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fuchs01 Dec 4th 2013 1:24 am

Re: gays not welcomed
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 11020501)
:goodpost:

Spot on.

Thats nice, somebody out there, ...does like me.

dbd33 Dec 4th 2013 1:44 am

Re: gays not welcomed
 

Originally Posted by fuchs01 (Post 11020520)
Thats nice, somebody out there, ...does like me.

Well, I'm confused. Your post seemed to me to say that the world has moved on and you accept gay marriage is part of that evolution. paulry endorsed the post.

It seems like we're done here, no one is holding out against gay marriage any more.

ultrarunner Dec 4th 2013 2:39 am

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZXabqjf4eC...dead-horse.jpg

TheCreature Dec 4th 2013 7:32 am

Re: gays not welcomed
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11020415)
Can you substantiate this? Do you have any way of knowing what, if anything, other people believe?


Originally Posted by montreal mike (Post 11020418)
yes i too found that assertion strange

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest...r_of_adherents

If you want to dispute the figures take it up with Wiki, not me.

dbd33 Dec 4th 2013 7:37 am

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Originally Posted by TheCreature (Post 11020994)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest...r_of_adherents

If you want to dispute the figures take it up with Wiki, not me.

I don't think I have a quibble with Wiki, from your link:

'In the latter half of the 20th century, the category of "world religion" fell into serious question, especially for drawing parallels between vastly different cultures, and thereby creating an arbitrary separation between the religious and the secular.[6] Even history professors have now taken note of these complications and advise against teaching "world religions" in schools.[7] Others see the shaping of religions in the context of the nation-state as the "invention of traditions".'

I accept that most people in the world belong to some sort of tradition. It is, however, a huge leap from that to the idea that most people believe in some form of religion.

TheCreature Dec 4th 2013 7:44 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11021007)
I accept that most people in the world belong to some sort of tradition. It is, however, a huge leap from that to the idea that most people believe in some form of religion.

Personally I'm happy to believe that when somebody is asked, "are you a Muslim/Christian/Jew/etc" and their response is "yes", that they might actually consider themselves to be a member of that religion.

If your happy to believe otherwise, then go for it.

jimf Dec 4th 2013 9:01 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11021007)
I don't think I have a quibble with Wiki, from your link:

'In the latter half of the 20th century, the category of "world religion" fell into serious question, especially for drawing parallels between vastly different cultures, and thereby creating an arbitrary separation between the religious and the secular.[6] Even history professors have now taken note of these complications and advise against teaching "world religions" in schools.[7] Others see the shaping of religions in the context of the nation-state as the "invention of traditions".'

I accept that most people in the world belong to some sort of tradition. It is, however, a huge leap from that to the idea that most people believe in some form of religion.

Cultural Christian are you or what is your tradition?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_politics/7136682.stm

Sally Redux Dec 4th 2013 9:07 am

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I have met people from Christian, Jewish and Muslim backgrounds who identify with their group but are happy to say they do not believe in God.

Shard Dec 4th 2013 9:09 am

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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11021174)
I have met people from Christian, Jewish and Muslim backgrounds who identify with their group but are happy to say they do not believe in God.

That is how it should be. But so few are afraid or unaware of how to say that.

TheCreature Dec 4th 2013 9:16 am

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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11021174)
I have met people from Christian, Jewish and Muslim backgrounds who identify with their group but are happy to say they do not believe in God.

Well that's half a dozen we can remove from billions then. When they pray, who do they think they are praying too?

Sally Redux Dec 4th 2013 9:20 am

Re: gays not welcomed
 

Originally Posted by TheCreature (Post 11021191)
Well that's half a dozen we can remove from billions then. When they pray, who do they think they are praying too?

Why are you always so angry? :confused:

TheCreature Dec 4th 2013 9:22 am

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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11021195)
Why are you always so angry? :confused:

Seeing what you want to see... as usual.

TheCreature Dec 4th 2013 9:24 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11021177)
That is how it should be. But so few are afraid or unaware of how to say that.

How do you figure that out?
Perhaps they are happy to say they believe in 'God' because they do?

Shard Dec 4th 2013 9:29 am

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Originally Posted by TheCreature (Post 11021205)
How do you figure that out?
Perhaps they are happy to say they believe in 'God' because they do?

I don't doubt that at all. But there are also people who think they believe in god, when in fact they believe in belief.

Sally Redux Dec 4th 2013 9:30 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11021209)
I don't doubt that at all. But there are also people who think they believe in god, when in fact they believe in belief.

Some people also like the family and community ties and traditions, but don't believe at all.


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