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Old Aug 13th 2011 | 8:30 pm
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Originally Posted by dreadsoc
And for many of those who are immigrants or sons/daughters of immigrants from places such as Africa etc - they certainly would have a lot less in their homelands than they have in Britian !

These people are mindless thugs and should be treated as such, without the left wing element cossetting them and pandering to them by making excuses and blaming everyone except the thugs themselves, who lets face it have CHOSEN to behave in the most disgusting and vile manner.

Let's get real here - there is no reasonable excuse for this outrageous conduct in our society.

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I agree regarding the rioters. I was fuming when I watched it on TV and totally confused as to why it was happening. My point was that the inference was that it was all black immigrants

Originally Posted by noni
I do agree with Kent Detective's views.

People are given "Council" houses, why don't they keep their area's clean and tidy, graffiti, litter, broken windows, shops boarded up, etc,. they are the ones who decide to live like pigs in S***. "Deprived" they want to be grateful and look after what they have been given, they are the ones that bleat about their living conditions. As for no jobs, most of them would be unemployable, they waste their "dole" (which we are paying for" on drink and drugs.

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These people are mindless thugs and should be treated as such, without the left wing element cossetting them and pandering to them by making excuses and blaming everyone except the thugs themselves, who lets face it have CHOSEN to behave in the most disgusting and vile manner.

Let's get real here - there is no reasonable excuse for this outrageous conduct in our society.
Given council houses? No ... they have to pay rent for them just like any other renters. And the powers that be tend to try and put all "problem" families together ... so what do they expect? Peace and harmony?

You, now, are making huge generalisations about their lifestyles. I'm sure many of them would love to get out of the ghettos they are in, but it's not as easy as some here would make out. And as for bleating about their living conditions ... their landlord is responsible for the upkeep of the property, and some of it I saw in the past is frankly way beyond repair and not fit to live in due to damp and mould. So please tell me how someone on the dole who cant get a job and according to you spends all their money on dope and booze, is going to be able to put that right?????? It's the government that should, and I can tell you they are just not interested
 
Old Aug 13th 2011 | 8:33 pm
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Originally Posted by stevebenaulim
why do Immigrants travel through Spain, Italy, Greece etc etc to wait in France to get into the UK???, why dont they stay in these other European countries???.
They do!!!!!!!!!
France and Spain is flooded with them!
 
Old Aug 13th 2011 | 8:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
I agree regarding the rioters. I was fuming when I watched it on TV and totally confused as to why it was happening. My point was that the inference was that it was all black immigrants



Given council houses? No ... they have to pay rent for them just like any other renters. And the powers that be tend to try and put all "problem" families together ... so what do they expect? Peace and harmony?

You, now, are making huge generalisations about their lifestyles. I'm sure many of them would love to get out of the ghettos they are in, but it's not as easy as some here would make out. And as for bleating about their living conditions ... their landlord is responsible for the upkeep of the property, and some of it I saw in the past is frankly way beyond repair and not fit to live in due to damp and mould. So please tell me how someone on the dole who cant get a job and according to you spends all their money on dope and booze, is going to be able to put that right?????? It's the government that should, and I can tell you they are just not interested
Why do Immigrants cross so many other European countries?, trying to get into the UK???.
 
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
They do!!!!!!!!!
France and Spain is flooded with them!
France, Spain, Italy (where i now live, it used to be Spain), yes is flooded with them, but they must earn, no handouts, benefits, medical, housing etc etc. Why are the camps set up in France with 1000s of Immigrants waiting to get into the UK???.
 
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
They do!!!!!!!!!
France and Spain is flooded with them!
YES THEY DO
 
Old Aug 13th 2011 | 8:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
They do!!!!!!!!!
France and Spain is flooded with them!
How many Somalis do you see in Spain, London is full of Somalis living on benefits, im not sure about the rest of the UK, and believe me, they are a dangereous bunch!!.
 
Old Aug 13th 2011 | 8:52 pm
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Originally Posted by stevebenaulim
How many Somalis do you see in Spain, London is full of Somalis living on benefits, im not sure about the rest of the UK, and believe me, they are a dangereous bunch!!.
Why pick on the Somalis now

I dont know if it's a while since you've been here, but you dont have to go too far to find beggars. Yes, you can claim benefits here, but its limited and you have to have worked on the system. I dont know about France tbh.
I guess you have the figures for all of them living on benefits, do you?

Thats the trouble when people start throwing all this around, they actually dont really know.... it's just opinions based on what they think. Like people saying you can just march into the UK and start claiming everything. It's simply not the case. I'm sure there are people that do, for various reasons, but it is not the general case any more. If I could find it I would get the official piece on it that I read some time back, but afraid I aint got the time at the moment

Show me the official figures then of all the Somalis that you say are living on benefits. How do you know this?

PS .... Spain is instigating free health care for all at the moment .... if it works, who knows!
 
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[QUOTE=Mitzyboy;9558262]Why pick on the Somalis now

I dont know if it's a while since you've been here, but you dont have to go too far to find beggars. Yes, you can claim benefits here, but its limited and you have to have worked on the system. I dont know about France tbh.
I guess you have the figures for all of them living on benefits, do you?

