563 people arrested and in cells in London!

Open looting!

Children as young as 10 on the streets. Where are the parents?

Armoured vehicles on London Roads.

Rioting last night in Leeds, Liverpool, Bristol, Birmingham etc.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-citizens.html

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337

David Cameron: "I am granting the Metropolitan Police emergency powers to use water cannons, rubber bullets and tear gas to take back control of our streets from these ponsing parasites biting the hand that feeds them. In addition I am deploying the British Army as a visible presence to provide the authority that is so very lacking.".....Carlsberg don't do Prime Ministers but if they did.

On the BBC news tonight one person caught leaving the scene of looting with looted goods was charged with handling stolen property, the Magistrate fined him £100 then let him off paying it as he had been in custody for 21 hours! It's the usual you have been a naughty boy now go home, it leaves him free to do the same again tonight. What message does that send to the rest of these criminal thugs.

Listen to this reporter embarassing herself and the Bbc - not something they would want to air again but its all over the Internet



BBC anchor humiliated by journalist Darcus Howe

BBC-apologises-for-accusing-Darcus-Howe

Watched that rubbish right the way through.

Cant see what the BBC reporter did or said wrong?

Certainly cant see that she embarrassed herself?

The American reporter was twisting words and highly irritating however.

Does someone on this forum have a bit of an issue here?


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Agree with you johnny five, the questions were perfectly reasonable given what the man was saying. The American reporter is trying to make something out of nothing and big up his story.
quote from the Telegraph:
'But Howe, speaking from the aftermath of the disturbances in Croydon, responded: ''I have never taken part in a single riot. I've been part of demonstrations that ended up in a conflict.'
To me a demonstration that ends up in conflict is a riot,

Its quite shameful Noni and although everyone keeps trying to find excuses for their behaviour and their ethnicity its basically just theft and vandalism..the courts will no doubt prove that the punishment does not fit the crime. In the past we used to send them to Australia but then you had to pay ten pounds to go and now its almost impossible to go there..what about the moon?

Simple really -

This is what you get when you fill a Western modern cosmopolitan city up with third world people with an alien culture = third world disorder. Just look at the countries where these people (and their parents) come from.

As for BBC reporting - when it comes to groups of WHITE looters they are WHITE LOOTERS. When it comes to groups of BLACK LOOTERS they are described simply as Youths.

FACT - The looters are 85% BLACK and foreign.

You are always going to get WHITE criminal types who take advantage of a situation like this. This scum is OUR responsibility the others are NOT.

That Darcus chap from Lewisham has a long history of causing mischief. Goodness knows why he was ever allowed to become a celebrated journalist? Another example of New Labour's ridiculous political correctness.

50 plus years of Anti-British traitor governments. Our version of democracy goes like this - Lab, Con, Lab, Con, Lab, Lab, Lab, Con, Con, Con, Lab, Condem.... so on and so on.... It gets us nowhere.

We are sleepwalking to oblivion and WAR.

Its not racist to report the facts.

Sad but true.

It is so sad to read this bigoted view...have a look at the roll call of those up in courts. Not as many "foreigners" as you would have us believe. BTW: Are black youngsters born here "foreigners" as far as you're concerned?

I also wonder where you got the quote from - 85% looters are black. Have you conducted a survey no one knows about?

I really don't mindfreading a range of views - but surely they need to be well informed to start off with!

If thats bigotted, long live bigotted!

Anything that doesnt conform to the politically correct, apologist, left wing ideals that have brought us to this situation is condemned as bigotted, racist, or even neo-nazi!

To answer a couple of points, 85% of rioters/looters black?
Clearly ridiculous.
Anyone watching even the biased BBC coverage during the first couple of days of these outrages would have seen with their own eyes that at least 95% were black.......

If they dont speak the Queen's English in their homes and communities, and do not behave in a decent and acceptable way?
Yes, too bl@@dy right they are foreigners.

And always will be because that is what THEY have chosen to be.


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Even more sad that it comes from a (retired) police officer. Also, his implication that english residents/citizens originally from the third world are responsible for these riots is very questionable - I would be interested in how he reached this conclusion as there are many 'modern western cosmopolitan cities filled with third world people with alien culture' that dont have such problems - particularly at this scale.
Toronto is atleast one such city where I have experienced people of all colour/religion/ ethnicity living in harmony with each other. While rioting is not unique to England, what is disturbing is the scale and manner in which it spread to other english cities which in my view is indicative of deep discontent/resentment of a significant number of people (whether black white brown)- not just in one city but many other cities in the same country.

I do not believe I am racist but I did watch the films of rioters on tv and the great majority appeared to be from ethnic backgrounds. I expect Oktata that you will now say I am racist for saying that. As for Canada having a large ethnic mix I really do not think you have any idea just what a large % of the people that live in the cities where there has been trouble are of ethnic origins. Even 30+ years ago when we drove into Birmingham my son then aged about 4 asked if we were in Africa as the only people he could see were of African decent. Canada is a huge country with a population of about 34 million whereas the UK is not and has an increasing population which in 2006 was over 60 million, you can travel from London to Birmingham in under 3 hours. It is a totally different situation.

Of course, someone who doesnt even live in the UK would have a much better grasp of the present social disaster than a Police Officer (rtd) who has been in the frontline of this warzone for years?

If you want to know what its really like, try living in the Britain of today (it would improve your cred' as a BritishExpat )

As for other cosmopolitan cities, do you remember the major riots in Paris a few years back? Do you remember the"origins" of the vast majority of the rioters?

If I seem a little disinterested in all this theorising, it might be because I just heard of a friend locally who was moving from running one Derby pub to another. Last night both pubs were attacked and their removal van (full) torched, and all by "ethnic" kids......witnessed.

Bipat will be turning in her grave .......metaphorically speaking, of course

Kent Detective, keep up the good work!


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How bad is it really in London? No not during this bought of rioting but genrally, let me give you an idea. I purchased my current business in April 2009 a bar restaurant hotel in a very sleepy devon village on the River Dart since being here I have spent nothing on security staff (door men) - My previous business was in central London a night club bar and restaurant average annual cost for security staff there about 140,000 pounds a year! Trust me we had those guys for no other reason than we needed them to keep our customers, our staff and ourselves safe. London is a nightmare now, you can live in a great 'area' but 100 metres down the road it will be like a warzone!
Unless the government are absolutely draconian in the measures they take this scenario will be repeated for the least excuse.