UK RIOTS
#61
And for many of those who are immigrants or sons/daughters of immigrants from places such as Africa etc - they certainly would have a lot less in their homelands than they have in Britian !
These people are mindless thugs and should be treated as such, without the left wing element cossetting them and pandering to them by making excuses and blaming everyone except the thugs themselves, who lets face it have CHOSEN to behave in the most disgusting and vile manner.
Let's get real here - there is no reasonable excuse for this outrageous conduct in our society.
Dread - x
These people are mindless thugs and should be treated as such, without the left wing element cossetting them and pandering to them by making excuses and blaming everyone except the thugs themselves, who lets face it have CHOSEN to behave in the most disgusting and vile manner.
Let's get real here - there is no reasonable excuse for this outrageous conduct in our society.
Dread - x
I do agree with Kent Detective's views.
People are given "Council" houses, why don't they keep their area's clean and tidy, graffiti, litter, broken windows, shops boarded up, etc,. they are the ones who decide to live like pigs in S***. "Deprived" they want to be grateful and look after what they have been given, they are the ones that bleat about their living conditions. As for no jobs, most of them would be unemployable, they waste their "dole" (which we are paying for" on drink and drugs.
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These people are mindless thugs and should be treated as such, without the left wing element cossetting them and pandering to them by making excuses and blaming everyone except the thugs themselves, who lets face it have CHOSEN to behave in the most disgusting and vile manner.
Let's get real here - there is no reasonable excuse for this outrageous conduct in our society.
People are given "Council" houses, why don't they keep their area's clean and tidy, graffiti, litter, broken windows, shops boarded up, etc,. they are the ones who decide to live like pigs in S***. "Deprived" they want to be grateful and look after what they have been given, they are the ones that bleat about their living conditions. As for no jobs, most of them would be unemployable, they waste their "dole" (which we are paying for" on drink and drugs.
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These people are mindless thugs and should be treated as such, without the left wing element cossetting them and pandering to them by making excuses and blaming everyone except the thugs themselves, who lets face it have CHOSEN to behave in the most disgusting and vile manner.
Let's get real here - there is no reasonable excuse for this outrageous conduct in our society.
You, now, are making huge generalisations about their lifestyles. I'm sure many of them would love to get out of the ghettos they are in, but it's not as easy as some here would make out. And as for bleating about their living conditions ... their landlord is responsible for the upkeep of the property, and some of it I saw in the past is frankly way beyond repair and not fit to live in due to damp and mould. So please tell me how someone on the dole who cant get a job and according to you spends all their money on dope and booze, is going to be able to put that right?????? It's the government that should, and I can tell you they are just not interested
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I agree regarding the rioters. I was fuming when I watched it on TV and totally confused as to why it was happening. My point was that the inference was that it was all black immigrants
Given council houses? No ... they have to pay rent for them just like any other renters. And the powers that be tend to try and put all "problem" families together ... so what do they expect? Peace and harmony?
You, now, are making huge generalisations about their lifestyles. I'm sure many of them would love to get out of the ghettos they are in, but it's not as easy as some here would make out. And as for bleating about their living conditions ... their landlord is responsible for the upkeep of the property, and some of it I saw in the past is frankly way beyond repair and not fit to live in due to damp and mould. So please tell me how someone on the dole who cant get a job and according to you spends all their money on dope and booze, is going to be able to put that right?????? It's the government that should, and I can tell you they are just not interested
Given council houses? No ... they have to pay rent for them just like any other renters. And the powers that be tend to try and put all "problem" families together ... so what do they expect? Peace and harmony?
You, now, are making huge generalisations about their lifestyles. I'm sure many of them would love to get out of the ghettos they are in, but it's not as easy as some here would make out. And as for bleating about their living conditions ... their landlord is responsible for the upkeep of the property, and some of it I saw in the past is frankly way beyond repair and not fit to live in due to damp and mould. So please tell me how someone on the dole who cant get a job and according to you spends all their money on dope and booze, is going to be able to put that right?????? It's the government that should, and I can tell you they are just not interested
#64
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France, Spain, Italy (where i now live, it used to be Spain), yes is flooded with them, but they must earn, no handouts, benefits, medical, housing etc etc. Why are the camps set up in France with 1000s of Immigrants waiting to get into the UK???.
#67

I dont know if it's a while since you've been here, but you dont have to go too far to find beggars. Yes, you can claim benefits here, but its limited and you have to have worked on the system. I dont know about France tbh.
I guess you have the figures for all of them living on benefits, do you?
Thats the trouble when people start throwing all this around, they actually dont really know.... it's just opinions based on what they think. Like people saying you can just march into the UK and start claiming everything. It's simply not the case. I'm sure there are people that do, for various reasons, but it is not the general case any more. If I could find it I would get the official piece on it that I read some time back, but afraid I aint got the time at the moment
Show me the official figures then of all the Somalis that you say are living on benefits. How do you know this?

PS .... Spain is instigating free health care for all at the moment .... if it works, who knows!
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[QUOTE=Mitzyboy;9558262]Why pick on the Somalis now 
I dont know if it's a while since you've been here, but you dont have to go too far to find beggars. Yes, you can claim benefits here, but its limited and you have to have worked on the system. I dont know about France tbh.
I guess you have the figures for all of them living on benefits, do you?
Thats the trouble when people start throwing all this around, they actually dont really know.... it's just opinions based on what they think. Like people saying you can just march into the UK and start claiming everything. It's simply not the case. I'm sure there are people that do, for various reasons, but it is not the general case any more. If I could find it I would get the official piece on it that I read some time back, but afraid I aint got the time at the moment
Show me the official figures then of all the Somalis that you say are living on benefits. How do you know this?
PS .... Spain is instigating free health care for all at the moment .... if it works, who knows


Even how home grown blacks are afraid of these Somalis, if you want figures i cant be arsed getting them, i just live and have lived in the real world.

