As you have mentioned me I will reply, although I agree with some of what posters above have said, I agree absolutely with Shasha regarding the attitude of Kent Detective. Also his comments regarding Darcus Howe (who I do not admire) were incorrect. Will such contempt for all 'foreigners' help the situation?

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Thanks for your kind words of support Johnny5.

As I thought, my comments would probably bring a few handwringing liberal's out of the closet. These black apologists know next to nothing of the subject matter. These people are the ones who vote labour/condem and are responsible for creating this multi-cultural mess...

I'd add that 2 of my very best friends are black and that last week I gave a not inconsiderable amount of money to Oxfam for East African famine (which really shouldn't be happening in the 21st Century).

In 23 years frontline policing I never treated anyone differently based upon their race creed or religion. How dare anyone accuse me to the contrary. I was awarded the British Empire Medal (BEM) in 1991.

I'm happy to live with ANY person of ANY origin providing that person lives according to MY culture and doesn't commit criminal offences. But as soon as they do commit an unlawful act or become a drain on our resources, they should be deported without further ado. This rule should be applied to ALL persons whose parents were born outside the UK. Only the decent law abiding ones would remain. White Christians from the USA, Canada, NZ, Australia, South Africa (our old friends) should have the absolute right of abode in the UK without any impediment whatsoever.

If we ever need more workers (immigrants) (which we don't), these should be sourced from Christian, White North European countries where the culture is similar to our own. Within one generation their children will easily melt into the fabric of the country.

Multi-Cuturalism doesn't work.

The White criminals and trash are OUR responsibility the foreign ones are NOT.

I feel I have a right to my opinions without interferance from Tony Blair's "Thought Police".

I'm no longer a serving officer and therefore I no longer have to tow the official line. That's called freedom and democracy you know...

First of all lets deal with that DARCUS HOWE chap who incidently has 5 criminal convictions for Public Order/Riot offences -

Trinidad and Tobago-born Howe said the wanton destruction of Britain witnessed in the last two days was not a riot but an ‘insurrection’.

Howe is just one of many ‘black representatives’ who has been wheeled out by the anti-white mass media since the riots began in order to disseminate platitudes about ‘police racism’ and to play down the blatantly obvious fact that the vast majority of the rioters are black. But unfortunately for the BBC, this propaganda exercise did not go to plan.

Howe said: ‘They have been stopping and searching young blacks for no reason at all. I have a grandson; he’s an angel.’ In fact his grandson also has criminal convictions for robbery!

When the interviewer put it to Mr Howe that any alleged actions by the police were not justification for mass rioting, he replied, ‘Where were you in 1981 in Brixton?

‘I don’t call it rioting. I call it an insurrection of the masses of the people. It is happening in Syria, it is happening in Clapham, it has happening in Liverpool, it is happening in Port of Spain, Trinidad.’

He then angrily told the interviewer to ‘have some respect for an old West Indian negro’ and to stop accusing him of being a rioter. He uttered an unintelligible insult, and the interview was promptly cut short, to much embarrassment in the pro-multicultural newsroom.

In the 1970s, Howe was a member of the British Black Panther Movement. He was arrested for riot, affray and assault and imprisoned for three months for assaulting a police officer, yet he has been rewarded by British TV stations with a lucrative career in broadcasting.

Have a look at the BBC interview yourself and then make your mind up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biJgILxGK0o

CHECK MATE!

Today the news is full with politicians having their photo's taken with hoardes of Black community leaders. They are running scared and are starting to realise just what they have done to the country.

Huge sums of hard earned taxpayers money will now to poured into the ethnic "communities" by our political masters. I guess that's one way of solving Black unemployment....lol

I forcee more gang warfare, more riots and more killings on the streets of the UK. Watch this space....

The race of the rioters has been treated by the media in a sensitive way so as not to provoke any further racial hatred. But this is worth reading...http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1731548

Rest in Peace -

Richard Manningham-Bowes
Shahzad Hussain
Harry Hussain
Musaver Ali

All four men murdered in cold blood by BLACK rioters trying protect property and life.

Just to clarify my points on Darcus Howe (I am old enough to remember hime in his youth) I myself always thought him incoherent and without logic. He lives in Brixton and started his journalistic 'career' during the Thatcher Government (at a time of great unemployment), not new labour.
He is now ill and aging very rapidly. Why did they 'wheel him out' probably because they knew he would be controversial. He was dealt with more sensibly by Edwina Curry on News Night when he made the silly remark that she "did not understand racial prejudice" (she is Jewish!!). He is certainly not a good role model for the 'black community'.

As an afterthought 'what is meant by 'black community'? Those so described come from many different countries and many different backgrounds.

I'd say "Black Community" in this instance refers to negroids of African origin to include West Indians (who were (disgracefully) forcefully taken there from Africa). Many of whom (including my friends Sam and Hughe) I freely acknowledge are decent valuable law abiding members of society. But a substantial proportion (some would say over half) of same are most definetely not. Just look at their own countries.....Some of the poorest, least developed, dangerous and most violent places on earth. Places where a white man would never be welcomed or survive for very long. To a lesser extent The same rule applies for other races.