Thats the trouble when people start throwing all this around, they actually dont really know.... it's just opinions based on what they think. Like people saying you can just march into the UK and start claiming everything. It's simply not the case. I'm sure there are people that do, for various reasons, but it is not the general case any more. If I could find it I would get the official piece on it that I read some time back, but afraid I aint got the time at the moment

Show me the official figures then of all the Somalis that you say are living on benefits. How do you know this?

PS .... Spain is instigating free health care for all at the moment .... if it works, who knows![/QUOTE
I have friends still stuck in London, without heads stuck in the sand, they tell me about the Somalis, im pleased you said about benefits in Spain as you will know, if you dont pay in the system you dont get nothing back.I do know about France and even more so about Italy, all simular to Spain if you dont pay in you cant take out.
Why are the camps set up in France, full of Immigrants trying to get into the UK??? IS IT THE WEATHER???
Even how home grown blacks are afraid of these Somalis, if you want figures i cant be arsed getting them, i just live and have lived in the real world.
 
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
Why pick on the Somalis now

I dont know if it's a while since you've been here, but you dont have to go too far to find beggars. Yes, you can claim benefits here, but its limited and you have to have worked on the system. I dont know about France tbh.
I guess you have the figures for all of them living on benefits, do you?

Thats the trouble when people start throwing all this around, they actually dont really know.... it's just opinions based on what they think. Like people saying you can just march into the UK and start claiming everything. It's simply not the case. I'm sure there are people that do, for various reasons, but it is not the general case any more. If I could find it I would get the official piece on it that I read some time back, but afraid I aint got the time at the moment

Show me the official figures then of all the Somalis that you say are living on benefits. How do you know this?

PS .... Spain is instigating free health care for all at the moment .... if it works, who knows!

Actually a Somali TV reporter has expressed worry about the lawlessness of some Somali young people and quite a number who are here illegally.

While you are on line Mitzy could I ask your view of the agreement of Moderator Noni with the view that UK should be "White Christian Only".
 
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Im still half in and half out of Spain, and yes i see the Immigrants going through the rubbish bins as not the handouts the UK has???, argue all you want this is a fact.
Why are the border crossings btween France and the UK full of Immigrants waiting to get into the UK???.
Do you think its because the UK give them benefits, housing, money, medical???.
If you want i can tell you a lovely story about a Goan family living in the UK???, A life on benefits.
Say the word and i will tell you the story.
No i dont have proof, you will need to take my word on it??.
 
Old Aug 13th 2011 | 9:12 pm
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Thank you Noni, so you agree that UK should be for "white christians only" at least we know now.

(I think though that many, many UK citizens would find this view unacceptable not just those of other faiths or colour).

NO I don't, but I agree with 99% of what Detective said, your remarks are very unfair, and just taking one point only. Just read his posts, and look passed that remark. You can't just pick and choose parts.
 
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Originally Posted by Bipat
Actually a Somali TV reporter has expressed worry about the lawlessness of some Somali young people and quite a number who are here illegally.

While you are on line Mitzy could I ask your view of the agreement of Moderator Noni with the view that UK should be "White Christian Only".
I think you are being unfair about the white Christian only??, she agreed with most said as i did, no you can not have white christian only.
 
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NO I don't, but I agree with 99% of what Detective said, your remarks are very unfair, and just taking one point only. Just read his posts, and look passed that remark. You can't just pick and choose parts.
Bipat often picks up on one thing, not the overall picture, at leasts shes back, i hope the Kent detective comes back also.
It take all sorts, as long as they are not living on benefits
 
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
I agree regarding the rioters. I was fuming when I watched it on TV and totally confused as to why it was happening. My point was that the inference was that it was all black immigrants



Given council houses? No ... they have to pay rent for them just like any other renters. And the powers that be tend to try and put all "problem" families together ... so what do they expect? Peace and harmony?

You, now, are making huge generalisations about their lifestyles. I'm sure many of them would love to get out of the ghettos they are in, but it's not as easy as some here would make out. And as for bleating about their living conditions ... their landlord is responsible for the upkeep of the property, and some of it I saw in the past is frankly way beyond repair and not fit to live in due to damp and mould. So please tell me how someone on the dole who cant get a job and according to you spends all their money on dope and booze, is going to be able to put that right?????? It's the government that should, and I can tell you they are just not interested
This is getting off the point, but I will answer you. We have rented out properties to people whose payments are made by the Government, and believe me they don't look after the properties, they were disgusting. I could report here many cases, but this is not the subject.
You should also go and see what the state of properties are left in after people have the bailiffs in for none payment of rent.
Now back to the rioting.

Do you believe they should be sent to the army?
Do you think Social Workers/Probation Officers are doing their job properly
 
Old Aug 13th 2011 | 9:24 pm
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Originally Posted by stevebenaulim
Bipat often picks up on one thing, not the overall picture, at leasts shes back, i hope the Kent detective comes back also.
It take all sorts, as long as they are not living on benefits
This is exactly what I mean - don't pick on a small part you don't like, look at the whole picture, and have your say. I too hope Kent D comes back to liven up the place.
 


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