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Old Aug 23rd 2011 | 9:39 pm
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Originally Posted by fatbrit
So where's the underground bunker in the UK where the deluded dream up these garbage emails? Or do they share with their Utah cousins?
There is plenty of truth in the post!
 
Old Aug 23rd 2011 | 9:55 pm
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Here they come....
Running down the street..
With a flat screen TV
and a 3 piece suite:::
Hey Hey they're the monkees!.
 
Old Aug 23rd 2011 | 10:21 pm
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Originally Posted by stevebenaulim
Here they come....
Running down the street..
With a flat screen TV
and a 3 piece suite:::
Hey Hey they're the monkees!.
Thanks for lightening up the thread
At the moment it is going round in circles as NOBODY Has the Answer.
 
Old Aug 23rd 2011 | 11:02 pm
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The only answer i can see coming out of this debate is that its not healthy to sweep problems under the carpet or it will happen again and again.Its not just about pouring money in to the inner cities or pouring people into our out-dated unhealthy jails, which in reality are just crime colleges.Banging people up never solved anything just like hanging never deterred murderers or murder. For too long society has turned its collective back on the social problems that we are experiencing in the UK.If any thing the riots have opened societies eyes to the fact that we have collectively produced uneducated feral children, teens and young men who have no investment at all in getting on in life.Call them nihilistic or savage illiterate yobs or criminal low lifes, they have to be confronted and strangely enough its happening now.Look at what happened in Clapham and Peckham.Thousands came out to clear up the damaged streets and at the same time heckled Boris Johnson and The Home Secretary too as representatives of a political system that was found wanting in the face of civil disorders.Do you know what they call single mothers here in London.Crime Factories.Its that sort of awareness thats going to change things.The rioters used Blackberries to communicate with each other. Society is now using the internet to communicate with the government to tell them whats wrong instead of the old way of them telling us whats wrong.Its not going to happen over night but it is happening slowly.Politicians of the old school are in for a hard time if they think that just chuck them in jail and that will shut them up and i can go on claiming my expenses. Hillsborough is a good example of that.For years people knew that the police lost control and the report was suppressed by Thatcher. With the new system of E-petitions to Parliament over 100,000 e-signatures were in place in just over a week.Now there has to be a Parliamentary debate as to why the report was suppressed.
 
Old Aug 24th 2011 | 12:10 am
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Originally Posted by prestonjohn
The only answer i can see coming out of this debate is that its not healthy to sweep problems under the carpet or it will happen again and again.Its not just about pouring money in to the inner cities or pouring people into our out-dated unhealthy jails, which in reality are just crime colleges.Banging people up never solved anything just like hanging never deterred murderers or murder. For too long society has turned its collective back on the social problems that we are experiencing in the UK.If any thing the riots have opened societies eyes to the fact that we have collectively produced uneducated feral children, teens and young men who have no investment at all in getting on in life.Call them nihilistic or savage illiterate yobs or criminal low lifes, they have to be confronted and strangely enough its happening now.Look at what happened in Clapham and Peckham.Thousands came out to clear up the damaged streets and at the same time heckled Boris Johnson and The Home Secretary too as representatives of a political system that was found wanting in the face of civil disorders.Do you know what they call single mothers here in London.Crime Factories.Its that sort of awareness thats going to change things.The rioters used Blackberries to communicate with each other. Society is now using the internet to communicate with the government to tell them whats wrong instead of the old way of them telling us whats wrong.Its not going to happen over night but it is happening slowly.Politicians of the old school are in for a hard time if they think that just chuck them in jail and that will shut them up and i can go on claiming my expenses. Hillsborough is a good example of that.For years people knew that the police lost control and the report was suppressed by Thatcher. With the new system of E-petitions to Parliament over 100,000 e-signatures were in place in just over a week.Now there has to be a Parliamentary debate as to why the report was suppressed.
In prison they can't even control drugs!
 
Old Aug 24th 2011 | 2:19 am
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Originally Posted by noni
There is plenty of truth in the post!
For gawd's sake make an effort with that thing between your ears! Let's take the initial premise:
There are about 10 million people over 50 in the work force.
Pay them £1 million each severance for early retirement

and see whether this is feasible. 10E6 x 1E6 = 1E13

or in easy-to-say terms, 10 trillion GBP.

