note of the conversations at Lunch time ?
or even taken notice of who's not made the radar screen of the Christmas charities begging on TV
... its dropped off the Radar here (UK)...............Nobody cares

BristolUK Dec 21st 2015 1:47 am

Re: Syrian refugee crisis.
 

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 11818660)
Have you watched any news in the UK or noticed what's filling the papers
Taken note of the conversations at Lunch time ?
or even taken notice of who's not made the radar screen of the Christmas charities begging on TV
... its dropped off the Radar here (UK)...............Nobody cares


I must admit I do soil myself looking at the mail sometimes. I can confirm that very popular UK newspaper along with all the readers who post comments are far from ignoring it.


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