I dont know if it's a while since you've been here, but you dont have to go too far to find beggars. Yes, you can claim benefits here, but its limited and you have to have worked on the system. I dont know about France tbh.
I guess you have the figures for all of them living on benefits, do you?
Thats the trouble when people start throwing all this around, they actually dont really know.... it's just opinions based on what they think. Like people saying you can just march into the UK and start claiming everything. It's simply not the case. I'm sure there are people that do, for various reasons, but it is not the general case any more. If I could find it I would get the official piece on it that I read some time back, but afraid I aint got the time at the moment
Show me the official figures then of all the Somalis that you say are living on benefits. How do you know this?

PS .... Spain is instigating free health care for all at the moment .... if it works, who knows


Even how home grown blacks are afraid of these Somalis, if you want figures i cant be arsed getting them, i just live and have lived in the real world.
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Why pick on the Somalis now 
I dont know if it's a while since you've been here, but you dont have to go too far to find beggars. Yes, you can claim benefits here, but its limited and you have to have worked on the system. I dont know about France tbh.
I guess you have the figures for all of them living on benefits, do you?
Thats the trouble when people start throwing all this around, they actually dont really know.... it's just opinions based on what they think. Like people saying you can just march into the UK and start claiming everything. It's simply not the case. I'm sure there are people that do, for various reasons, but it is not the general case any more. If I could find it I would get the official piece on it that I read some time back, but afraid I aint got the time at the moment
Show me the official figures then of all the Somalis that you say are living on benefits. How do you know this?
PS .... Spain is instigating free health care for all at the moment .... if it works, who knows!

I dont know if it's a while since you've been here, but you dont have to go too far to find beggars. Yes, you can claim benefits here, but its limited and you have to have worked on the system. I dont know about France tbh.
I guess you have the figures for all of them living on benefits, do you?
Thats the trouble when people start throwing all this around, they actually dont really know.... it's just opinions based on what they think. Like people saying you can just march into the UK and start claiming everything. It's simply not the case. I'm sure there are people that do, for various reasons, but it is not the general case any more. If I could find it I would get the official piece on it that I read some time back, but afraid I aint got the time at the moment
Show me the official figures then of all the Somalis that you say are living on benefits. How do you know this?

PS .... Spain is instigating free health care for all at the moment .... if it works, who knows!
Actually a Somali TV reporter has expressed worry about the lawlessness of some Somali young people and quite a number who are here illegally.
While you are on line Mitzy could I ask your view of the agreement of Moderator Noni with the view that UK should be "White Christian Only".
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Im still half in and half out of Spain, and yes i see the Immigrants going through the rubbish bins as not the handouts the UK has???, argue all you want this is a fact.
Why are the border crossings btween France and the UK full of Immigrants waiting to get into the UK???.
Do you think its because the UK give them benefits, housing, money, medical???.
If you want i can tell you a lovely story about a Goan family living in the UK???, A life on benefits.
Say the word and i will tell you the story.
No i dont have proof, you will need to take my word on it??.


Why are the border crossings btween France and the UK full of Immigrants waiting to get into the UK???.
Do you think its because the UK give them benefits, housing, money, medical???.
If you want i can tell you a lovely story about a Goan family living in the UK???, A life on benefits.
Say the word and i will tell you the story.
No i dont have proof, you will need to take my word on it??.


#71
NO I don't, but I agree with 99% of what Detective said, your remarks are very unfair, and just taking one point only. Just read his posts, and look passed that remark. You can't just pick and choose parts.
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Actually a Somali TV reporter has expressed worry about the lawlessness of some Somali young people and quite a number who are here illegally.
While you are on line Mitzy could I ask your view of the agreement of Moderator Noni with the view that UK should be "White Christian Only".
While you are on line Mitzy could I ask your view of the agreement of Moderator Noni with the view that UK should be "White Christian Only".
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It take all sorts, as long as they are not living on benefits
#74
I agree regarding the rioters. I was fuming when I watched it on TV and totally confused as to why it was happening. My point was that the inference was that it was all black immigrants
Given council houses? No ... they have to pay rent for them just like any other renters. And the powers that be tend to try and put all "problem" families together ... so what do they expect? Peace and harmony?
You, now, are making huge generalisations about their lifestyles. I'm sure many of them would love to get out of the ghettos they are in, but it's not as easy as some here would make out. And as for bleating about their living conditions ... their landlord is responsible for the upkeep of the property, and some of it I saw in the past is frankly way beyond repair and not fit to live in due to damp and mould. So please tell me how someone on the dole who cant get a job and according to you spends all their money on dope and booze, is going to be able to put that right?????? It's the government that should, and I can tell you they are just not interested
Given council houses? No ... they have to pay rent for them just like any other renters. And the powers that be tend to try and put all "problem" families together ... so what do they expect? Peace and harmony?
You, now, are making huge generalisations about their lifestyles. I'm sure many of them would love to get out of the ghettos they are in, but it's not as easy as some here would make out. And as for bleating about their living conditions ... their landlord is responsible for the upkeep of the property, and some of it I saw in the past is frankly way beyond repair and not fit to live in due to damp and mould. So please tell me how someone on the dole who cant get a job and according to you spends all their money on dope and booze, is going to be able to put that right?????? It's the government that should, and I can tell you they are just not interested
You should also go and see what the state of properties are left in after people have the bailiffs in for none payment of rent.
Now back to the rioting.
Do you believe they should be sent to the army?
Do you think Social Workers/Probation Officers are doing their job properly
#75
This is exactly what I mean - don't pick on a small part you don't like, look at the whole picture, and have your say. I too hope Kent D comes back to liven up the place.