Now -- because I can't be bothered to totally spoon feed folks -- go and find the GDP of the UK and tell me whether you now think the first premise is actually feasible.
 
Old Aug 24th 2011 | 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by fatbrit
For gawd's sake make an effort with that thing between your ears! Let's take the initial premise:
There are about 10 million people over 50 in the work force.
Pay them £1 million each severance for early retirement

and see whether this is feasible. 10E6 x 1E6 = 1E13

or in easy-to-say terms, 10 trillion GBP.

Now -- because I can't be bothered to totally spoon feed folks -- go and find the GDP of the UK and tell me whether you now think the first premise is actually feasible.
Bollox - let us hear what you would do! "Spoon feed people" with the tosh you lefties are seriously spewing out I would rather go back to fantasy land. End of subject from me.
 
Old Aug 24th 2011 | 2:45 am
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Originally Posted by noni
Bollox - let us hear what you would do! "Spoon feed people" with the tosh you lefties are seriously spewing out I would rather go back to fantasy land. End of subject from me.
The ability to do basic maths and apply elementary critical thinking skills to the piece you posted is neither tosh nor the preserve of lefties.

I've already stated what I would propose to cure the fundamental issue -- excessive disparity in wealth. Look back and you'll find it with an ice cream flavour.
 
Old Aug 24th 2011 | 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by fatbrit
For gawd's sake make an effort with that thing between your ears! Let's take the initial premise:
There are about 10 million people over 50 in the work force.
Pay them £1 million each severance for early retirement

and see whether this is feasible. 10E6 x 1E6 = 1E13

or in easy-to-say terms, 10 trillion GBP.

Now -- because I can't be bothered to totally spoon feed folks -- go and find the GDP of the UK and tell me whether you now think the first premise is actually feasible.
Fatbrit

This post, as with several other posts of yours is rude and offensive, and unnecessarily so.
Everyone posting on this thread responds to you in a polite manor, even when disagreeing with your views, and on occasions when your posts appear to resemble 'put downs' of other posters.

As for your comment of spoon feeding, I point out to you that all I have seen from you are left wing generalised know it all comments about how things should change, without any suggestions on the practical application and achievement of those idealisms.

Everyone is welcome on this forum, including you, and everyone has the right to post their views, even if they are not in agrement with you, but if you cannot behave with the respect and decorum that we on the Goa forum expect, then please return to the TIO where it appears that rudeness is the norm. It is not welcome here, so I would really appreciate it if you would tone it down, even if you don't like other peoples' posts and views. There are other ways to get your post accross and you will find that it would be better received when put into polite and constructive words.

Thank you

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Originally Posted by noni
There is plenty of truth in the post!
You've got to be joking, this has been posted numerous times in various guises of who it is addressed to and which country it refers to, the maths is totally wrong.
 
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Originally Posted by dreadsoc
behave with the respect and decorum that we on the Goa forum expect,
Like this you mean?

Originally Posted by noni
Bollox - let us hear what you would do! "Spoon feed people" with the tosh you lefties are seriously spewing out I would rather go back to fantasy land. End of subject from me.
 
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Originally Posted by noni
Bollox - let us hear what you would do! "Spoon feed people" with the tosh you lefties are seriously spewing out I would rather go back to fantasy land. End of subject from me.
You go girl!!!!!
 
Old Aug 24th 2011 | 8:46 am
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Originally Posted by Tina1
You go girl!!!!!
I did bring myself down to their level, hey ho! that's life. You all know I am a dumb blonde
 
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
You've got to be joking, this has been posted numerous times in various guises of who it is addressed to and which country it refers to, the maths is totally wrong.
I never thought it was meant to be taken seriously so the math is irrelevant.
 
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Originally Posted by k800mer
I never thought it was meant to be taken seriously so the math is irrelevant.
Me neither K800mer. Everyone knows it is one of those emails that does the rounds, which is why the mathmatic condescension was so unnecessary.

Only wish there was a golden solution to all the social grief in the UK !

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