The USA has a huge problem with it's own Black community.

It isn't racist to talk about these problems you know....

Many scientists have concluded that some races have a much higher propensity for violence than others. Shocking but TRUE. This bears out my own experience.

I hope you do not think I am picking on you Octata but you did hold up Canada as a multicultural society where riots did not happen.
this is a quote from 'the student room' 1. 'The triggering incident happened in a town with a large black community, just as in Vancouver (a town which is mainly white), when mainly white people rioted because a hockey team lost a match. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13788491.' Canada is not immune to rioting.
No one said that it was only ethnic types rioting, just that they were predominantly of ethnic origin and the problem is not that these people or their parents have come to live in the UK but that they brought the worst parts of their culture with them.

100% accurate and correct.

Someone kindly pointed out that this is a Goa sub-forum where Indian's often read threads.

It's interesting to see that the vast majority of shop owners effected by the riots in London, Salford and Birmingham are INDIAN businessman. The Indian community in the UK is on the whole law abiding and respectful of our culture. The problems here seem to stem from Black African's and Pakistani Muslims. It's a great shame that the law abiding respectful, hardworking, industrious Indian's have been picked on like this...

Well ...... having spent most of life in Birmingham and the West Midlands and having mixed quite often with Africans, Pakistanis & Indians in playing competition pool, I can tell you that they were all a damned site more welcoming and generous than our white UK citizens.

I do think you are making a huge generalisation which, to be fair, is going to be upsetting for any members of the groups you describe (and you had to mention "muslims") and will be construed as verging on racist. Maybe it is best left here, eh?

It had crossed your mind I assume that some of these peoples families have been here since the fifties and are third or fourth generation British citizens?

I have no problem with anyone who wants to live and work in this country and there are many immigrants of all colours and creeds who do. I do have a problem with those who take every handout they can and then steal, commit arson and murder and use the excuse that they have had a hard life. I grew up, like many others poor and on a council estate but I worked hard at school and did a Saturday job for spending money and afterwards when working, because my parents could not afford for me to stay on at school to take A levels, going to night classes to get myself qualifications. I have never claimed a penny in benefits or social security except my state pension which I have paid for over the years in National Insurance.
It is not the 'state' that has let these people down it is themselves and their parents, education is there but they choose not to apply themselves to it then when they can not pay for what they want think they have the right to take it from those who have worked for it.

I agree with the sentiment, but I say again, they are not choosing to live and work in this country .... they were born here and are UK citizens.

There are plenty of white british citizens doing exactly the same as you describe. In fact there are people living in Spain claiming benefits that they a\re not entitled to. But we single out ethnic minorities?

Well I for one totally agree with Mitzyboys comments, and am fed up with a typical police attitude and racist rantings of Kent detective.

Yes I totally agree that the yobs who used the excuse of a protest to riot were wrong. Yes the thugs and yobs who used the excuse of a riot to loot and cause arson were wrong. Yes I felt grateful for the police to attempt to control the wanton violence. But it was not blacks alone, it was not asians alone, it was not whites alone.

It was a small section of disaffected people who saw an opportunity to cause mayhem and "get sumfing for nufing" and show their total contempt for law and order and by definition the police. After all our mp's have been doing it for years so why shouldn't they. The bankers and city have been pillaging this country and the tax payers and then when it goes wrong the 'Guverment sorts it out'. The Government spends too much money to buy votes and just adds that on to borrowing for our next generation to pay for. The police have been pandering to the press and accepting favours (resulting in the top two officers in the met having to resign).

There is a large proportion of the UK population who are totally p****d off with the police. So when are the police going to wake up to that FACT.. These riots obviously weren't a wake up call. As a policeman who are the easiest people to catch and earn your bonus points?

I'll give you a clue----The motorist, the householder, the generally law abiding citizen, who cannot hide behind a hoodie and doesn't go around in gangs. You (see - I've separated Law enforcement from the public) will use your hi-tech cameras to prosecute people for speeding at 35mph in a 30mph zone at 2am in the morning. You will impose 40mph limits on a motorway (for "Roadworks") for 6 months at a time, 24 hours a day when you can drive past for 2 to 3 miles and not see one single person working. It is against the law to own a vehicle without tax AND insurance (even if you don't use it and it is parked on your drive) unless you declare same to the DVLA - what crap. Don't pay your council tax because you can't afford it - just try. I could go on and on about petty little things which you can get hit by .

In this week of riots and claims that there weren't enough police etc. etc. I was pulled up tonight for a really serious offence. Was it for assault, pushing drugs, rioting, looting, burglary? Don't be silly that might involve real policing.

No this was for the heinous crime of having two numbers of my car's number plate 7mm apart rather than the legal 11mm. The number plate has been on the car for 8 years and has sailed through 7 MOT's.

But it's good to know that the f***ing plod are looking out for the real criminals isn't it?

I may have mixed up police with law and enforcement but they are part and parcel of the same thing. The police are allowed to police because the general public allows them to and consent to being policed. Once the respect for law enforcement, the police and our politicians goes then the result is anarchy.