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kernowpisky Jun 27th 2011 11:21 pm

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Originally Posted by noni (Post 9461182)
Hunt for the 'Burka Bandit': Man armed with knife and umbrella dressed as Muslim woman to rob travel agents

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1QXD7wRC9

What are your views on the burka?

At least the French got something right...

noni Jun 28th 2011 12:31 am

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Originally Posted by kernowpisky (Post 9462095)
At least the French got something right...

I agree with you there, I am totally against the Burka as only God know what is underneath it. Man, woman, gun, bomb. They give me the creeps.

Not happy with the French either taking 86,000 Euro's out of my, and each member of the families inheritance before all the properties and cars :curse: :curse: :curse: :angry_smile: are sold.
such is life.

oktata Jun 28th 2011 11:23 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9461182)
Hunt for the 'Burka Bandit': Man armed with knife and umbrella dressed as Muslim woman to rob travel agents

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1QXD7wRC9

What are your views on the burka?

since they are being used for this purpose noni i say Ban em !!
enough political correctness already - the french certainly have it right. i think multi culturism is all about political correctness and allows for any and everything including medevial nonsense like burkas - countries like the uk / canada / us should make it very clear that if you want in, be prepared to drop your nonsense and adopt our ways or stay where you are. burkas, other than being a security risk are an insult to women - shame on the men and societies who force their women to wear burkas - keeping religion aside for a moment is it natural to completely hide a face and body - is there any other species in the world that does something so ridiculous ?? noni if this is digressing too much from the in todays newspapers - please move it to which ever thread you think appropriate.

Bipat Jun 28th 2011 6:55 pm

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Originally Posted by oktata (Post 9463569)
since they are being used for this purpose noni i say Ban em !!
enough political correctness already - the french certainly have it right. i think multi culturism is all about political correctness and allows for any and everything including medevial nonsense like burkas - countries like the uk / canada / us should make it very clear that if you want in, be prepared to drop your nonsense and adopt our ways or stay where you are. burkas, other than being a security risk are an insult to women - shame on the men and societies who force their women to wear burkas - keeping religion aside for a moment is it natural to completely hide a face and body - is there any other species in the world that does something so ridiculous ?? noni if this is digressing too much from the in todays newspapers - please move it to which ever thread you think appropriate.


Isn't the real issue here the covering of the face and security. Many strict religious groups have rules about body covering eg. Catholic Christians and Orthodox Jewish people (all these rules meant to subjugate women).
In my opinion banks, airports, shops have the right to refuse entry if the face is covered, just as helmets are refused in petrol station pay areas or 'hoodies' in pubs.
The following link is not relevant to 'todays' newspaper as it is 5 years old, but it is an interesting article by a journalist and very relevant as a Moslem women's take on the 'niqab' more common than the 'burqa' in the UK.
(and before you dismiss without reading; she is not pro-burka'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006...ender.religion

johnny five Jun 28th 2011 7:20 pm

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ons-India.html

What vile people they are.

Still, at least it has the potential to reduce the number of burkhas around?

Bipat Jun 28th 2011 7:41 pm

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[QUOTE=johnny five;9464182]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ons-India.html

What vile people they are.

Still, at least it has the potential to reduce the number of burkhas around?[/QUOTE]

If this is true J5 it is no joke and the 300 little girls alleged to have had operations in Indore without medical reason have been violated beyond belief.
Operations to correct abnormal genitalia are sometimes necessary and these ops. are done in specialist units so at least an investigation to get at the truth is important.

noni Jun 28th 2011 8:29 pm

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9464148)
Isn't the real issue here the covering of the face and security. Many strict religious groups have rules about body covering eg. Catholic Christians and Orthodox Jewish people (all these rules meant to subjugate women).
In my opinion banks, airports, shops have the right to refuse entry if the face is covered, just as helmets are refused in petrol station pay areas or 'hoodies' in pubs.
The following link is not relevant to 'todays' newspaper as it is 5 years old, but it is an interesting article by a journalist and very relevant as a Moslem women's take on the 'niqab' more common than the 'burqa' in the UK.
(and before you dismiss without reading; she is not pro-burka'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006...ender.religion

Interesting article, I found this at the bottom of the article.
http://www.modestlyactive.com/ wonder if we will see this on our beaches.:rofl:

Wearing the full burka and veil - you must admit they look like black letterboxes! It is the veil which should be banned creepy.:ohmy:

noni Jun 28th 2011 8:33 pm

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Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 9464182)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ons-India.html

What vile people they are.

Still, at least it has the potential to reduce the number of burkhas around?

Read this article, absolutely disgusting. But like everything else in India, if you have the money you can bribe anybody to do what you want. Poor little girls

noni Jun 28th 2011 8:45 pm

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The joke of 'secure Britain': Vile banned militant extremist strolls through Heathrow immigration as 200 Somalian criminals are allowed to stay due to human rights
Free to walk the streets, asylum seeker thieves and drug dealers :thumbdown::thumbdown:


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1QeXJEzdl

Bipat Jun 28th 2011 9:00 pm

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Originally Posted by noni (Post 9464298)
Interesting article, I found this at the bottom of the article.
http://www.modestlyactive.com/ wonder if we will see this on our beaches.:rofl:

Wearing the full burka and veil - you must admit they look like black letterboxes! It is the veil which should be banned creepy.:ohmy:

Nigella Lawson was photographed wearing one of these outfits on a beach
(I think it was in Australia) and she is not religious!!
As to the niqab (the one with the eyeslit) I always think if you can see a woman's eyes you can tell a lot about her and therefore not 'creepy'.
I agree that this is not possible from a distance so for security reasons as I said faces should be clearly visible in airports, banks etc.

PS I remember as a child being terrified of nuns in full habit, but they are rarely seen nowadays.
I wonder if some young Moslem women are taking to
the niqab as a rebellion against all the publicity against it, certainly where I live there is a very moderate Moslem community; and it is the teenagers who are taking to wearing full covering.

a_f_d Jun 28th 2011 9:01 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9461182)
Hunt for the 'Burka Bandit': Man armed with knife and umbrella dressed as Muslim woman to rob travel agents

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1QXD7wRC9

What are your views on the burka?

Interesting that only the Daily Mail and The Telegraph ran this two year old story.
What do I think of the burqa? I don't think anyone should be coerced into wearing one, I don't think anyone should be coerced into not wearing one (which is pretty much what I think about e.g. superman outfits).
As regards crime prevention I think you'd have a lot more effect by banning transit vans!

AndyD 8-)#

Bipat Jun 28th 2011 9:07 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 9464336)
The joke of 'secure Britain': Vile banned militant extremist strolls through Heathrow immigration as 200 Somalian criminals are allowed to stay due to human rights
Free to walk the streets, asylum seeker thieves and drug dealers :thumbdown::thumbdown:


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1QeXJEzdl

It is the Strasbourg court yet again. This is where reforms are urgently needed.

kernowpisky Jun 29th 2011 4:21 am

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Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9464360)
Nigella Lawson was photographed wearing one of these outfits on a beach
(I think it was in Australia) and she is not religious!!
As to the niqab (the one with the eyeslit) I always think if you can see a woman's eyes you can tell a lot about her and therefore not 'creepy'.
I agree that this is not possible from a distance so for security reasons as I said faces should be clearly visible in airports, banks etc.

PS I remember as a child being terrified of nuns in full habit, but they are rarely seen nowadays.
I wonder if some young Moslem women are taking to
the niqab as a rebellion against all the publicity against it, certainly where I live there is a very moderate Moslem community; and it is the teenagers who are taking to wearing full covering.

i saw her pic, dont think she was wearing any sort of veil, but did have on some monstrosity of a bathing suit. Shame really as she comes across as a sexy lady on TV, on the beach like some ashamed inhibitive person. I think personally she was trying to hide her figure more than anything, shame she doesnt celebrate it.:)

Heidigirl Jun 29th 2011 5:25 am

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Originally Posted by kernowpisky (Post 9465090)
i saw her pic, dont think she was wearing any sort of veil, but did have on some monstrosity of a bathing suit. Shame really as she comes across as a sexy lady on TV, on the beach like some ashamed inhibitive person. I think personally she was trying to hide her figure more than anything, shame she doesnt celebrate it.:)

My husband hates cookery shows but for some reason doesn't mind when Nigella is on :) I do think she is gorgeous myself though, and I think she is more than happy with her figure (she once said that she's at an age where she can't lose weight or her skin doesn't fit her!)......I think she wore the Burkini as she knew the papz would slaughter her for her figure, as she's not a size zero.

Honey Bee Jun 29th 2011 6:37 am

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Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 9464362)
Interesting that only the Daily Mail and The Telegraph ran this two year old story.
What do I think of the burqa? I don't think anyone should be coerced into wearing one, I don't think anyone should be coerced into not wearing one (which is pretty much what I think about e.g. superman outfits).
As regards crime prevention I think you'd have a lot more effect by banning transit vans!

AndyD 8-)#

What do I think of the Burqa! Totally unacceptable wearing the veil . Safety for UK citizens is my major concern. Most of our terrorist activities are caused by Muslims. So what are we expected to believe in them.


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